India fears sudden change in Bangladesh

[Zabaniyah]

2. And what do you find offensive in references to religion?

I don't find it offensive. I find Muhammad Yunus's personal life irrelevant.

 

[asad71]

I don't find it offensive. I find Muhammad Yunus's personal life irrelevant.

1.Yunus himself doesn't find this irrelevant. Read his autobiography, The Banker to the Poor, where he has stated these details himself. And a high profile person aspiring for high political position must be open about his personal details.

2. The context is BD whose state religion is Islam, and where 92% population is Muslim.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Manmohan’s remark about Bangladesh’s politics won’t go in favor of bilateral relations

Reported by: UNBconnect
Reported on: July 01, 2011 17:58 PM
Reported in: National

Dhaka, July 1 (UNB) - Former Foreign Minister M Morshed Khan on Friday said that the Indian Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh’s statement about Bangladesh‘s politics would not go in favour of bilateral relations between the two countries.

“I know Dr. Singh personally. He is not a traditional politician, rather a straight forward person. I believe he has been misguided and given wrong information by intelligence agencies or some interested quarters,” he told UNB over phone.

During an interaction with editors of five Indian newspapers in New Delhi on Wednesday, Manmohan Singh said that the political landscape in Bangladesh can change at any time.

Dr. Singh said: “We must reckon that at least 25 percent of the population of Bangladesh swear by the Jamiat-ul-Islami and they are very anti-Indian.” He said they (Jamiat) are in the clutches, many times, of the ISI. “So, the political landscape in Bangladesh can change at any time.”

In response, Morshed Khan said this statement by a personality like Manomhan Singh is a discouraging note for Bangladesh, saying that Singh’s remarks came at a very interesting time when Bangladesh parliament nullified the 5th and the 13th amendments of the Constitution.

Khan said Jamaat must be happy with this figure of 25 percent of the Bangladesh population being anti-Indian. “How does he (Dr. Singh) know all Jamaatis are anti-Indian? How did he get this figure?”

Referring to the present government’s avowed policy of not allowing any Indian insurgent groups to use the soil of Bangladesh, Morshed Khan said the past BNP government did not also allow any terrorists or insurgents to use the soil of Bangladesh and conduct terrorist activities in India.

“We had chased them in hills, valleys, rivers and roads,” he said.

Meanwhile, India's former High Commissioner in Dhaka Veena Sikri has said: “I don't think it is proper to describe people of another country in this manner.”

On Dr. Singh's assertion that a quarter of the people of Bangladesh swore by the Jamiat, she wondered where the figure had come from.

Ms. Sikri told The Hindu that one-third of the votes go to the BNP and an equal number to the Awami League. Of the remaining 33 per cent, most are floating votes that look at issues independently.

“I don't think, you can say that 25 percent are anti-Indian. Does it mean most of BNP's voters feel that way? One can't categorise in this manner just as one can't do the same with the people of Pakistan. Regimes and institutions can be characterised like this, not the people,” she said.

UNBconnect... - Manmohan

 

[Zabaniyah]

^^^Bush Jr. also believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

 

[BanglaBhoot]

^^^Bush Jr. also believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

Bush didn't need convincing by the CIA about the WMD's but it seems the Indian PM was influenced by RAW about conditions in BD.

 

[InFn-0]

Exactly, it was very surprising to see a person like Manmohan Singh make that kind of comments, which is very unusual of him. I'll agree with Morshed Khan in every word, he is a very respectable person.

Manmohan’s remark about Bangladesh’s politics won’t go in favor of bilateral relations

Reported by: UNBconnect
Reported on: July 01, 2011 17:58 PM
Reported in: National

Dhaka, July 1 (UNB) - Former Foreign Minister M Morshed Khan on Friday said that the Indian Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh’s statement about Bangladesh‘s politics would not go in favour of bilateral relations between the two countries.

“I know Dr. Singh personally. He is not a traditional politician, rather a straight forward person. I believe he has been misguided and given wrong information by intelligence agencies or some interested quarters,” he told UNB over phone.

During an interaction with editors of five Indian newspapers in New Delhi on Wednesday, Manmohan Singh said that the political landscape in Bangladesh can change at any time.

Dr. Singh said: “We must reckon that at least 25 percent of the population of Bangladesh swear by the Jamiat-ul-Islami and they are very anti-Indian.” He said they (Jamiat) are in the clutches, many times, of the ISI. “So, the political landscape in Bangladesh can change at any time.”

In response, Morshed Khan said this statement by a personality like Manomhan Singh is a discouraging note for Bangladesh, saying that Singh’s remarks came at a very interesting time when Bangladesh parliament nullified the 5th and the 13th amendments of the Constitution.

Khan said Jamaat must be happy with this figure of 25 percent of the Bangladesh population being anti-Indian. “How does he (Dr. Singh) know all Jamaatis are anti-Indian? How did he get this figure?”

Referring to the present government’s avowed policy of not allowing any Indian insurgent groups to use the soil of Bangladesh, Morshed Khan said the past BNP government did not also allow any terrorists or insurgents to use the soil of Bangladesh and conduct terrorist activities in India.

“We had chased them in hills, valleys, rivers and roads,” he said.

Meanwhile, India's former High Commissioner in Dhaka Veena Sikri has said: “I don't think it is proper to describe people of another country in this manner.”

On Dr. Singh's assertion that a quarter of the people of Bangladesh swore by the Jamiat, she wondered where the figure had come from.

Ms. Sikri told The Hindu that one-third of the votes go to the BNP and an equal number to the Awami League. Of the remaining 33 per cent, most are floating votes that look at issues independently.

“I don't think, you can say that 25 percent are anti-Indian. Does it mean most of BNP's voters feel that way? One can't categorise in this manner just as one can't do the same with the people of Pakistan. Regimes and institutions can be characterised like this, not the people,” she said.

UNBconnect... - Manmohan

 

[Zabaniyah]

Bush didn't need convincing by the CIA about the WMD's but it seems the Indian PM was influenced by RAW about conditions in BD.

Actually, Bush didn't make up the claims about Iraq having WMDs. He was influenced by faulty intelligence. I fear something similar maybe brewing in India with regards to Bangladesh. I maybe wrong though.

Exactly, it was very surprising to see a person like Manmohan Singh make that kind of comments, which is very unusual of him. I'll agree with Morshed Khan in every word, he is a very respectable person.

He was one of the best foreign ministers we have ever had.

 

[Contrarian]

Manmohan’s remark about Bangladesh’s politics won’t go in favor of bilateral relations
Referring to the present government’s avowed policy of not allowing any Indian insurgent groups to use the soil of Bangladesh, Morshed Khan said the past BNP government did not also allow any terrorists or insurgents to use the soil of Bangladesh and conduct terrorist activities in India.

“We had chased them in hills, valleys, rivers and roads,” he said.

There goes his credibility out of the window. BNP actively supported insurgency in India.

 

[Zabaniyah]

There goes his credibility out of the window. BNP actively supported insurgency in India.

Not exactly 'support' in an ideological sense. They acted as an arms dealer for the ULFA. It was a profitable business. That Babar and others are in jail now anyways.

But the BNP administration did clamp down against terrorist cells on Bangladeshi grounds. Example: Bangla Bhai.

 

[Contrarian]

Not exactly 'support' in an ideological sense. They acted as an arms dealer for the ULFA. It was a profitable business. That Babar and others are in jail now anyways.

But the BNP administration did clamp down against terrorist cells on Bangladeshi grounds. Example: Bangla Bhai.

First of all, it was not profit making, they were doing it in conjunction with ISI to destabilize India's NE.

How the hell does it matter if your supporting them in an 'ideological' sense or a profit making sense. You are still arming and aiding insurgents against India with an intent to destabilize India. That should have been treated very seriously by the GoI then and a befitting response should have been given.

Hasina has acted like a good neighbour, and has rooted out these terrorist groups. That merits that GoI also aid her - and thus you see India agree'ing to everything BD wants. It should be a very simple policy, you act against us, we act against you doubly. You help us we help you - and both nations prosper.

 

[Zabaniyah]

First of all, it was not profit making, they were doing it in conjunction with ISI to destabilize India's NE.

How the hell does it matter if your supporting them in an 'ideological' sense or a profit making sense. You are still arming and aiding insurgents against India with an intent to destabilize India. That should have been treated very seriously by the GoI then and a befitting response should have been given.

Hasina has acted like a good neighbour, and has rooted out these terrorist groups. That merits that GoI also aid her - and thus you see India agree'ing to everything BD wants. It should be a very simple policy, you act against us, we act against you doubly. You help us we help you - and both nations prosper.

And how do you know that the ISI operates in Bangladesh? You got any proof that we are working in conjunction with them? Please don't come up with vague claims and finger-pointing others.

Me? I don't support any foreign groups operating in my country. And I take that you once stated that Bangladesh doesn't even need a military You realize just how foolish you are making yourself look like?

Hasina maybe good for you lot, but not for us in a domestic sense. Us being friends don't mean our country can be used as your own backyard.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Siddique ul-Islam or Bangla Bhai was a Mujh in Afghanistan under Osama.

He was Bangladeshi terrorist[ and on return became the military commander of the Al Qaeda affiliated, the radical pseudo-Islamist organization Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh.

On August 17, 2005, JMJB, under Islam's leadership, launched a nation-wide attack by exploding 500 makeshift bombs. Along with Shaykh Abdur Rahman, Islam is alleged to have masterminded the bombing. In late 2005, a series of suicide bomb attacks rocked Bangladesh. JMJB and Jamaat-al-Mujahedin Bangladesh have claimed responsibility of these attacks.

Along with 5 other militants, Siddique ul-Islam was executed by hanging on 30 March 2007.

The Bangladesh Govt had no option but to have him nabbed, tried and hung. He was wrecking up Bangladesh itself.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Siddique ul-Islam or Bangla Bhai was a Mujh in Afghanistan under Osama.

He was Bangladeshi terrorist[ and on return became the military commander of the Al Qaeda affiliated, the radical pseudo-Islamist organization Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh.

On August 17, 2005, JMJB, under Islam's leadership, launched a nation-wide attack by exploding 500 makeshift bombs. Along with Shaykh Abdur Rahman, Islam is alleged to have masterminded the bombing. In late 2005, a series of suicide bomb attacks rocked Bangladesh. JMJB and Jamaat-al-Mujahedin Bangladesh have claimed responsibility of these attacks.

Along with 5 other militants, Siddique ul-Islam was executed by hanging on 30 March 2007.

The Bangladesh Govt had no option but to have him nabbed, tried and hung. He was wrecking up Bangladesh itself.

That happened during the BNP administration.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

That happened during the BNP administration.

True.

I am sure Bangaldeshis are not that tolerant to have 500 bombs, torture etc knocking the living hell out of the them and condone a Govt lying supine!

 

[Contrarian]

And how do you know that the ISI operates in Bangladesh? You got any proof that we are working in conjunction with them? Please don't come up with vague claims and finger-pointing others.

Please. Read. Take a clue, MMS just said it as well didnt he. You dont have to believe him, I can.

Me? I don't support any foreign groups operating in my country. And I take that you once stated that Bangladesh doesn't even need a military You realize just how foolish you are making yourself look like?

'You' meant Bangladesh. And Yes BD, does not need any military other than paramilitary. You can keep a military in the future once BD is more prosperous. It is ENTIRELY the decision of BD itself. It was simply a suggestion.

But as regards to DGFI acting against India, that does prick India, and ought to be responded with.

Hasina maybe good for you lot, but not for us in a domestic sense. Us being friends don't mean our country can be used as your own backyard.

No one is using BD as a backyard. Any govt in BD is okay as long as they maintain good relations with us and we maintain good relations with you. Again, you means BD. You help us we help you. Mutual benefit. There is nothing unilateral that BD has given us. Transit rights will earn BD money, Infra development will help BD. We also benefit and so do you, its a win win. Most people from BD on this forum dont understand the basics of economics.