India imposed war on Pak by constructing illegal dams: Saeed

[sab]

I think most of the people are not reading or listening Hafiz Saeed's words carefully. At the start of February he started to appear in media after a remaining low-profile for months. His first big show was his speech on Kashmir Day in Lahore, the next was his exclusive interview to Al Jazeera English (Few Days before Indo Pak Dialogue) and then (After the dialogue) he gave interview to Express News. The last one is his speech on Sunday March 07, 2010 which we are discussing right now.

I see a considerable shift in his stance towards dialogue and peace between the two countries. We can see that he is very much saying same things which our foreign office says. He has not threatened India for war or Jihad in any of his publich appearances in this one and half month period. Then why people are accusing him for what he has not said.

If you read todays story then you will find that he is not threatening for war, instead he is telling the Pakistani nation about the war India is imposing on Pakistan.

Actually Hafiz Saeed is exposing India by talking for peace and dialogue and India just wants that Hafiz Saeed should always speak for Jihad and War so that India can utilize his statements for propaganda.

I will again request all respected readers that please read his statements once again and you will find that there is no difference between his point of view and the standing of government of Pakistna.

I think Hafiz Saeed wants peace by resolving Kashmir issue but India does not want peace in the region.

Oye...peace talk ...my foot....keep your observation with you. Who is he to talk about peace. Is he official spoke person of Pakistan? He is the leader of an organisation banned by your own government. About Him only one thing interests us-"when he is getting hanged?????"

 

[muntazir]

Hello ... before you rant more ... Let me do a quick recap of whr India stands.

No doubt in India's mind that HS was behind the Mumbai episode. Evidence of HS being a part of the planning in terms of admission from Kasab proves beyond doubt. Pakistan cannot take Kasab's admission /confession as proof but can for sure investigate independently and make their findings public. However, dossiers which may be information provided by India is thrown out as literature.

What does Pakistan expect India to provide ? Video tapes of Kasab getting trained under the supervision of HS? Unfortunately we don't have them but what India has provided is the location where the training took place in Pakistan. Is it difficult to find out the occupiersof the house in the known period of time? The people who were involved in the training with the trainers will have something common with the people under trial. Is it not possible for a capable police force in Pakistan to get to the bottom of it? It is another matter if Pakistan does not want to. How about identifying the VoIP used by the handlers that leads to Pakistan. Is this not information that can be worked on and sufficient proof generated? This is sufficient information for GoP to take the investigation forward and nail the culprits.

Instead of doing this Pakistan expects India to provide material evidence when nothing of that sort exists as this mission was planned in foreign land. It is unfortunate that a terrorist like HS is getting media attention and his opinion is televised and brought to the drawing rooms of general public. A red corner notice was issued against HS and this was of no use as Pakistan judiciary thinks the man who sowed the seeds of JuD and LeT is a noble man. If given a choice, we should give him the a medal of honour given his social work.

About your statement I have marked in bold. That is exactly what concerns me. When the words of a terrorist matches with those of a democratic government, it is a cause for concern.

Ramu I think our foreign secretary Salman Bashir was not wrong when he said that Indian 'evidences' against Hafiz Saeed is mere 'Literature'. You are echoing same mentality. Ajmal Kasab has retracted from his statement and said that your police forced him for his confession. But you are not ready to mention is retraction because you don’t follow logic. You just follow your desires and want everyone to do what you want.

Pakistan has investigated the case more than everyone’s expectation in Pakistan. Our FIA arrested top commanders of Lashkar-e-Taiba and revealed lots of things. This is first time in the history of Lashkar-e-Taiba that its top commanders are being tried in anti terror court in Pakistan. During this investigation Pakistani investigators could not find any proofs of Hafiz Saeed’s involvement but you the followers of desires and wishes just want to hang him because he speaks against Indian hegemony in the region.

In short Pakistan has investigated thoroughly but could not find anything against him so asked you to provide any evidence which can stand in a court of law but you just present his media statements and then blame Pakistan.

As far as VoIP recordings are concerned even India has not blamed Hafiz Saeed for handling the attack and there is no mention of his voice in VoIP recordings. His voice is known by everyone so you can compare it with recording provided by FBI to your government.

No doubt Hafiz Saeed is anti India personality but who is not anti India here? Until you accept our Pakistan as a reality and free Kashmir you will face same kind of people in every corner of Pakistan.

 

[abdul1]

I think hafiz sayeed sahab is becoming the official spokes person of what exactly Kashmir problem is about water. When Pakistan government is not able to prove any thing wrong done by our country over water front so they are trying to use him to start the war hysteria so Pakistani people don't think about real issues at hand mainly the problem between Sindh and Punjab as Sindh says Punjab steals water so show india bad problem solved

 

[AHMED85]

well every thing is depend on time and space.........
if India want peace in Ashia than he will take fair steps with Pakistan otherwise any situation will be created by both countrys
but India find great loss ........so think some ration for peoples for both sides.....

 

[kumar_V1.0]

Is he an extra constitutional authority to decide on these dams legality.

Why dont he or any one files one public interest litigation in pakistan supreme court to ask for these dams legality and let them decide. and if Pakistan Govt think they are illegal then go to international arbitrage agency.

But before that no ranting and terrorism please.

 

[AHMED85]

Oye...peace talk ...my foot....keep your observation with you. Who is he to talk about peace. Is he official spoke person of Pakistan? He is the leader of an organisation banned by your own government. About Him only one thing interests us-"when he is getting hanged?????"

please cool down man now see what happen silently
Do best Get best

 

[lhuang]

please cool down man now see what happen silently
Do best Get best

What he is trying to say is that this guy is a terrorist recognised by Pakistani Government and so he's wondering why everyone pays so much attention to a terrorist.

 

[AHMED85]

Is he an extra constitutional authority to decide on these dams legality.

Why dont he or any one files one public interest litigation in pakistan supreme court to ask for these dams legality and let them decide. and if Pakistan Govt think they are illegal then go to international arbitrage agency.

But before that no ranting and terrorism please.

As you did know that Pakistan do not support terror than why you ever have one word (terror) use for any delaying and way you use only Pakistan is one of those who have terror as you know there is some of you own spy doing great job in Pakistan and what about your RAW is he doing sell vegetables in India....

 

[Windjammer]

His tall remarks are lackluster compared to the leverage Shiv Sena enjoys in influencing India's foreign policy and sporting events.

 

[Abhiras]

His tall remarks are lackluster compared to the leverage Shiv Sena enjoys in influencing India's foreign policy and sporting events.

Shiv sena is the political party....it actually send MP to the parlaiment & nothing else.....

Though it is right wing party...& most of mumbaikar are its supporter...

BUT IT IS A REGIONAL PARTY....

SHIVSENA is nothing outside maharastra....

 

[Bang Galore]

His tall remarks are lackluster compared to the leverage Shiv Sena enjoys in influencing India's foreign policy and sporting events.

Shiv Sena could not stop a Shah Rukh Khan film from being released and you are actually suggesting they have leverage over the foreign policy of the Indian Government which is led by a party inimical to the Shiv Sena. That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think.

The more important point is that no one would be concerned about what Mr.Hafiz Saeed is saying if it was limited to just ranting like Zaid Hamid does. No one has ever asked for Zaid Hamid's arrest because he rants against India. This gentleman founded the 'banned' LeT and the internationally sanctioned JuD. We keep hearing that he's the 'Mother Theresa' of Pakistan and is only involved in charitable work. Does that line of work involve terrorist attacks. If not, why is he running around threatening war ? What kind of charity worker does that?

No one in Pakistan has ever argued that the Shiv Sena sends terrorists into Pakistan. The Shiv Sena are local goons spending most of their time threatening fellow Indians. Don't think that there is much room for comparison with Hafiz Saeed here.

 

[Windjammer]

Shiv sena is the political party....it actually send MP to the parlaiment & nothing else.....

Though it is right wing party...& most of mumbaikar are its supporter...

BUT IT IS A REGIONAL PARTY....

SHIVSENA is nothing outside maharastra....

It may well be that, but we are not exactly discussing vote count here,
Rather which individual(s) have more standing and have say over their respective governments.

 

[kumar_V1.0]

Shiv sena is the political party....it actually send MP to the parlaiment & nothing else.....

Though it is right wing party...& most of mumbaikar are its supporter...

BUT IT IS A REGIONAL PARTY....

SHIVSENA is nothing outside maharastra....

Quiz time

1. How many shiv Sena rallies have people carrying AK 47?
2. How many training facilities are there for shiv Sena millitants?
3. Does Shiv Sena comes under election commission directives as a political party?
4. Has Shiv Sena been banned by UN?
5. Has the leader of Shiv sena has UN notice?
6. How many shiv Sena activists have been caught in Pakistan doing terrorist activities?

 

[Solomon2]

I think most of the people are not reading or listening Hafiz Saeed's words carefully...I see a considerable shift in his stance towards dialogue and peace between the two countries.

Why are you interested in legitimizing a terror master? You don't believe in democracy?

 

[muntazir]

Quiz time

1. How many shiv Sena rallies have people carrying AK 47?
2. How many training facilities are there for shiv Sena millitants?
3. Does Shiv Sena comes under election commission directives as a political party?
4. Has Shiv Sena been banned by UN?
5. Has the leader of Shiv sena has UN notice?
6. How many shiv Sena activists have been caught in Pakistan doing terrorist activities?

Here are your befitting answers.
1. Someone used Shive Sena’s name just as an example otherwise you have more dangerous terrorist organizations such as Vishva Hindu Preshad, Bajrag Dal and the mother of all Hindu Terrorist organizations RSS. None of the Pakistani or Kashmiri Jihadi organization is involved in mass killings as Hindu Terrorist organizations are doing in India.
2. Here in Pakistan AK-47 is carried to combat your G-2. It does not aim at civilians but VHP processions carry Treshols and the aim is to kill civilian Muslims and Christians.
3. Training facilities for VHP in India are in hundreds and during pervious 15 years hundreds of thousands of Hindu terrorist are trained in these camps. Gujarat massacres was a just an example of Hindu terror.
4. Do VHP and RSS come under election commission directives as a political parties?
5. Your own The National Commission for Minorities (NCM) has sought a ban on Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) for their alleged involvement in communal riots. No one in Pakistan asks for a ban on Jamat-ud-Dawah. And for your information according to Lahore High Court Jamat-ud-Dawah is not a banned organization in Pakistan.
6. Let alone UN, Babri Masjid fact finding commission set up by your own government tells that Advani was involved in demolition of Babri Masjid.
7. Who is sending Surbajeet Singh and Kashmir Singh for terror in Pakistan? Definitely not Shiv Sena but your state. Then your Parliament declares that Surbajeet Singh is a hero? What does it mean? When you as a nation praise terrorists then why we should not term you a terrorist state? Remember that unlike Hafiz Saeed and Ajmal Kasab Surbajeet Singh is a convicted Terrorist and he is waiting for the death sentence.