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India Ethnic Northeast Minorities Suffering severe Racial Discrimination
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everybody faces discrimination in india. as a brahmin hindu I was discriminated against for my university admission and had to study overseas. will somebody please create a thread on the discrimination that the original inhabitants of india face as compared to the muslims etc
Is the goverment doing something against this?
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I know these are insurgencies in the north east of india. I think discrimination is one of the grounds.
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Yup, mouthpiece of communist thugs expert on India's discrimination.
As per Xinhua news agency, 85000 incidents of discontent and protests are reported against CCP in which 4 million people participated in 2006 which is grossly understated figure.
Don't they know their PLA has killed more chinese looking population than Indians.
Seems like CCP is beating drums for annexing arunachal pradesh.
Ask author how did hundred of thousands of Chinese looking Tibetans fled to India?
Ask author how did hundred of thousands of Chinese looking Tibetans fled to India?
They were misled by the old fool DL.
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Firstly, this is a very badly written article. Is it a translation of a chinese article?
Secondly, yes, there is discrimination against north east people in Delhi. Recently a candle light vigil was held in a residential colony to protest against it. However, it is not widespread as claimed by the article. I, although a Bengali who has lived in Delhi all my life, have a lot university friends from the north east. The same can be said for pretty much all students in DU. However, there are rotten ignorant apples in Delhi, no doubt about that. There are an embarrassment to India.
Secondly, yes, there is discrimination against north east people in Delhi. Recently a candle light vigil was held in a residential colony to protest against it. However, it is not widespread as claimed by the article. I, although a Bengali who has lived in Delhi all my life, have a lot university friends from the north east. The same can be said for pretty much all students in DU. However, there are rotten ignorant apples in Delhi, no doubt about that. There are an embarrassment to India.
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Off topic, but lets make something clear. Indian Muslims are NOT foreigners, they are Indian, they always have been. They simply converted to Islam when the Afghans and Persians invaded. They aren't 'inter racial' or the like, they're just muslim desis. (I don't speak for anyone that isn't Indian, they can be whatever they like.)
India is trying its best to remove social inequalities but don't dodge the facts and trivialize the situation. We do have a problem with discrimination, as an 'upper caste' hindu, you haven't really seen any discrimination, studying abroad? You're mocking those that suffer needlessly because of some age old fairy tale. I think its disingenuous to start a thread on 'reverse discrimination' if you can call it that.
Regards.
A quick jaunt on Google turns this up as an objective article from a fairly credible source, i.e., the CNA (Central News Agency or 中央通訊社
- from the Republic of China (i.e., Taiwan). I don't normally go to their site. But superficially, it seems to me to be a pro-KMT "mouth organ". Understandably, it is hardly pro-PRC. However, given its pro-KMT bend, it would be nominally anti-TI, pro-status-quo, and pro-"commerce".
I came across a few of their pieces on Xinjiang and they seemed balanced and nuanced.
The original article in traditional Chinese can be read here. I think it was google-translated with a wee bit of "human touch". It's not bad. But frankly, it could've been better translated.
Having established the "journalistic integrity" of the source and verified its reasonable, matter-of-fact style in the original language, I think this should now be discussed.
Casteism, racialism, colourism, reverse colourism, reverse discrimination (you know what they say "if you see a Brahmin and a cobra" in Tamil Nadu ...) are nothing new in India. Everybody should know that.
Substitute the -isms above with "regionalism", "privileged class", and "rural/city" divide, we pretty much arrive at an analogous situation in the PRC, although in all likelihood less intrinsically virulent - for in China everyone is pretty much a descendant of shudras (in the "peasant" sense of the term).
Now another "cultural" wrinkle according to the South Asian correspondent of the Globe and Mail was the ubiquitous sport of "Eve teasing" in North India - the vaunted "Hindusthan". I wasn't particularly impressed by her article btw - for it made her look unnecessarily "dainty" as it beckoned a certain stereotype from a bygone era perhaps ... But it's clear that North India is full of perverts.
The Chinese by and large have no concept of "colourism" - I wouldn't know what it was when I was in China. But those who lived in places such as India, Brazil, Europe (e.g., Italy), the Middle East, or North America should be cognizant of this "fact of life".
Now in order to properly address "colourism", IMHO a greater "honesty" is called for. I in fact hold the view that some aspects of this so-called "discrimination" is really aesthetic preference based. And it renders the whole atmosphere needlessly charged and poisonous if this "aesthetic appeal" wasn't separated from bona fide discrimination in a institutionalized/legal/customary sense.
Speaking of "slit" eyes and low nasal bridges - cosmetic surgeries to correct those traits (when extreme) were available in China even during the decades when there were no TVs! It's almost as intuitive as an "average" man wanting to be tall and broad-shouldered and an "average" femal specimen desiring to be curvy and slim, and not too "bean pole"-like in height.
Many may find the light brown, olive complexion and relatively sharp features of North West Indians, Iranians, and certain South Americans aesthetically pleasing. Doesn't make them "better persons", but nor should they be prevented from acknowledging what they, or I, feel to be pleasing looks.
Millions upon millions of pale white folks here in NA tend to agree with me - on the visual pleasantness of a "cafe au-lait" skin tone that is. BTW, the "high yellow" or "creamy white" skin tone of NE Asians are highly pleasant, too (although I can't exactly rule out a personal bias here
). But I certainly know of a classmate or two back in Shanghai who "fixed" their eyelids ...
Similarly, I could see why "whitening lotion" may be popular in some parts of India - from nothing more than a purely "aesthetic" point of view.
The difficulty of course - is to separate the aesthetic domain from social, hierarchical aspects. I appreciate the nuances a lot more since I came to North America.
For the uninitiated folks from China (like how I was), be prepared to face complexities when you step into places like India or Brazil - or even the Americas.
It's not easy to know the difference. For the Indian North Easterners, however, discrimination and harassment seem to be a real deal.
And I think there may be other "complexes" at work here, too.
- from the Republic of China (i.e., Taiwan). I don't normally go to their site. But superficially, it seems to me to be a pro-KMT "mouth organ". Understandably, it is hardly pro-PRC. However, given its pro-KMT bend, it would be nominally anti-TI, pro-status-quo, and pro-"commerce".I came across a few of their pieces on Xinjiang and they seemed balanced and nuanced.
The original article in traditional Chinese can be read here. I think it was google-translated with a wee bit of "human touch". It's not bad. But frankly, it could've been better translated.
Having established the "journalistic integrity" of the source and verified its reasonable, matter-of-fact style in the original language, I think this should now be discussed.
Casteism, racialism, colourism, reverse colourism, reverse discrimination (you know what they say "if you see a Brahmin and a cobra" in Tamil Nadu ...) are nothing new in India. Everybody should know that.
Substitute the -isms above with "regionalism", "privileged class", and "rural/city" divide, we pretty much arrive at an analogous situation in the PRC, although in all likelihood less intrinsically virulent - for in China everyone is pretty much a descendant of shudras (in the "peasant" sense of the term).
Now another "cultural" wrinkle according to the South Asian correspondent of the Globe and Mail was the ubiquitous sport of "Eve teasing" in North India - the vaunted "Hindusthan". I wasn't particularly impressed by her article btw - for it made her look unnecessarily "dainty" as it beckoned a certain stereotype from a bygone era perhaps ... But it's clear that North India is full of perverts.
The Chinese by and large have no concept of "colourism" - I wouldn't know what it was when I was in China. But those who lived in places such as India, Brazil, Europe (e.g., Italy), the Middle East, or North America should be cognizant of this "fact of life".
Now in order to properly address "colourism", IMHO a greater "honesty" is called for. I in fact hold the view that some aspects of this so-called "discrimination" is really aesthetic preference based. And it renders the whole atmosphere needlessly charged and poisonous if this "aesthetic appeal" wasn't separated from bona fide discrimination in a institutionalized/legal/customary sense.
Speaking of "slit" eyes and low nasal bridges - cosmetic surgeries to correct those traits (when extreme) were available in China even during the decades when there were no TVs! It's almost as intuitive as an "average" man wanting to be tall and broad-shouldered and an "average" femal specimen desiring to be curvy and slim, and not too "bean pole"-like in height.
Many may find the light brown, olive complexion and relatively sharp features of North West Indians, Iranians, and certain South Americans aesthetically pleasing. Doesn't make them "better persons", but nor should they be prevented from acknowledging what they, or I, feel to be pleasing looks.
Millions upon millions of pale white folks here in NA tend to agree with me - on the visual pleasantness of a "cafe au-lait" skin tone that is. BTW, the "high yellow" or "creamy white" skin tone of NE Asians are highly pleasant, too (although I can't exactly rule out a personal bias here
). But I certainly know of a classmate or two back in Shanghai who "fixed" their eyelids ...Similarly, I could see why "whitening lotion" may be popular in some parts of India - from nothing more than a purely "aesthetic" point of view.
The difficulty of course - is to separate the aesthetic domain from social, hierarchical aspects. I appreciate the nuances a lot more since I came to North America.
For the uninitiated folks from China (like how I was), be prepared to face complexities when you step into places like India or Brazil - or even the Americas.
It's not easy to know the difference. For the Indian North Easterners, however, discrimination and harassment seem to be a real deal.
And I think there may be other "complexes" at work here, too.
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OR, maybeeeee you are INDIAN whose family moved to occupied territory. Or you live in a neighboring province and you consider it "North East" enough....
Do you want me to say that "I am from Tibet and that Tibet is an occupied country, so Chinese get the hell out".
Oh yeah, I bet you came from North East India and probably with a
Chinese look too !
Typical Indian troll , Get a life !!
Wonder who's the troll, when most of China's territory are forcefully occupied.
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