India Creating Ring of Fire in South Asia

[alamgir]

India quietly ringing Bangladesh with barbed-wire, cutting off former neighbors- Another Indian Propaganda & Disinformation
Thursday June 28 2007 10:57:47 AM BDT


Are Bangladesh media, intellectuals, the Bangladesh government and its Embassies going to protest at the pack of lies and disinformation published in International Herald Tribune ( www.IHT.com,) ( write polite protest to: letters@iht.com, iht@iht.com ) in a report from the India based American news agency Associated Press (write a polite protest to: info@AP.org ) as FACT?

IHT has published an disingenuous and cunning "report" with some interesting twists worthy of propagandist. Every paragraph is full of images all culled from Hindu Fundamentalist RSS, VHP and BJP pronouncements over the years. India has hardly been quiet about the barbed-wire fence but still cunning and inaccurate propaganda language. Once again the high reputation of an American owned newspaper is brought low by Indians disinformation using AP journalists.

The headline sets the scene and cunningly sets the theme. IHT report lies when AP journalist propagandist says "India quietly ringing Bangladesh with barbed-wire, cutting off its former neighbour" in its headlines. The fencing has been reported for many years and weekly and monthly which the IHT and AP should have checked. Bangladesh could not care less what Indians do in their territory ; although Bangladesh along with the UN and world's Human Rights community have shamelessly closed their eyes to endless carnage of native peoples by Indian Army. However, when Indian Army regularly kill, rape, steal money, food and equipment, kidnap, smuggle petrol, act as conduits for lethal drug dealers, encroach on Bengali territory, Bangladesh cannot remain quiet and let such India continue its "Wild West" ways. Time after time the brave & disciplined Jawans and farming communities of Bangladesh have displayed patience with undisciplined and unruly & corrupt Indian Army. Indian Army provocation is a daily fact of life along all of South Asian borders, and not just Bangladesh.

What makes the IHT and AP report so comical is that there has been no rail or river access between India and Bangladesh for most of the last 60 years after the end of British rule. The road access between the two countries are heavily controlled by both countries. Bangladesh has cut off India, not the other way round, due to terrorism and civil war raging inside India for most the last 60 years and political distrust between all the neighbours. By the way India's relationship with all her neighbours including China, Bangladesh, Burma, Bhutan, Sikkim (now under occupation) Pakistan, Nepal & Sri Lanka is fraught with dis-trustfulness and hatred verging on racism. There is little or no rail, road or water connection between any of India's surrounding neighbours. INDIA IS CUT-OFF FROM ALL HER NEIGHBOURS. This must be unique in the entire world. IHT should ask why. IHT should be ashamed for publishing such Indian lies and distortions in its distinguished newspaper.

So very cunning and dishonest display to put in phrases like: "the fence felt like an insult, as if their country was a plague that needed to be quarantined", " growing fears in New Delhi about illegal immigration and cross-border terrorism", "some experts estimate as many as 20 million Bangladeshis are in India illegally, most crammed into large cities or in shantytowns just over the border", "India's US$730 per capita income looks pitifully low by Western standards, but it's a decent income to many in Bangladesh, where some 60 million people live on less than US$1 a day".... And yet every single phrase has been repeated by Indian media and its fanatics Hindus in their vernacular media for the last 20 years in one manner or another.

IHT and its readers should know that Bangladesh does not object to making its borders effective to prevent the violence and wars spilling over in her territory. As any one knows India's neighbour Bhutan was forced by India to use Bhutan Army recently to remove India's own terrorists using its territory to fight Indian Army but without much success. Similar attempts have been made with Burma, also without success. Sri Lanka and India have similar issues with cross border terrorism and Indian support for Hindu Tamil freedom from Buddhist Singhalese state.

India is no United States. India is a desperately poor country where 750 million people lives on less than a $1 a day. Recently it was reported that some 200 million Indians live on less that 13 (US) Cents a day. The reality of poverty in India is unimaginable to most civilised Asians, Europeans, Africans of Americans. The Hindu caste system blights the lives of 75% of Indian people deemed to be Hindu. The lives of 250 million Untouchables (also known as Dalit, Harijan) is beyond human understanding. Not even Apartheid South Africa or the old South in the USA can match India in its evil. 250 million Untouchables have a lower status than a monkey, a cow or a ***. Yes, change is happening but at a snails pace. 50 years of United Nations charter and 59 years of independence from the British has passed. What other excuse is there? Muslims have become the stick for Indian sickness.

Muslims are at the bottom of humanity in India today, lower than the Untouchables. Divide-and-Rule is the way. India cannot hide this fact, and has been forced to admit that Muslims are at the bottom in all spheres of life in India. Even in Indian West Bengal, a state apparently run by Communists, Muslims are at the bottom. Even though they form 30% of the population of West Bengal they have little representation in government jobs, higher education, political representation, economic activity even after 59 years of Indian independence. Discrimination is rife but it is silent, silent even in the media. Muslims are prevented from migrating to the few urban places in the state. The other large group, Untouchables, form 26% of population; and tribal people form 6% of West Bengal population. Vast bulk of the West Bengal Hindus of caste belong to Sudra caste.

In the past week it was reported in The Guardian newspaper (London) that many tea garden workers of West Bengal are dying of starvation. It is a desperately poor state with 90 million people. Compared to Maharashtra's $700 per capita, West Bengal's comes to a mare $300. The lies about Bangladesh are just a joke. We have a per capita of $510 in 2007 and rising. Indian economy is rising by 8% and Bangladesh by 7%. If investments take off and tourism industry lives up to expectations Bangladesh will grow by up to 15%. By the way Bangladesh was an industrial giant of the world and Asia 250 years. That fact alone makes India nervous. That alone should tell the Western and Asian world why India should use so many devices to undermine Bangladesh.

Western or Asian readers will realise how pathetic it is to talk about India being paved with gold when its filled with abject destitution. India is a hell-hole but imagines herself to be America. By the way Mexico' s economy is bigger than India's. Mexico's per capita is over $3,000. India's is just $700. The hype and propaganda has got Indians spinning tales about joining the "rich man's club". And worse still India is no China. China's per capita is over $2,500 and raising by the day. But China does not hype, it's astonishing rise is there for all to see. China is one nation, India is an artificial construct like the USSR.

When Muslims of India face degradation, starvation, discrimination at every level, denial of education, harassment and death at the hand of police (Muslim make up a large proportion of jail population in India) why would Bengali people want to go there? To commit suicide? In Bangladesh even the poorest can gain basic education and bring them up in their faith. The infant mortality rate in Bangladesh is lot lower than India. When India's own people starve, suffer indignity, have few jobs how would a Bangladesh immigrant survive in such a god forsaken land? It's stupid and bizarre. India's friends should slap her out of her stupidity. India has long tried to create facts out of lies and fabrications by consistent repetition. This trick was tried by the Nazis against the Jews, Slavs and Roma people of Europe.

One has not mentioned Uttar Pradesh (UP) or Bihar where some 320 million people live. Their lives are even more blighted than those of West Bengal. According to the TIME magazine in an article in 2006 Uttar Pradesh has a per capita less than $200. Only last month the London based Times newspaper reported that India contains largest number of the most destitute people in the world whose condition is worse than those of Sub Sahara Africa or Ethiopia.

Sadly one is forced to give the ugly facts on India because of India's crude misrepresentation of Bangladesh. It does not make one feel superior but immoral. Whole of South Asia is desperately poor even after freedom from the British 59 years ago. The political elite of India, dominated by the Brahmin Hindu gods ( 2.5% of Hindus), bear a particular responsibility for not creating trust between neighbours. Keeping each other down has meant that the poorest majority have remained a broken people in all the countries.

British may have left the region 59 years ago but all the problems have remained. Hunger, racism, religious hatred, Hindu persecution of Untouchables, regional discord, riots, fake history writing have added to the blight of the Indian sub-continent. India could have been a force for good in the region. Instead India is a source of instability in the whole region. Hindu-Buddhist religious hatred, Singhala-Tamil racial war in Sri Lanka has an active hand. In Nepal India is the single most hated country thanks to its destabilising influence. Buddhist Sikkim was illegally taken over by India thanks to the Dalai Lama being held hostage and never being allowed to protest. And the sagas of the other regional nations and her relations are known in the West and Asia.


India has been lucky in that America and UK chose to set-up Call Centres in India, despite India having very poor electricity supply, hardly any phone lines, few road and primitive airports. Can you name one other country where the West has been so generous in its investments (yes, its not a huge amount of investments when compared to......)? It's a miracle of Western generosity that India was given a telecoms infrastructure, roads, electricity supply and establishment of software houses even though it had almost nothing before.

India being paved with gold attracting millions of Mexicans. A very sick joke. It's an fanciful analogy used in Indian media for some years and now reproduced in IHT through reproduction of AP report. Now India has come with another novel theme: Israel and its creation of barrier in Palestine. India creates a barrier with Bangladesh like the Israelis. These are just Indian tricks, fooling no one.

FACTS ARE SO VERY DIFFERENT. Actually India has been trying, for 30 years, to get Bangladesh to help India open up the road, rail and water routes so that India can have easy access to Assam, Tripura and Nagaland for its Army and looting of North East India's natural resources . Bangladesh knowing the unstable situation prevailing in India has refused to allow any such privileges. Bangladesh has refused to allow gas pipeline from Burma to run through her territory into India. Further Bangladesh refused India's attempt to get the Eurasia Highway routed to its convenience. So you see India is promoting lies. Bangladesh is not some landlocked country. IT IS INDIA WHICH FEELS HERSELF LOCKED OUT. It's India which has no access to any of her neighbouring countries. The invisible barrier is against India, an unreliable and unstable neighbour to all the surrounding nations.

Now look at India's continued blocking Bhutan and Nepal's attempt to have direct road and rail link to Bangladesh. Nepal is 12 miles away and Bhutan 50 miles from Bangladesh. Year after years of attempt to have India allow access roads from the landlocked nations to Bangladesh remain blocked. Such is the unruliness of India every year goods rot in the India-Bangladesh border because of one Indian excuse or another. And yet there is an UN Charter on landlocked nations and their access routes. India has been a bad example to the world. And now the world must take action or else a terrible and forbidding future beacons for Asia and beyond.

Indian media, BJP and even "liberals" have been talking about 5, 10, 15, 18, 20, 22, 25, 30 million Bangladesh citizens inside India for many years. Bangladesh is a short-cut and less loaded way of saying MUSLIM. It is ISLAMOPHOBIA at the heart of Indian lies. If racism is an ugly disease than India is at the heart of the virus. And this same India protests about racism against her at every forum in the world. India has no excuse for spreading lies, even using elements within its 25 million economic migrant elements.

www.bangladesh-web.com

 

[blitz]

Well whats wrong with building a fence ? Good fences make good neighbors.
But wow, the vile language and pure hatred emanating from the above article puts to rest any speculation about the caliber and credibility of the writer.

 

[alamgir]

South Asia 2010: The Instability Factor

The tragic killings of the Royal household in Nepal and the ensuing protests once again highlighted the volatility of the states in the South Asian region. Some time earlier, the military exchanges along the Indo-Bangladesh border reflected the simmering resentment of the smaller States of South Asia towards India. The manner in which the situation unfolded reflects what may happen in the future – which may not be contained so easily. Imagine a scenario where Bangladesh tries to recover an enclave of its territory occupied by India since 1971, and it succeeds. Indian forces once again react and cross the border into Bangladesh, where once again locals pin them down till such time as Bangladeshi forces engage them. This encounter may well result in an escalated conflict if India chooses not to retreat this time round. Making use of the opportunity, the separatists in northeast India may up their military ante at an opportune time, as might Myanmar, which also has a festering territorial dispute with India. With the transnational spillover of these conflicts, one can see multiple levels of military clashes breaking out on the South Asian scene.

Given the fact that India, since its independence, like Israel since its creation, has expanded its borders through military aggression, festering territorial disputes are an ongoing major factor of instability for South Asia, and will remain so in the future. However, added to this are other dimensions of latent instability prevalent in India, which have the potential of breaking out into major conflicts at multiple levels. Since it has become the fashion for think tanks in the West to outline all manner of scenarios on which the future is then predicted, it may be worthwhile to examine some of the ground realities in India, which affect its neighbourhood – threatening to make South Asia a highly unstable region in the coming decade.

Threat to Indian “secularism”

If there is a fundamentalist/obscurantist threat in South Asia, it is prevalent in India under its pretensions of secularism. The other South Asian countries all have a religious underpinning of one kind or another – Buddhism in Sri Lanka, Hinduism in Nepal, Islam in Pakistan, Bangladesh and the Maldives – so any resultant sectarian issues are contained within their borders. With India the situation is different. Already, there is a growing resentment amongst the minority religious groups against the spread of an increasingly aggressive Hindu fundamentalism. The regular burning down of churches and persecution of Christian missionaries is a recent reflection of this trend. With leaders like Bal Thackeray calling for the disenfranchisement of the Muslims, one can see a wellspring of Muslim resentment also growing. One has already witnessed the demolition of the Babri mosque and Muslim holy places in Indian-held Kashmir. With the growth of populist Islam, the Muslims of India may well develop enough confidence to resist any further attempts at desecration more forcefully in the future. This time round, there may be a convergence of interests between the Muslims, Christians and Sikhs – the latter having also witnessed the Indian State’s aggression against their holy site, the Golden Temple.

Add to this the problems of the Dalits, which continues to cause periodic violence in states like Bihar, and there is an explosive situation waiting to erupt and totally disrupt the civil society within the Indian State. Given the ethno-religious linkages across borders, the spillovers into the neighbouring States would be inevitable and thus the Indian State’s internal instability will drag in the whole region into a vortex of social anarchy.

Separatist Movements

While Kashmir falls outside of this category – given that it is an international dispute between Pakistan and India – there are at least sixteen separatist movements going on within the Indian State for decades, although presently the active insurgencies are in the northeastern states. These have ethnic and religious dimensions also. Furthermore, given that they border other national States that also have territorial disputes with India, future scenarios point to many modes of violent conflicts breaking out. Even presently, there are more Indian soldiers deployed on anti-insurgency activities in the northeastern states than in Indian-held Kashmir in any given period.

Indian Political Instability

Following its independence, India’s efforts to develop a secular democratic culture held the internal fissiparous tendencies in some sort of a check. However, with the rise of Hindu fundamentalist parties like the RSS/BJP, and the loss of support for national parties like the Congress party, the secular trend has been reversed. This has already led to the religious conflicts becoming exacerbated. Given the rigid caste foundation of Hinduism, secularism with its underlying egalitarianism cannot survive for long in a political environment dominated by Hindu fundamentalist parties like the BJP.

The political structure of Indian democracy is being undermined by massive corruption and by the armed mafias that control the mainstream politics. In addition, unlike in Pakistan where national parties made gains at the expense of regional parties, in the last elections, Indian regional parties have gained at the expense of national parties. With the rise of these regional parties, national cohesion is being threatened especially with the national parties also now pandering to divisive ethno-caste demands. Given the diversity of the Indian State, the undermining of secularism as a cohesive force for national unity is bound to lead to further violent upheavals, already manifest in some regions.

Growing Militarism

India’s overt nuclearisation has brought to the fore its strong militaristic underpinnings to its statehood. It began expanding its borders by the use of military force from 1947 onwards – from Junagadh(1947) and Hyderabad (1948), to Kashmir (1947), Goa (1961) and Sikkim (1974), to attempted grabs of enclaves in Bangladesh. Now with its nuclear doctrine, overtly expansionist in nature, and its development of missiles, which reach out towards southeast Asia and the Middle East, India poses a conventional military threat and casts a nuclear shadow on the whole region. By establishing a Far East Command on the Andaman and Nicobar Islands and by declaring its intent of maintaining a permanent naval presence in the South China Sea, India has signaled its aggressive strategic designs. It is not farfetched to assume that in a foreseeable future, India may well have a military encounter with China, or one of the Muslim States of Southeast Asia – especially if the US builds a strategic relationship with India, which is perceived to be a source of threat to these countries.

The developing Indo-Israeli military nexus has increased the threat perception of the Middle Eastern and West Asian States. Despite India’s efforts to evolve closer relations with some of the Gulf States, its old Middle Eastern allies like Egypt and Syria are increasingly suspicious of Indian intent, especially in strategic terms. A formal US input into Indo-Israeli relations will add to the instability factor in the region, and those projecting future scenarios for the region need to take account of such developments.

India’s military ambitions will not be contained by any strategic alliance with Western powers – in fact, such alliances will have a multiplier effect for Indian ambitions, for it will feel it can act with greater impunity. For instance, in a future scenario where the US needs India for its strategic plans in West Asia, one may well see a regional military conflict breaking out, with a nuclear Pakistan being compelled to lend support to a Muslim State under attack. Also, in such a case, the sizable Muslim population of India may show its resentment and add to internal instability within India.

Additionally, the growing military expenditure of India at the cost of its millions of poverty-stricken population and weaponisation within the Indian society will, in the long term, increase the levels of social frustration and inevitably lead to greater violent unrest. Grinding social poverty and caste discrimination within India remain a volatile factor of implosion from within.

Nuclear Terrorism

To add to the growing multiple levels of instability that define the Indian polity today, there is the problem of nuclear theft that has beset the Indian nuclear establishment. Since most Indian facilities are not under IAEA safeguards, there is no accountability of fissile material and reports of nuclear thefts have added to the fear that India’s nuclear installations are increasingly becoming attractive targets for sub-national groups challenging the Indian state. Again, given the transnational civil society linkages in South Asia, this threat of nuclear theft also has a multiplier effect on sources of violence and terrorism, within the Indian state as well as within the region.

Indirect Interventions/Low Intensity Conflicts (LIC)

India also seeks to intervene indirectly in its neighbourhood against governments it finds unfriendly or against States, which it wishes to keep destabilized. With LICs becoming a mainstay of Indian external policy, this dangerous game of brinkmanship being played by India has the potential to erupt out of control in the future. Already, one has seen the adverse result of such an LIC activity fuelled by India in Sri Lanka.

State Terrorism

Finally, with the international community choosing to ignore India’s use of State terror against the people of Kashmir, India has become emboldened into using rape and custodial killings as part of an overall policy of repression in India-held Kashmir. This has intensified the Kashmiri military struggle against Indian occupation, and India’s efforts to colour this struggle in purely religious terms will inevitably lead to more support for the struggle from popular Islamic forces – as happened in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation of that country.

All these factors show that unless there is a radical containment of the prevailing trends within India, by the year 2010, India will not only be destabilized from within but will also have destabilized the region.

Dr. Shireen M. Mazari

www.issi.org.pk

 

[Maddy]

One single post and you can already foresee the future!
You must be the Oracle!

Why not, if you are Neo then I could be Oracle.

I nice to meet you, I am sure we will cross ways more than once on this forum

 

[Maddy]

Well whats wrong with building a fence ? Good fences make good neighbors.

Well said, Bangladesh has every right to take care of its own citizens.

The fencing was absolutely necessary with all the illegial immigration from Bangladesh pouring into east India. Finally some good foresight by the GoI.

 

[Neo]

Why not, if you are Neo then I could be Oracle.

I nice to meet you, I am sure we will cross ways more than once on this forum

Welcome aboard Maddy, please introduce yourself.
Thanks!

 

[Maddy]

Welcome aboard Maddy, please introduce yourself.
Thanks!

thanx Mod. Posted in thte Intro Section

 

[BanglaBhoot]

India-Bangladesh relations

Brigadier General Shafaat Ahmad, ndc, psc (Retired)

The Daily Star - July 28, 2007

The recently concluded Foreign Secretary level meeting between Bangladesh and India ended on a high note of expectations on both sides. Every time there had been such meetings, the expectation had soared high but then it fell at a much faster rate. There have been meetings at various levels in the past but there has not been any substantial progress in resolving the outstanding issues between the two countries. Indian media and elites have been putting the blame squarely on Bangladesh for not being able to resolve the issues. From the statements of the Indians one gets a feeling that Bangladesh have been very ungrateful towards India for what they did for Bangladesh in 1971.

To understand the internal dynamics of the Indo-Bangla relations one has to peep into the past to the days immediately after the independence. The relations between India and Bangladesh began at a very cordial level. There was a sincere feeling of gratefulness in the minds of the people of Bangladesh towards the Indian people and their leaders for supporting the Bangladesh liberation movement with men and material. India continued to provide support to the nascent country in all spheres of national life.

To show gratitude to the people of India for their support in the Liberation War, Bangbandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman visited Calcutta and addressed a public meeting in the presence of Mrs. Indira Gandhi. During this visit, Bangbandhu raised the question of India returning to Bangladesh the weapons and equipment captured from the Pakistani Army in Bangladesh. He also raised the question of resolving the pending issues inherited from India-Pakistan days, like the sharing of Ganges water, return of the enclaves belonging to Bangladesh.

Late Mr. J.N. Dixit, the first Deputy High Commissioner of India in Bangladesh has very succinctly discussed the state of Indo-Bangladesh relations. He writes in his book 'Liberation and Beyond', “In any case, fissures began to appear in Indo-Bangladesh relations by the first quarter of 1973. They accentuated to critical level in 1974. The honeymoon phase of Indo-Bangladesh relations came to an end by spring of 1973.” He further writes that some policy decisions of the Indian Government were detrimental to the improvement of bi-lateral relations between the two countries. In another place in the same book he writes, “ With the benefit of hindsight I feel that we should have handed over all the captured Pakistani military equipment to Bangladesh instead of retaining it. It would have been emotionally and politically satisfying to Bangladesh. By not returning these equipment, we created an undercurrent of resentment about India in the newly emerging Bangladeshi military establishment.”

In the initial years three crucial bilateral issues came up for consideration between Bangladesh and India. They were (a) sharing of the Ganges water on a permanent basis, (b) the issue of the enclaves on both sides and (c) the delimitation of the sea boundary in the Bay of Bengal. Given the relationship that existed between the leaders of the two countries, particularly between Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and Mrs. Indira Gandhi, these issues should have been resolved. However that was not to be.

Barrister Harunur Rashid, in his book “Indo-Bangladesh Relations An Insider's View,” gives a vivid description of the reasons why the relationship started plummeting so early. The relationship could never again go back to the early days; it has been a roller coaster ride all along. The Bangladeshi Government and the people got a shock when India decided to operate the Farraka Barrage in the dry season of 1975. Earlier in a Joint Declaration in May 1974, the two Prime Ministers had agreed that the two sides would “arrive at a mutually acceptable allocation of the water available during the periods of minimum flow in the Ganges.” Again in July 1974, at a Ministerial meeting India once again confirmed that they would arrive at a mutually accepted solution before operating the Barrage. This showed the value of a categorical commitment given by India at the highest level.

Similar fate was meted to the “Agreement of Bangladesh-India Land Boundary 1974”. As per Article 5 of the Agreement, “This Agreement shall be subject to ratification by the Government of Bangladesh and India and the Instrument of Ratification shall be exchanged as early as possible. The Agreement shall take effect from the date of the exchange of the Instruments of Ratification.” Till to date the Agreement has not been ratified by the Indians whereas Bangladesh ratified the Agreement in 1974. Barrister Harun writes in above-mentioned Book, “India argued that the considerable delay was caused because the Agreement, in particular the lease of Indian Territory to Bangladesh was challenged in the Indian Courts. However, under rules of international law India cannot cite its internal laws as a justification of its failure to perform a treaty (article 26 of Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, 1969).”

The above two incidents clearly show that the warmth in the relationship between the top leaders of two countries in the early days of independence were artificial. There was no change in the overall policy in regards to the problems between India and Bangladesh. There was no sign of any softening of attitude of India in dealing with the bi-lateral issues with Bangladesh. Before the above-mentioned issues could be resolved, a new issue cropped up in South Talpatty.

The Indo-Bangladesh relations took a nosedive after the death of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. Mrs. Indira Gandhi who was the Prime Minister of India took a very hard stand on Bangladesh. However, with the Janata Government coming to power in India, bi-lateral relations improved considerably between Bangladesh and India. Mr. Morarji Desai's Government tried to resolve the issues with India's neighbours. As a result 'The Ganges Water Agreement' was signed in November 1977. With the return of Mrs. Gandhi as Prime Minister of India the relations cooled down again. However, this time Mrs. Gandhi was much more pragmatic and allowed the 'Ganges Water Agreement' to be extended by another five years although without the guarantee provision.

With the passage of time more issues started cropping up between India and Bangladesh. But none of them have been resolved. At present there are ten major issues that have to be resolved between the two countries. They are:

* Non-ratification of the Indo-Bangladesh Land Boundary Agreement of 1974.
* Handing over of Enclaves.
* Delimitation of the sea-boundary in the Bay of Bengal between India and Bangladesh.
* Settlement of the ownership of Talpatty Island.
* Border fencing.
* Sharing of waters of all common rivers.
* Transit facilities
* Trade deficit.
* Cross border militancy.
* Illegal migration.

Mr. Dixit has been candid in accepting that India has to play a major part if the pending issues between the two countries are to be resolved. I quote “As far as the relation with India goes it has been a roller caster ride over the last 23 years. Despite all the professed mutual goodwill and declared commitments to bilateral cooperation by both countries, a number of issues dating back to the times of liberation still remain unsolved.” India has to understand that unless there is reciprocity in dealing with the bilateral issues, these cannot be resolved. It cannot be that Bangladesh is always on the giving side. Bangladesh attaches great importance in having a friendly, working and cordial relationship with India. India has to realize that Bangladesh has developed regional and multi-lateral relationship with other countries, which are equally important. After all Bangladesh has also to look after her own national interest.

So far there has been much commitments on the Indian side but seldom have they been implemented. The onus is on the Indians; they have to act not as a big brother rather as an older brother and have to start rolling the balls so that Bangladesh can also reciprocate effectively.

 

[Bull]

undisciplined and unruly & corrupt Indian Army.

Very good editing, shows the quality of the source!!!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

What is wrong in fencing one's own borders?

If Bangladesh was a more affluent country than India, Indians would then be illegally entering Bangladesh for jobs, wouldn't they, as both Indians and Pakistanis are doing to illegally enter Europe?

And would India (hypothetically the poorer country for the sake of discussion) build a fence to keep her poverty stricken within her borders to add to her miseries? If the poverty stricken multitudes can go across and ease the social tensions, then surely a fence would not be in order.

It is those who are at a disadvantage and are unable to send in their hordes of poverty stricken people that are crying themselves hoarse about the fence!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

China is building a dam to divert the water of the Brahamaputra to her territories.

Has Bangladesh objected?

India has.

But is China listening?

I don't think so.

At this rate, even the Indus Water treaty will become redundant!

 

[con]

What is wrong in fencing one's own borders?

Sir,
The same old "Akhand Bharat" conspiracy. World has moved on,India has moved on but our dear neighbors are still under the fear of "Akhand Bharat".

If India ever plans to build artificial islands like the ones in UAE, I can bet our neighbors would complain about India's plans for "Greater India" or "Akhand Bharat" as they see it.

Logical is always out of the window.

 

[Bull]

India quietly ringing Bangladesh with barbed-wire, cutting off former neighbors- Another Indian Propaganda & Disinformation[/SIZE]

Just read below and see whose propoganda this is.

India is no United States. India is a desperately poor country where 750 million people lives on less than a $1 a day. Recently it was reported that some 200 million Indians live on less that 13 (US) Cents a day. The reality of poverty in India is unimaginable to most civilised Asians, Europeans, Africans of Americans. The Hindu caste system blights the lives of 75% of Indian people deemed to be Hindu. The lives of 250 million Untouchables (also known as Dalit, Harijan) is beyond human understanding. Not even Apartheid South Africa or the old South in the USA can match India in its evil. 250 million Untouchables have a lower status than a monkey, a cow or a ***. Yes, change is happening but at a snails pace. 50 years of United Nations charter and 59 years of independence from the British has passed. What other excuse is there? Muslims have become the stick for Indian sickness. Even in Indian West Bengal, a state apparently run by Communists, Muslims are at the bottom. Even though they form 30% of the population of West Bengal they have little representation in government jobs, higher education, political representation, economic activity even after 59 years of Indian independence. Discrimination is rife but it is silent, silent even in the media. Muslims are prevented from migrating to the few urban places in the state. The other large group, Untouchables, form 26% of population; and tribal people form 6% of West Bengal population. Vast bulk of the West Bengal Hindus of caste belong to Sudra caste.

There is little or no rail, road or water connection between any of India's surrounding neighbours.

India has rail and road connection with paksitan, definitly road connection with Nepal
Trade happens btw India - Nepal and SriLanka. Check the facts outs.

As any one knows India's neighbour Bhutan was forced by India to use Bhutan Army recently to remove India's own terrorists using its territory to fight Indian Army but without much success. Similar attempts have been made with Burma, also without success.

Check the news again, this is wrong info.

Sri Lanka and India have similar issues with cross border terrorism and Indian support for Hindu Tamil freedom from Buddhist Singhalese state.

LTTE is a ethinic rebel group not a relegious one.

By the way Bangladesh was an industrial giant of the world and Asia 250 years. That fact alone makes India nervous. That alone should tell the Western and Asian world why India should use so many devices to undermine Bangladesh.

Can anybody substantiate this?

India has been lucky in that America and UK chose to set-up Call Centres in India, despite India having very poor electricity supply, hardly any phone lines, few road and primitive airports. Can you name one other country where the West has been so generous in its investments (yes, its not a huge amount of investments when compared to......)? It's a miracle of Western generosity that India was given a telecoms infrastructure, roads, electricity supply and establishment of software houses even though it had almost nothing before.

Well this is **** statement again. They invested money, hard earned money. They knew what they were doing.

Bangladesh is not some landlocked country. IT IS INDIA WHICH FEELS HERSELF LOCKED OUT. It's India which has no access to any of her neighbouring countries.

U just contradicted yourself by saying the following.

And yet there is an UN Charter on landlocked nations and their access routes]

Now look at India's continued blocking Bhutan and Nepal's attempt to have direct road and rail link to Bangladesh. and Bhutan 50 miles from Bangladesh. Year after years of attempt to have India allow access roads from the landlocked nations to Bangladesh remain blocked.

Well you said B;deh blocked India's eurasia road and pipeline plans right. So isnt it nice that India paid you back in kind.

Nepal is 12 miles away

12 miles away!!!

 

[BanglaBhoot]

If Bangladesh was a more affluent country than India, Indians would then be illegally entering Bangladesh for jobs, wouldn't they, as both Indians and Pakistanis are doing to illegally enter Europe?

There are tens of thousands of Indians in BD illegally looking or already in jobs.

 

[The Wisdom Tree]

There are tens of thousands of Indians in BD illegally looking or already in jobs.

Real hard to digest man.

But giving you benefit of doubt, ... probably there to work in your intelligence services.