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India fears sudden change in Bangladesh
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Despicable and ignorant post requires a reply so as to keep to the understanding of the person to whom it is being replied to.
Remember the saying..... people who live in glass house.....?
Unfortunately your post was hardly of any intellectual content. So, don't be delusional!
Indian PM makes ‘off-the-record’ Bangladesh swipe
NEW DELHI: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh claimed many Bangladeshis are “very anti-Indian”, in controversial remarks posted on his official website which were later removed for being “off the record”.
The comments, splashed in Bangladeshi newspapers on Saturday, could strain relations between the South Asian neighbours just as they have been improving.
Singh’s statements to newspaper editors in New Delhi earlier in the week come ahead of an official visit to Bangladesh by Indian foreign minister S.M. Krishna set for July 6 to 8.
Singh’s claim, posted on the prime minister’s website on Wednesday, said “we must reckon that at least 25 percent of the population of Bangladesh swear by the Jamaat-e-Islami and they are very anti-Indian”.
The Jamaat-e-Islami is Bangladesh’s largest Islamist party and was part of the four-party Islamist-allied government between 2001 and 2006.
Singh added that Jamaat-e-Islami members “are in the clutches, many times, of the ISI so the political landscape in Bangladesh can change at any time.”
India PM makes ‘off-the-record’ Bangladesh swipe | | DAWN.COM
NEW DELHI: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh claimed many Bangladeshis are “very anti-Indian”, in controversial remarks posted on his official website which were later removed for being “off the record”.
The comments, splashed in Bangladeshi newspapers on Saturday, could strain relations between the South Asian neighbours just as they have been improving.
Singh’s statements to newspaper editors in New Delhi earlier in the week come ahead of an official visit to Bangladesh by Indian foreign minister S.M. Krishna set for July 6 to 8.
Singh’s claim, posted on the prime minister’s website on Wednesday, said “we must reckon that at least 25 percent of the population of Bangladesh swear by the Jamaat-e-Islami and they are very anti-Indian”.
The Jamaat-e-Islami is Bangladesh’s largest Islamist party and was part of the four-party Islamist-allied government between 2001 and 2006.
Singh added that Jamaat-e-Islami members “are in the clutches, many times, of the ISI so the political landscape in Bangladesh can change at any time.”
India PM makes ‘off-the-record’ Bangladesh swipe | | DAWN.COM
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Manmohan's verbal bombshell
"Off -the -record" comments betray a lack of understanding of Bangladesh
The Indian Prime Minister's comments on Bangladesh come as a huge shock and surprise. Even more astonishing is the silence of our government. Its closest ally -- at the level of the PM no less -- has made a damning indictment of the political health of this country, describing it as so volatile that it could change for the worse at any moment. The Indian PM has further said that 25% of Bangladesh's population supports Jamaat-I-Islami, is "anti-Indian" and "in the clutches" of the Pakistani ISI.
The Bangladesh government has neither demanded a clarification nor protested the evaluation, displaying an attitude quite inexplicable for a sovereign government.
Dr. Manmohan Singh's statement is weak on facts and way off the mark in understanding. Data from past elections have consistently shown that support for the Jamaat and other Islamic parties has never exceeded 5-6% of the electorate. Nor are there reports of any significant ISI presence in this country. That is why it is all the more amazing that a man of Dr. Singh's stature, known for his measured words and diplomatic skills, should make such comments.
It could hardly have been a slip of words, given that he was speaking in a planned meeting with news editors and that the Indian Foreign Minister is due to visit Dhaka this week. It forces us to question whether India's image of and attitude towards Bangladesh has changed, despite the many signs of every day improvement in our bilateral relations.
This paper always stood for good and mutually beneficially relations with India and celebrated the progress that has been achieved by the Awami League government in this respect. We value the commitment -- reiterated by the Indian PM once again -- to resolve water-sharing and other outstanding issues.
The Indian Prime Minister referred to the generosity of India in providing US$1 billion credit line to Bangladesh. While this is an important contribution to our development, it must be mentioned that bulk of it is devoted to infra-structure building for transit purposes, and is tied to using Indian companies and materials.
Dr. Manmohan Singh's comments show a lack of understanding of Bangladesh. These also demonstrate a lack of confidence in the government and the stability of our political system. These have now been termed as off-the-record comments, and were not meant to be judgmental. Notwithstanding the deliberate damage control, we have to point out that there exists a serious lack of understanding on India's part about the reality in Bangladesh. There is a lot to learn from the Indian PM's remarks, even it were off-the-record; perhaps more so because they were off-the-record.
Manmohan's verbal bombshell
"Off -the -record" comments betray a lack of understanding of Bangladesh
The Indian Prime Minister's comments on Bangladesh come as a huge shock and surprise. Even more astonishing is the silence of our government. Its closest ally -- at the level of the PM no less -- has made a damning indictment of the political health of this country, describing it as so volatile that it could change for the worse at any moment. The Indian PM has further said that 25% of Bangladesh's population supports Jamaat-I-Islami, is "anti-Indian" and "in the clutches" of the Pakistani ISI.
The Bangladesh government has neither demanded a clarification nor protested the evaluation, displaying an attitude quite inexplicable for a sovereign government.
Dr. Manmohan Singh's statement is weak on facts and way off the mark in understanding. Data from past elections have consistently shown that support for the Jamaat and other Islamic parties has never exceeded 5-6% of the electorate. Nor are there reports of any significant ISI presence in this country. That is why it is all the more amazing that a man of Dr. Singh's stature, known for his measured words and diplomatic skills, should make such comments.
It could hardly have been a slip of words, given that he was speaking in a planned meeting with news editors and that the Indian Foreign Minister is due to visit Dhaka this week. It forces us to question whether India's image of and attitude towards Bangladesh has changed, despite the many signs of every day improvement in our bilateral relations.
This paper always stood for good and mutually beneficially relations with India and celebrated the progress that has been achieved by the Awami League government in this respect. We value the commitment -- reiterated by the Indian PM once again -- to resolve water-sharing and other outstanding issues.
The Indian Prime Minister referred to the generosity of India in providing US$1 billion credit line to Bangladesh. While this is an important contribution to our development, it must be mentioned that bulk of it is devoted to infra-structure building for transit purposes, and is tied to using Indian companies and materials.
Dr. Manmohan Singh's comments show a lack of understanding of Bangladesh. These also demonstrate a lack of confidence in the government and the stability of our political system. These have now been termed as off-the-record comments, and were not meant to be judgmental. Notwithstanding the deliberate damage control, we have to point out that there exists a serious lack of understanding on India's part about the reality in Bangladesh. There is a lot to learn from the Indian PM's remarks, even it were off-the-record; perhaps more so because they were off-the-record.
Manmohan's verbal bombshell
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Indian analyst contradicts Indian High Commission press release on Dr. Manmohan Singh’s comments on Bangladesh
India must help Bangladesh urgently to strengthen the democratic process in the country and help the Awami League government fight extremist and terrorist groups which threaten to convert Bangladesh into a `Taliban country`, a development which has grave consequences for India and the region as a whole. Bangladesh is one of India’s closest neighbours where it has deep strategic interests in terms of peace and stability of the region.
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DeshCalling: Indian analyst contradicts Indian High Commission press release on Dr. Singh’s comments on Bangladesh
India must help Bangladesh urgently to strengthen the democratic process in the country and help the Awami League government fight extremist and terrorist groups which threaten to convert Bangladesh into a `Taliban country`, a development which has grave consequences for India and the region as a whole. Bangladesh is one of India’s closest neighbours where it has deep strategic interests in terms of peace and stability of the region.
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DeshCalling: Indian analyst contradicts Indian High Commission press release on Dr. Singh’s comments on Bangladesh
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The Indian PM has understood the Bangladeshi environment absolutely correctly.
However, it is not correct of him to comment, off the cuff or off anything, on sensitive issues that damage bilateral relationship between India and any other country, more so a friendly country.
Instead of focussing on his homeland, he should also focus favourably on the homeland of many others in the East.
The sun rises in the East!
However, it is not correct of him to comment, off the cuff or off anything, on sensitive issues that damage bilateral relationship between India and any other country, more so a friendly country.
Instead of focussing on his homeland, he should also focus favourably on the homeland of many others in the East.
The sun rises in the East!
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Manmohan’s comments anything but naive
Many things have been said so far, in the last few days, ever since Indian prime minister, Manmohan Singh, remarked during an interaction with five print media editors in Delhi, on June 29, that ‘25 per cent of the population of the population of Bangladesh swear by the Jamaat-e-Islami and are very anti-India, and are in the clutches, many times, of the ISI’ – Pakistan Army’s intelligence wing. The comment has drawn reactions from a range of people, including members of the present government, leaders of the main opposition in parliament BNP, former Indian diplomats, the Indian High Commission’s official clarification and the Bangladesh government’s refusal to issue a statement.
Given Manmohan’s reputation as an intellectual and scholar, there is no reason, however, to treat his comments as merely an innocent remark.
The first thing to note is the timing of the comment made by the Indian premier. The Indian external affairs minister, SM Krishna is likely to visit Dhaka on July 6. The Indian Water Resources Minister Salman Khurshid is likely to visit Dhaka soon after to give final touches to a treaty on sharing the waters of River Teesta. Sonia Gandhi is expected arrive on July 25, while Manmohan himself is likely to visit Dhaka by September. Given the context, it is difficult to believe that the apparently ‘off-the-record’ comments had been mistakenly inserted in the transcripts of the meeting, as asserted by Indian High Commission in Dhaka. Instead, it would not be a stretch to presume that the comments arrived at the right time to exert an influence on the number of agreements that are likely to be signed during these visits.
An ominous note in Manmohan’s comment, ‘that Bangladesh’s political landscape can change anytime’, can hardly be interpreted as anything but a means to put pressure and create a sense of vulnerability on the government in power, in Bangladesh, prior to negotiations in which the Indian government are expected to seek a number of concessions from the Bangladesh government. Furthermore, given the Bangladesh government’s visibly shaky relations in recent months with the US government, following the Dr Yunus saga, Manmohan’s comments could serve as a double-edged sword to impress upon the US the apparent threat of fundamentalist forces in Bangladesh.
Manmohan’s comments, in the end, provide the answers for the questions he raises. If a significant part of the population the country is indeed anti-Indian, it is because of such comments and expression of intent of top officials of the Indian government, time and again, which not only cast aspersions on the ordinary millions of the country, disrespect their mandates and insult Bangladesh’s sovereignty, but also reflect a tendency to wrestle out undue concessions in negotiations, through any means. The Indian policymakers must realise that if they truly want to build friendly relations between the neighbouring countries, as indeed it should be, than it should take effective steps to resolve the numerous unresolved issues – primarily a result of Delhi’s selfish unwillingness - between the two countries and make negotiations beneficial to both sides. Meanwhile, for the present Awami League-Jatiya Party led government, elected to parliament with a three-fourths majority, it now becomes their patriotic duty, to not buckle under such pressure and wrestle out from India the best interest of the country in the days to come.
New Age | Newspaper
Many things have been said so far, in the last few days, ever since Indian prime minister, Manmohan Singh, remarked during an interaction with five print media editors in Delhi, on June 29, that ‘25 per cent of the population of the population of Bangladesh swear by the Jamaat-e-Islami and are very anti-India, and are in the clutches, many times, of the ISI’ – Pakistan Army’s intelligence wing. The comment has drawn reactions from a range of people, including members of the present government, leaders of the main opposition in parliament BNP, former Indian diplomats, the Indian High Commission’s official clarification and the Bangladesh government’s refusal to issue a statement.
Given Manmohan’s reputation as an intellectual and scholar, there is no reason, however, to treat his comments as merely an innocent remark.
The first thing to note is the timing of the comment made by the Indian premier. The Indian external affairs minister, SM Krishna is likely to visit Dhaka on July 6. The Indian Water Resources Minister Salman Khurshid is likely to visit Dhaka soon after to give final touches to a treaty on sharing the waters of River Teesta. Sonia Gandhi is expected arrive on July 25, while Manmohan himself is likely to visit Dhaka by September. Given the context, it is difficult to believe that the apparently ‘off-the-record’ comments had been mistakenly inserted in the transcripts of the meeting, as asserted by Indian High Commission in Dhaka. Instead, it would not be a stretch to presume that the comments arrived at the right time to exert an influence on the number of agreements that are likely to be signed during these visits.
An ominous note in Manmohan’s comment, ‘that Bangladesh’s political landscape can change anytime’, can hardly be interpreted as anything but a means to put pressure and create a sense of vulnerability on the government in power, in Bangladesh, prior to negotiations in which the Indian government are expected to seek a number of concessions from the Bangladesh government. Furthermore, given the Bangladesh government’s visibly shaky relations in recent months with the US government, following the Dr Yunus saga, Manmohan’s comments could serve as a double-edged sword to impress upon the US the apparent threat of fundamentalist forces in Bangladesh.
Manmohan’s comments, in the end, provide the answers for the questions he raises. If a significant part of the population the country is indeed anti-Indian, it is because of such comments and expression of intent of top officials of the Indian government, time and again, which not only cast aspersions on the ordinary millions of the country, disrespect their mandates and insult Bangladesh’s sovereignty, but also reflect a tendency to wrestle out undue concessions in negotiations, through any means. The Indian policymakers must realise that if they truly want to build friendly relations between the neighbouring countries, as indeed it should be, than it should take effective steps to resolve the numerous unresolved issues – primarily a result of Delhi’s selfish unwillingness - between the two countries and make negotiations beneficial to both sides. Meanwhile, for the present Awami League-Jatiya Party led government, elected to parliament with a three-fourths majority, it now becomes their patriotic duty, to not buckle under such pressure and wrestle out from India the best interest of the country in the days to come.
New Age | Newspaper
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Who else is playing cricket in Pakistan these days? No one.
Not even brotherly muslim Bangladesh.
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India fears little jimmy and his dog wagging the tail as well
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and also laden.period.India fears little jimmy and his dog wagging the tail as well
Is there anything that India does not fears ?
India fears playing cricket in Pakistan
India fears the referral system
India fears the mangoe trade
India fears the European goods deal
India fears SCO
India fears the JF17 Thunder
India fears the Chinese frigates to Pakistan
India fears diversion of water from China
India fears kargil
India fears LeT
India fears J10B
India fears F16 C/D
India feels unsecure about China/Pakistan combination
India fears new planes in pakistani airforce
Is there anything - that India does not fears?
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India fears little jimmy and his dog wagging the tail as well
Is there anything that India does not fears ?
India fears playing cricket in Pakistan
India fears the referral system
India fears the mangoe trade
India fears the European goods deal
India fears SCO
India fears the JF17 Thunder
India fears the Chinese frigates to Pakistan
India fears diversion of water from China
India fears kargil
India fears LeT
India fears J10B
India fears F16 C/D
India feels unsecure about China/Pakistan combination
India fears new planes in pakistani airforce
Is there anything - that India does not fears?
India fears The India Doctrine book
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India fears little jimmy and his dog wagging the tail as well
Is there anything that India does not fears ?
India fears playing cricket in Pakistan
India fears the referral system
India fears the mangoe trade
India fears the European goods deal
India fears SCO
India fears the JF17 Thunder
India fears the Chinese frigates to Pakistan
India fears diversion of water from China
India fears kargil
India fears LeT
India fears J10B
India fears F16 C/D
India feels unsecure about China/Pakistan combination
India fears new planes in pakistani airforce
Is there anything - that India does not fears?
Yes, we call it Pakistan.
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Pakistan fears none.
Not even the Drones,
Not the TTP,
nor Zardari,
nor Kiayani
Because now each one knows he is closest to God since none knows what the US or the TTP holds in store for them tomorrow.
Not even the Drones,
Not the TTP,
nor Zardari,
nor Kiayani
Because now each one knows he is closest to God since none knows what the US or the TTP holds in store for them tomorrow.
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