What's new

India decides not to Release the Video of Surgical Strike Footage in 'fear' of giving away tactics!

The Special Forces Operations are Never shown to the world

US did not show the OBL Video ; nobody does

Why would India reveal its tactics ; weapons and Technology
If you can't show then why create the bloody Hype?? seeing is believing and OBL operation is still doubtful and Pakistanis don't believe in such bullshit but indian do... that's the main difference in religion and culture we have...
 
"We have recently witnessed an unfortunate display of utter desperation playing out inside occupied Kashmir and along the Line of Control through a litany of falsehood and distortion of facts by India,"



Enjoy!!


Your bluff has been called.
Actually its your army whose bluff has been called.

Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military

ISLAMABAD: In a blunt, orchestrated and unprecedented warning, the civilian government has informed the military leadership of a growing international isolation of Pakistan and sought consensus on several key actions by the state.

As a result of the most recent meeting, an undisclosed one on the day of the All Parties’ Conference on Monday, at least two sets of actions have been agreed.

First, ISI DG Gen Rizwan Akhtar, accompanied by National Security Adviser Nasser Janjua, is to travel to each of the four provinces with a message for provincial apex committees and ISI sector commanders.

The message: military-led intelligence agencies are not to interfere if law enforcement acts against militant groups that are banned or until now considered off-limits for civilian action. Gen Akhtar’s inter-provincial tour has begun with a visit to Lahore.

Second, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has directed that fresh attempts be made to conclude the Pathankot investigation and restart the stalled Mumbai attacks-related trials in a Rawalpindi anti terrorism court.

Those decisions, taken after an extraordinary verbal confrontation between Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and the ISI DG, appear to indicate a high-stakes new approach by the PML-N government.

The following account is based on conversations with Dawn of individuals present in the crucial meetings this week.

All declined to speak on the record and none of the attributed statements were confirmed by the individuals mentioned.

Foreign secretary’s presentation
On Monday, on the day of the All Parties’ Conference, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry gave a separate, exclusive presentation in the Prime Minister’s Office to a small group of civil and military officials.

The meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Sharif and included senior cabinet and provincial officials. On the military side, ISI DG Rizwan Akhtar led the representatives.

The presentation by the foreign secretary summarised the results of the recent diplomatic outreach by Pakistan, the crux being that Pakistan faces diplomatic isolation and that the government’s talking points have been met with indifference in major world capitals.

On the US, Mr Chaudhry said that relations have deteriorated and will likely further deteriorate because of the American demand that action be taken against the Haqqani network. On India, Mr Chaudhry stated that the completion of the Pathankot investigation and some visible action against Jaish-i-Mohammad were the principal demands.

Then, to a hushed but surprised room, Mr Chaudhry suggested that while China has reiterated its support for Pakistan, it too has indicated a preference for a change in course by Pakistan. Specifically, while Chinese authorities have conveyed their willingness to keep putting on technical hold a UN ban on Jaish-i-Mohammad leader Masood Azhar, they have questioned the logic of doing so repeatedly.

Extraordinary exchange
The foreign secretary’s unexpectedly blunt conclusions triggered an astonishing and potentially ground-shifting exchange between the ISI DG and several civilian officials.

In response to Foreign Secretary Chaudhry’s conclusions, Gen Akhtar asked what steps could be taken to prevent the drift towards isolation. Mr Chaudhry’s reply was direct and emphatic: the principal international demands are for action against Masood Azhar and the Jaish-i-Mohmmad; Hafiz Saeed and the Lashkar-e-Taiba; and the Haqqani network.

To that, Gen Akhtar offered that the government should arrest whomever it deems necessary, though it is unclear whether he was referring to particular individuals or members of banned groups generally. At that point came the stunning and unexpectedly bold intervention by Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.

Addressing Gen Akhtar, the younger Sharif complained that whenever action has been taken against certain groups by civilian authorities, the security establishment has worked behind the scenes to set the arrested free. Astounded onlookers describe a stunned room that was immediately aware of the extraordinary, unprecedented nature of the exchange.
 
No, it made the surgical strikes even more mythical, Pakistan will always be in ambivalence whether such strikes took place or not.

Anyway, no proof would have been good enough for Pakistan. You would have termed the real video a doctored one. Releasing the video would not have made any difference.
1) Your own MLAs are exposing you ( MLA abdul rasheed).
.
2) anyone who ask for the proofs of sirJikal strike are being labelled as traitors.
.
.
pehley apni public or opposition ko to yaqeen dilwa do sirJikal strike ka phir Pakistan or world ka sochna:).

Actually its your army whose bluff has been called.

Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military

ISLAMABAD: In a blunt, orchestrated and unprecedented warning, the civilian government has informed the military leadership of a growing international isolation of Pakistan and sought consensus on several key actions by the state.

As a result of the most recent meeting, an undisclosed one on the day of the All Parties’ Conference on Monday, at least two sets of actions have been agreed.

First, ISI DG Gen Rizwan Akhtar, accompanied by National Security Adviser Nasser Janjua, is to travel to each of the four provinces with a message for provincial apex committees and ISI sector commanders.

The message: military-led intelligence agencies are not to interfere if law enforcement acts against militant groups that are banned or until now considered off-limits for civilian action. Gen Akhtar’s inter-provincial tour has begun with a visit to Lahore.

Second, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has directed that fresh attempts be made to conclude the Pathankot investigation and restart the stalled Mumbai attacks-related trials in a Rawalpindi anti terrorism court.

Those decisions, taken after an extraordinary verbal confrontation between Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and the ISI DG, appear to indicate a high-stakes new approach by the PML-N government.

The following account is based on conversations with Dawn of individuals present in the crucial meetings this week.

All declined to speak on the record and none of the attributed statements were confirmed by the individuals mentioned.

Foreign secretary’s presentation
On Monday, on the day of the All Parties’ Conference, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry gave a separate, exclusive presentation in the Prime Minister’s Office to a small group of civil and military officials.

The meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Sharif and included senior cabinet and provincial officials. On the military side, ISI DG Rizwan Akhtar led the representatives.

The presentation by the foreign secretary summarised the results of the recent diplomatic outreach by Pakistan, the crux being that Pakistan faces diplomatic isolation and that the government’s talking points have been met with indifference in major world capitals.

On the US, Mr Chaudhry said that relations have deteriorated and will likely further deteriorate because of the American demand that action be taken against the Haqqani network. On India, Mr Chaudhry stated that the completion of the Pathankot investigation and some visible action against Jaish-i-Mohammad were the principal demands.

Then, to a hushed but surprised room, Mr Chaudhry suggested that while China has reiterated its support for Pakistan, it too has indicated a preference for a change in course by Pakistan. Specifically, while Chinese authorities have conveyed their willingness to keep putting on technical hold a UN ban on Jaish-i-Mohammad leader Masood Azhar, they have questioned the logic of doing so repeatedly.

Extraordinary exchange
The foreign secretary’s unexpectedly blunt conclusions triggered an astonishing and potentially ground-shifting exchange between the ISI DG and several civilian officials.

In response to Foreign Secretary Chaudhry’s conclusions, Gen Akhtar asked what steps could be taken to prevent the drift towards isolation. Mr Chaudhry’s reply was direct and emphatic: the principal international demands are for action against Masood Azhar and the Jaish-i-Mohmmad; Hafiz Saeed and the Lashkar-e-Taiba; and the Haqqani network.

To that, Gen Akhtar offered that the government should arrest whomever it deems necessary, though it is unclear whether he was referring to particular individuals or members of banned groups generally. At that point came the stunning and unexpectedly bold intervention by Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.

Addressing Gen Akhtar, the younger Sharif complained that whenever action has been taken against certain groups by civilian authorities, the security establishment has worked behind the scenes to set the arrested free. Astounded onlookers describe a stunned room that was immediately aware of the extraordinary, unprecedented nature of the exchange.
Source of this news ? There is nothing such news in our media .
And of course everyone here wants Army to eliminate militants ( ttp, bla, lashkar e jhangvi etc) .as for Kashmiris we call them freedom fighter :).
 
bollywood literally disappointed me this time

I was hoping kabir khan will direct the Sur G Kal strikes by india n good news... may be its starring saif ali khan in leading role...but you won't be able to see him actually...as
1) saif will cross LOC in an invisble chopper,
2) coming down using an invisible rope
3)then saif n company will use state of the art noise-less guns to kill terrorists
n the extraordinary quality of these guns is that the dead bodies also disappear, in a blink of an eye(as these guns were made keeping in mind that no dead bodies should be shown on tv...some people have weak heart)

After watching this block buster movie pentagon will rush to india and sign another defence pact..THE MOTHER OF ALL DEFENCE DEALS...in which india will provide this latest technology to USA with ToT under Made in USA campaign, initiated by Trump...but the most important point is this
india will not ask $$$ in return...but modi ji wil ask complete n absolute ISOLATION OF PAKISTAN ACROSS THE GLOBE
:p::p::p::p::p::p::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Indian leaders should now be convinced that Indian security forces are compulsive liars and cheats. Doval Doctrine is really Devil's Doctrine. And the devil is a liar.
 
Source of this news ? There is nothing such news in our media .
And of course everyone here wants Army to eliminate militants ( ttp, bla, lashkar e jhangvi etc) .as for Kashmiris we call them freedom fighter :).
Cannot post the link. Go to dawn website.
 
This DGMO may have to pay for this one with his billet.



I love everything you talk about PAF, as I can surely comment with command. We scramble the moment you lineup on pathankot or jaisalmar. With Highmark, I am sure the antidote for SU was at a FOB and could engage you on take off. Enough of your fictional accounts and horse manure.



I have thought of a new term, borrowing on Indian Rhetoric: Hanuman Helis!


Your OPS philosophy has gone to the dogs and cows, rubbing horse manure on their hides.



To your vibrant Indian democracy, I say that this blunder will roll many heads, and either way now if you show the video or not, the times we live in will erode heavily on the intended plan of Modi sarkar.


But currently under modi you have all climbed a pole.


They are so happy, they maybe considering martial law at this stage.


we are waiting to see the tumble and the rumble.


so are you going to sit back or continue to pull the cart of horse manure?


And same applies to you sir, for putting it so eloquently, the whole world thinks its your Modi sarkar who is STUPID right now.
Do you know the pakistan rank in global competitive index? It's way below the table at 126, India is at 55.
 
The Government has Decided not to Release the Video of Surgical Strike along the LoC due to Security Reasons. The Govt believes that making the Footage Public will give away the Tactics and Operational Techniques employed by Para SF to Cross-LoC and Destroy Enemy Camps.

The Indian army which had reportedly handed over video footage of the surgical strikes across LoC to the government and was keen that the evidence be released and the final decision was upon PMO.

The level of provocation or political compulsion to battle an opposition narrative that the surgical strike was “fake”, the Narendra Modi government refrained from releasing the footage of the strikes. A Report, quoting eyewitness accounts from across the border, mentions graphic details of explosions, bodies being loaded onto trucks for secret burials and strikes on launch pads that took Lashkar-e-Taiyyaba terrorists by surprise.

Adding to the government’s discomfiture is a sense of indignation in the armed forces who are understandably outraged that their brave effort has been called into question. Top officers in the Indian army are keen that India releases evidence to “answer” those alleging that the strikes never happened.

But this time,The Prime Minister showed ‘strategic restraint’ and did not fall into the trap of providing evidence.

A former Army Chief General Shankar Roychowdhury advised the government not to put out sensitive information on public domain,

“The ISI and Pakistan army are eagerly looking forward to whatever they can pick up, particularly from the Indian media, because 80 percent of all intelligence comes from open sources… They are waiting to pick up intelligence about India’s operational techniques.”

Modi did the Right Thing by not releasing the evidence of the Strike. Doing so would tense up the situation even more between the two Countries


http://zittara.com/2016/10/05/gover...footage-may-give-away-the-tactics-of-para-sf/

@Windjammer @Side-Winder @Horus @DESERT FIGHTER @Areesh

Well Well

View attachment 341024

But but the Hanuman Regiment is stealth, invisible for the naked eye. How can we pick up their tactics? :raise:
 
I request to all my Indian friends, stop bothering or replying to any surgical strike provocation. what's the point. You need to understand, How can the Gov.t or Military accept it. They tell about our borders are so fortified, fenced, how can terrorists enter such highly militarized area. Same applies on their end.

We don't have to share any evidence just to pacify the Pakistani public. We dont have to give proof to Kejriwal, Chidambaram, Karat etc. This is an intelligence issue. Just to convince somebody's political rivalry & frustration to prove Modi wrong, the Gov.t or Military need not & should not, stake the national interests & security. We have to condemn & throw people like Kejriwal in the next election. Nautanki

It has lot of other implications if proven. I don't want to go in detail about what they are. So if Pakistanis claim it never happened it's actually good for us. If you look at the body language & how the atmosphere is, anybody can make a easy guess, whether it happened or not. Why did Iran shell on the same night of our strike.

So Kindly put to rest, we know it was done, that's enough. We don't have to do chest thumping by giving proof. Remember even if we don't give proof with in next couple of years somebody from Pakistan itself will confirm, it did happen. Please stop answering on this pointless topic, my humble request to my fellow Indians.


You have been reported for posting the offensive video. This isn't Modiland. Behave and stop acting like a coward.

This is how Indians debate by provoking and resorting to abuse. We are hospitable and we provide them the freedom to debate matters on our forum. Instead, these nasty Modi toadies abuse our hospitality and show their nasty true colors. Not entirely unexpected. They lack the decency to reason with. Sore losers. It tells us a lot about the character of this nation where women have to endure mass rape and people are judged on their caste.

There is nothing to reason with Modi toadies.
 
Last edited:
For a non existent operation, Pakistan government and army sure do care about it a lot.

And as far as India is concerned, thank God our democracy is strong enough to allow others to ask negative questions.
 
I have never lost so much respect for the IA as I have now. Poor DGMO forced to lie for the PM's 56'' obese chest. Boy o boy, the Indian has been reduced by their own pm as nothing but pawns to try to win some pride and therefore some credibility for the racist and terrorist PM of India. Jai Ratistan. I m still ROFL my tits off...supa powa led by the monkey brigade
 
Indian's should be ashamed

Claiming something absurd, declaring you will show the world the evidence to prove your claim

Then nothing


You have been lied to and conned by Modi and the indian army
 
Actually its your army whose bluff has been called.

Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military

ISLAMABAD: In a blunt, orchestrated and unprecedented warning, the civilian government has informed the military leadership of a growing international isolation of Pakistan and sought consensus on several key actions by the state.

As a result of the most recent meeting, an undisclosed one on the day of the All Parties’ Conference on Monday, at least two sets of actions have been agreed.

First, ISI DG Gen Rizwan Akhtar, accompanied by National Security Adviser Nasser Janjua, is to travel to each of the four provinces with a message for provincial apex committees and ISI sector commanders.

The message: military-led intelligence agencies are not to interfere if law enforcement acts against militant groups that are banned or until now considered off-limits for civilian action. Gen Akhtar’s inter-provincial tour has begun with a visit to Lahore.

Second, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has directed that fresh attempts be made to conclude the Pathankot investigation and restart the stalled Mumbai attacks-related trials in a Rawalpindi anti terrorism court.

Those decisions, taken after an extraordinary verbal confrontation between Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and the ISI DG, appear to indicate a high-stakes new approach by the PML-N government.

The following account is based on conversations with Dawn of individuals present in the crucial meetings this week.

All declined to speak on the record and none of the attributed statements were confirmed by the individuals mentioned.

Foreign secretary’s presentation
On Monday, on the day of the All Parties’ Conference, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry gave a separate, exclusive presentation in the Prime Minister’s Office to a small group of civil and military officials.

The meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Sharif and included senior cabinet and provincial officials. On the military side, ISI DG Rizwan Akhtar led the representatives.

The presentation by the foreign secretary summarised the results of the recent diplomatic outreach by Pakistan, the crux being that Pakistan faces diplomatic isolation and that the government’s talking points have been met with indifference in major world capitals.

On the US, Mr Chaudhry said that relations have deteriorated and will likely further deteriorate because of the American demand that action be taken against the Haqqani network. On India, Mr Chaudhry stated that the completion of the Pathankot investigation and some visible action against Jaish-i-Mohammad were the principal demands.

Then, to a hushed but surprised room, Mr Chaudhry suggested that while China has reiterated its support for Pakistan, it too has indicated a preference for a change in course by Pakistan. Specifically, while Chinese authorities have conveyed their willingness to keep putting on technical hold a UN ban on Jaish-i-Mohammad leader Masood Azhar, they have questioned the logic of doing so repeatedly.

Extraordinary exchange
The foreign secretary’s unexpectedly blunt conclusions triggered an astonishing and potentially ground-shifting exchange between the ISI DG and several civilian officials.

In response to Foreign Secretary Chaudhry’s conclusions, Gen Akhtar asked what steps could be taken to prevent the drift towards isolation. Mr Chaudhry’s reply was direct and emphatic: the principal international demands are for action against Masood Azhar and the Jaish-i-Mohmmad; Hafiz Saeed and the Lashkar-e-Taiba; and the Haqqani network.

To that, Gen Akhtar offered that the government should arrest whomever it deems necessary, though it is unclear whether he was referring to particular individuals or members of banned groups generally. At that point came the stunning and unexpectedly bold intervention by Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.

Addressing Gen Akhtar, the younger Sharif complained that whenever action has been taken against certain groups by civilian authorities, the security establishment has worked behind the scenes to set the arrested free. Astounded onlookers describe a stunned room that was immediately aware of the extraordinary, unprecedented nature of the exchange.


Clearly you cant differentiate between the internal tussle going on between the "imported" democracy and the establishment on one hand, and on the other, the Indian claims of Sir G kal strike and Pakistani establishment response to it.
 

Latest posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom