India could strike Pakistan with nuclear weapons first to pre-empt attack

[Indian wonk]

Modi post 2020 will give up on NFU entirely possible.

 

[kabooter_maila]

"That is another grave miscalculation that is emerging out of Indian self-deception"
INDIAS calculation where always right. You knows it better than any other country.

Of course, we know it better than any other country. That's why we are able to give sleepless nights to a nasty enemy nine times bigger than us. We really know your psyche, in and out. But you need certainly more to know that.

 

[Flying Man]

Of course, we know it better than any other country. That's why we are able to give sleepless nights to a nasty enemy nine times bigger than us. We really know your psyche, in and out. But you need certainly more to know that.

You think so...even US can't give us sleepless nights. These are your illusions. You should better know by now what happens if you play with your nasty and powerful enemy who is 9 times bigger. Or ask a 5 year old kid...he will enlighten you...don't be a keyboard warrior.

 

[Daghalodi]

Pakistanis and indians are so keen on using nukes as first stike policy and all that worthless blabbing.I hope they can understand the consequences of nuclear war.

 

[YeBeWarned]

another Attention seeker from our Neighborhood , Come on guys wake up both countries using half of their stockpile will obliterate the region and its weather .. million will die and Billions will suffer for another hundreds of year .

 

[BetterPakistan]

and as usual India nuke will fail miserably.

 

[NakedLunch]

To use Nuclear Weapons in a Pak-India conflict would be political suicide.

Maybe. It may even be an existential suicide but then what about Israel's Samson Option? As far as I know not a single Western country targets Israel with nuclear weapons yet Israel has every major western capital as a target for its nuclear weapons. To what end? What military advantage does the Samson option give to Israel. It is assured suicide for millions of Jews, yet the option not only exists but has the Israelis assure the world that they will use it if need be even though they understand the consequences of their actions. If you think the Samson option is a myth then there is nothing I can do about that, but if you think it is real, then where does your nuclear theory go then?

 

[Mrc]

No first use is an illusion any ways... no body actually counts on that

 

[Paranoid Android]

Okay, supah powah india is not a minion, she is an equal partner of Uncle Sam and his minions! Nevertheless a partner of Uncle Sam in all his mischiefs. Are you happy now?

You have poor knowledge of history..India has always maintained neutral relationship with both east & west..Statistics says that & apex strategy makers of those both countries are very well aware about that..
Moreover Bangladesh is our satellite state...This suits appropriately to what you have just said..

 

[kabooter_maila]

You think so...even US can't give us sleepless nights. These are your illusions. You should better know by now what happens if you play with your nasty and powerful enemy who is 9 times bigger. Or ask a 5 year old kid...he will enlighten you...don't be a keyboard warrior.

I don't need to ask any one! I can see grim Indian face, struggling forces, murderers and criminal politicians becoming national leaders, and desperate diplomatic moves aimed at avoiding getting isolated and being left out. I am already talking with someone having a brain of 5-year old kid.

 

[Flying Man]

I don't need to ask any one! I can see grim Indian face, struggling forces, murderers and criminal politicians becoming national leaders, and desperate diplomatic moves aimed at avoiding getting isolated and being left out. I am already talking with someone having a brain of 5-year old kid.

Kid...That is a problem you need to find a solution for. What you say now is what we see when we look west. May be we are looking to the same direction but you are blaming us. Do you think we need desperate diplomatic move? Do we need to wait outside the white house for a week and come back ? No....Never...
Every country has a place in the world order. Stay there...then people respect you..
You need to enlighten yourself.

 

[Laozi]

India could strike Pakistan with nuclear weapons if threatened, says expert
INDIA Updated: Mar 21, 2017 20:02 IST

• India-Pakistan conflict could escalate into ‘nuclear exchange’, says US General

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  US senator hints Pakistan a troublemaker, says India’s neighbourhood makes stability challenging

Relations between the neighbours are at the lowest since a string of militant attacks on Indian military installations which New Delhi blames on Pakistan-based militants. India last year claimed to have carried out surgical strikes against militant launch pads in Azad Kashmir but Islamabad denied any such operation took place.

In February, both countries extended a bilateral pact, dealing with reducing the risk of nuclear weapon-related accidents including a war, for a period of five years. India hand Pakistan have fought three full-fledged wars besides the 1999 Kargil hostilities.

As evidence for his theory, Narang cited recent remarks and policy prescriptions from leading Indian strategists and a book by Shivshankar Menon, who oversaw nuclear targeting for India as National Security Adviser to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Narang also quoted Menon as telling Ajai Shukla, a defense analyst with Business Standard, that “India’s nuclear doctrine has far greater flexibility than it gets credit for”.

To buttress his theory, Narang cited this para from Menon’s book, “Choices: Inside the Making of Indian Foreign Policy”, which was released in November 2016 but has found a new celebrity recently, to build his case: “There is a potential gray area as to when India would use nuclear weapons first against another NWS (nuclear weapon state). Circumstances are conceivable in which India might find it useful to strike first, for instance, against an NWS that had declared it would certainly use its weapons, and if India were certain that adversary’s launch was imminent.”

New Delhi declared its no-first use strike policy in 2003, undertaking to not start a nuclear war in a neighborhood packed with nuclear actors Pakistan and its hermetically stoic backer China, countries that had fought wars with India.



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But it set aside some key exceptions, gray areas, such as reserving the right to strike first if it came under biological or chemical attack, that may have left the door open, for arguments sake, to a latter day switch to a more aggressive stand.

Under its earlier policy India had hoped to use the threat of “massive counter-value retaliation” — read civilian targets such as urban populations mostly — disproportionate in intensity to the attack, as a disincentive for a nuclear attack against it.

But as Pakistan, which has the world’s fastest growing nuclear arsenal, segued to smaller battlefield nuclear weapons, called tactical weapons, to offset Indian superiority in conventional warfare, New Delhi was forced to rethink its choices.

There are also worries in India that New Delhi might not have full information on the whereabouts of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and tactical warheads that are much smaller and mounted on lorries to be driven around to escape detection through satellite imagery.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...says-expert/story-P5N8QuKOldxAJ9UPjboijM.html

 

[Taimoor Khan]

India "no first strike" doctrine which it has sold to the world historically got the same value as its claim to be a secular state.

These doctrines are worth the paper they are written on. That is why Pakistan never officially mention its nuclear policy. We will use it when we deem necessary.

What this article actually tell us, there is rude awakening within Indian policy makers that Pakistan first strike can actually wipe them out from existence, hence the shift from "no first strike". For India, now, its also the case of "use it or lose it".

 

[Jacob Martin]

Now this one takes the cake

India deploys half of her army on border with Pakistan, almost everything pointed out at Pakistan whereas officially 'China is the primary enemy' and these people have the guts to call others paranoid,

Ah India, 'bravery' is thy second name!!

"China is deploying its navy in Gawadar, 'Paranoid' Pakistanis and Chinese are conspiring against us. Same way as 'paranoid' Nepalis, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis are conspiring against us together with China. Oh America...oh dear America where are thou? Can you stop all these 'paranoid' countries? We even rent you our land for that".

Whatever you wrote makes sense to you, I am sure. But since it has nothing to do either with what I wrote, or about the topic of the thread, I suggest you let it rest.

 

[Flying Man]

Now this one takes the cake

India deploys half of her army on border with Pakistan, almost everything pointed out at Pakistan whereas officially 'China is the primary enemy' and these people have the guts to call others paranoid,

Ah India, 'bravery' is thy second name!!

"China is deploying its navy in Gawadar, 'Paranoid' Pakistanis and Chinese are conspiring against us. Same way as 'paranoid' Nepalis, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis are conspiring against us together with China. Oh America...oh dear America where are thou? Can you stop all these 'paranoid' countries? We even rent you our land for that".

That is not half of our army...just 1/10th.
Other countries except one, has no time for conspiracy theories against India. Gawadar is with in our reach...We may create special seals to deal with it.
You can be a good script writer.carry on
We lose no sleep about what you do.

India "no first strike" doctrine which it has sold to the world historically got the same value as its claim to be a secular state.

These doctrines are worth the paper they are written on. That is why Pakistan never officially mention its nuclear policy. We will use it when we deem necessary.

What this article actually tell us, there is rude awakening within Indian policy makers that Pakistan first strike can actually wipe them out from existence, hence the shift from "no first strike". For India, now, its also the case of "use it or lose it".

Yea...you are living in fools paradise to believe that you can wipe India out...go and get a job.