India creates 60 – 170 km Pragati – Surface to Surface Tactical Missile System

[kaykay]

Your policy looks good on paper but in reality it isn't
India will never sacrifice millions of people for a thousand or so soldiers.
And your BMD is useless incase of all out Nuclear attack

But your country will risk an all out nuclear war by using nuclear weapons just to kill 5000-10000 Indian soldiers?? Sorry man but your policy is faulty too as you said for us, you can't risk lives of your millions of people too.

 

[Alpha1]

But your country will risk an all out nuclear war by using nuclear weapons just to kill 5000-10000 Indian soldiers?? Sorry man but your policy is faulty too as you said for us, you can't risk lives of your millions of people too.

Agreed, no one would like to risk millions of people, this decreases the chances of War happening in the 1st place

 

[illusion8]

An All out Nuclear attack! A barrage of BMs, no way

A barrage from where? all your missile sites are well marked for bombardment.

 

[shiv]

Agreed, no one would like to risk millions of people, this decreases the chances of War happening in the 1st place

While your missiles can take some where of the order of 15-30 minutes to reach it's destination, our missiles will hardly take 2-3 minutes to reach the pakistani targets ! So even in case of a barrage of missiles, the density of launches which India can achieve is multiple times more than pakistan !

 

[amriRDX]

And by the way our BMD can take most of your missiles well beyond the range of indian soil.But ones you launch a nuke then you guys just can't imagine the thing you all gonna face because you all will be wiped out..:p :p

 

[kurup]

Can we go back to the actual discussion which is Pragati missile .

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Don't embarass yourself by claiming that Nasr has a payload less than a kilo .

Nasr has a range of 60 km with a sub-kiloton TNW warhead and not one which weighs less than a kilo ..... LOL .

OTOH , Prahar has a range of 150 km with a payload weighing around 200kg .

Maybe u need to visit pak's missile tech thread to gain some knowledge.
The primary range of yr missile is 60 km as said in thread.

 

[The Deterrent]

Maybe u need to visit pak's missile tech thread to gain some knowledge.
The primary range of yr missile is 60 km as said in thread.

It is not the primary range, for Pragati 60km is the lower limit of the range envelope...which means that it cannot hit targets less than 60kms away.

 

[Assault Rifle]

It is not the primary range, for Pragati 60km is the lower limit of the range envelope...which means that it cannot hit targets less than 60kms away.

Wrong again.
The missile can carry a 200 kg payload to a range of 170km whereas it can carry 285 kg payload to 60 km but it cannot carry payloads greater than 285 even when you are ready to sacrifice more range.

Prahaar can hit targets at ranges much less than 60km.

 

[The Deterrent]

Wrong again.
The missile can carry a 200 kg payload to a range of 170km whereas it can carry 285 kg payload to 60 km but it cannot carry payloads greater than 285 even when you are ready to sacrifice more range.

Prahaar can hit targets at ranges much less than 60km.

Oh God, not this range vs. payload thing again!
How exactly do you propose this "payload variation" at the battlefield? Keep extra warheads? Or maybe a few higher-payload missiles?
For 60km and lesser, MBRLs are enough.

Here is the thing, the solid fuel motors can't be shut down once ignited, so a range envelope (minimum range(highest apogee) to maximum range(lowest apogee)) is defined at the development stage, according to which the manoeuvrability, angle of altimeters etc is decided. At very less ranges, you are looking at pretty high apogees, higher turn rates and greater angle of attack. So you reach a couple of limits, beyond which the missile is not designed to operate.

 

[kurup]

Maybe u need to visit pak's missile tech thread to gain some knowledge.
The primary range of yr missile is 60 km as said in thread.

I remember having the same conversation with you and @AhaseebA .

Maybe you should read more about pakistani missiles yourself .

https://defence.pk/threads/nasr-vs-parhaar-first-detailed-analysis.272858/page-6#post-4676429

 

[Umair Nawaz]

I remember having the same conversation with you and @AhaseebA .

Maybe you should read more about pakistani missiles yourself .

https://defence.pk/threads/nasr-vs-parhaar-first-detailed-analysis.272858/page-6#post-4676429

so by this its 40-60 kg warhead still way better then 280kg.

 

[kurup]

so by this its 40-60 kg warhead still way better then 280kg.

Why so ??

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Why so ??

The very first post of him says this from link u posted.

 

[kurup]

The very first post of him says this from link u posted.

From the first post on this thread .

The missile is capable of carrying various types of conventional warhead of approx. 200 Kg

But my question is why is a 60 kg warhead better than a 200kg as you claimed ??