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ABAD Khan stands on the edge of his fields in Nowshera Virkan, a town known for its aromatic, long-grain basmati rice to the west of Gujranwala, looking over his new crop on a September afternoon. The overall average temperatures have dropped but the day feels quite warm — something the basmati growers like Khan should be worried about. To them a warmer weather means early flowering of their rice plants and seed fertility issues.

Some parts of the basmati belt along the Chenab are already under pest attack. The attack, according to him, has so far been observed only in small patches along the basmati belt — Narowal, Sialkot, Gujranwala, Hafizabad and Sheikhupura. But he feels it could spread because the pest is resisting the insecticides like anything and multiple sprays in some areas have failed to kill the insect.

However, climate change and pest attacks are not the only worries for him. India has applied for exclusive GI (Geographical Indications) tag for its basmati rice at the European Union’s official registry, the Council on Quality Schemes for Agricultural Products and Food Stuffs. The EU subsequently published the application of India in its official journal on September 11, showing basmati rice as an India-origin product despite the fact that similar rice is widely produced in Pakistan. To protect its own brand of basmati, Pakistan has a few weeks before December 10 to challenge the Indian claim.

“If the Indians managed to secure GI tag from the EU for their basmati crop, it will be devastating for our growers and exporters,” Khan asserts, elaborating that the drop in the basmati rice exports will result in lower prices for the farmers. “Once India gets the exclusive GI tag, we will not be able to market our rice in the international market as basmati; we would be wholly dependent on the Indian firms and brands to sell our product in the global markets.”

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At present, India has 65 per cent and Pakistan 35pc share in the world basmati rice trade.

A GI is a sign used on agricultural products that have specific geographical origin and possess qualities or reputation that are due to that origin. Geographical Indications are part of the intellectual property rights (IPRs). GI tags help boost sales and exports as the geographical limitation on production and official recognition of historical and cultural significance increase the demand and create a legacy.

The news of India staking an exclusive claim to basmati rice has also shocked Pakistan’s rice exporters as basmati rice exports fetch between $800 million and $1 billion a year. “Pakistan exports basmati rice to many countries. A chunk of our basmati exports is shipped to the EU countries. Should India secure the GI tag for its basmati rice, the consumers will start preferring the [recognised] Indian product. It will drastically harm our market share in EU. Hence, the issue is of crucial importance for us,” says Sameeullah, a rice exporter from Lahore.

“India cannot have exclusive right on the basmati trademark when it is a joint heritage. A GI tag is granted on the basis of geographical origin of an agricultural product and qualities associated with the soil of that region or territory,” he asserts, contending that Pakistan’s rice is way better than India’s in every respect.

Khan says India’s move has come as a surprise to him. “Pakistan had an understanding with India that the two countries would jointly apply for the exclusive GI tag because basmati rice is our shared heritage since it is grown for centuries by both of them in areas along the Chenab. GI has more to do with soil than history, on the basis of which India has applied for exclusive tag from the EU. Our case for exclusive GI tag for our basmati rice is much stronger than India’s.”

Both India and Pakistan had fought jointly in the late 1990s and the early 2000s to foil the attempt by a Texas-based company, RiceTec, to patent basmati rice in the US. After losing the battle, the company named its rice brand as Texmati.

Khan is critical of the government’s indifference towards growers’ plight. “It is unfortunate that our government has never shown interest in protecting our heritage. When India tried to make a case for GI tagging for its super basmati rice some years back, our farmers took the initiative under the banner of the Basmati Growers Association and challenged the move in Indian courts in Chennai and New Delhi. Our government never supported us financially or technically nor did it provide us legal support. Resultantly, we lost our case in the Chennai court. We are unable to pursue the other case in New Delhi because we do not have resources to pay for the lawyers’ fee and other expenses. You cannot fight such issues alone; you always need government’s help in every possible way.”

Sameeullah is also not happy with the government. “It is not that the government was unaware of the New Delhi’s plans. India had been working on it for many years and already declared Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and (some districts of) Jammu and Kashmir as part of its basmati belt. We had our Geographical Indications (Registration and Protection) Act 2020 passed from the parliament in March this year to claim our right to the geographical origin for our products. But since then no movement has so far been made to operationalise the law. Even our trade representative in Brussels has not done anything so far.”

With less than 70 days left to challenge and prepare Pakistan’s case, we may soon be gifting Pakistan’s basmati rice to the Indian firms if the government doesn’t change its behaviour and take immediate action to file objections to India’s claim for exclusive GI tag.

Published in Dawn, October 4th, 2020

https://www.dawn.com/news/1583144/footprints-basmati-battle
 
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Pakistan to challenge Indian’s claim to basmati GI tag


ISLAMABAD: Taking serious notice of the Indian move of demanding exclusive rights of claiming Geographical Indication (GI) tag to Basmati rice in the European Union (EU), Pakistan has decided to oppose the application soon.

During a meeting of the Senate Standing Committee on Commerce, Intellectual Property Organisation (IPO) Chairman Mujeeb Ahmed Khan informed that Pakistan is preparing its objection to the said Indian Application and will be submitted within the stipulated time frame.

The meeting was attended by Senators Mir Kabeer Ahmad Muhammad Shahi, Zeeshan Khanzada, Nuzhat Sadiq, Dilawar Khan, Rana Mehmood ul Hassan, Advisor to Prime Minister for Commerce, Secretary Commerce and other senior officials of relevant departments.

He said India has applied for GI tag in European Union for BASMATI rice under Article 50(2)(a) of Regulation (EU) No 1151/2012 of the European Parliament and of the Council on quality schemes for agricultural products and foodstuffs, mentioned in the EU official journal dated September 11, 2020.

According to Mujeeb Ahmed, the Indian application mentions Basmati rice as an Indian origin product, despite the fact that similar rice is widely produced in Pakistan. The application is based on half-truth and frivolous grounds having no legal and factual backing. Pakistan exports 500,000 to 700,000 tons of basmati rice to various countries. Out of that, 200,000 to 250,000 tones are shipped to European countries. The European Union is a massive destination for local rice exporters and therefore it is a crucial issue for Pakistan.

EU regulation No 972/2006 of June 29, 2006, lays down special rules for imports of Basmati rice and a transitional control system for determining their origin has recognized Basmati as a joint product of Pakistan and India. Basmati is already recognized as a product of both India and Pakistan under the said European Regulation and its Duty-Free Regime, making it illegal for India to claim exclusive rights of Basmati in the EU.

According to EU’s official journal, any country can oppose the application for registration of a name pursuant to Article 10 and Article 50(2) (a) of Regulation (EU) No 1151/2012 of the European Parliament and of the Council on quality schemes for agricultural products and foodstuffs within three months from the date of publication.

On Tuesday, the Ministry of Commerce, according to officials, has also held a meeting on the same subject to discuss the filling of objections in the EU besides taking other steps regarding protecting Pakistani products as per the GI law made by the government this year.

Meanwhile, Committee Chairman Senator Mirza Muhammad Afridi also directed the officials of the ministry and IPO to immediately respond to the Indian application as the move may damage Pakistani exports.

Discussing another agenda of the meeting regarding smuggling, he said that the illegal trade has reduced substantially due to effective measures for its eradication which has supported the local industry and would be instrumental for promoting economic activities and businesses in the country. He expressed these views while presiding over the SSC on Commerce & Trade here at Parliament House on Tuesday.

Afridi appreciated the measures taken in this regard and said that the sick units need to be facilitated to ensure their revival. The committee was apprised about the problems faced by the farmers due to inadequate prices of tomato and onion despite good production during the current season.


The committee was also briefed about the steps being taken for exploring new markets for dates, tax evasion on computers, laptops and other IT equipment, as well as the issues of under-invoicing.

The chairman and members of the committee said that the basic purpose is to protect the local industry and its production for the overall progress of the country. Senator Mir Kabeer Ahmad Muhammad Shahi said that due to the import of the fruits and vegetable from neighbouring countries, the local farmers from Balochistan do not get adequate prices of apple, grapes, onion and tomatoes. He said that the ministry of commerce and trade should take measures for the protection of local farmers and the utilization of local production before importing such items.

The Ministry of Commerce secretary assured the committee that the issues would be resolved in collaboration with the ministry of food security and the committee would be apprised accordingly.

Senator Dilawar Hussain, while talking about Afghan Transit Trade, said that due to the deficiency of trackers, there is huge pressure on transit points. He asserted that an appropriate solution to this should be sorted out.

Afridi said that trade is a backbone of the national economy and an appropriate strategy should be followed to promote business activities in the country.

Advisor to the Prime Minister on Commerce Abdul Razzak Dawod apprised the committee that State Bank of Pakistan has been approached for provision of an easy loan through small and medium industries and consultation process for the IT sector is in progress, which will bear positive results.

Secretary Commerce informed the Committee that E-Commerce policy has been introduced and the committee in its next meeting will be informed about a framework in this regard.

Chairman of the committee appreciated these measures, however, he emphasized that sick units need to be supported so as to cater to the local requirements and as well as the export orientation from such units.

Senator Dilawar Khan informed the committee that the Trade and Development Authority (TDAP) could not hold even a single meeting so far. He further informed that he had sought different details from TDAP which have not been provided yet. Senator Mirza Afridi said that TDAP is an important organisation, its board should hold regular meetings to proceed on different issues and the people of Pakistan should have access to information.

He further said that question has been raised about Trade and Commercial Attaché posted in different countries.

He said that Pakistan produces high-quality tobacco. Trade and commercial attaché should improve their efficiency and awareness must be created about Pakistan products in foreign countries.

The committee insisted on the provision of facilities and capacity building of the tobacco farmers in Mardan, Charsadda and Swabi districts.

The committee was further informed that a project in collaboration with Swabi University has moved ahead. Senator Dilawar Khan emphasised that all the stakeholders must be taken into confidence as quality tobacco of the country is produced in these areas and national exchequer gets taxes of worth billions of rupees.

About the export of the dates, the committee was informed that 70pc of dry dates were exported to India and due to suspension of trade with India, farmers have to face huge losses.

However, efforts are being made to explore alternative markets for export of the dates and different countries have been contacted in this regard. The chairman of the committee emphasized that these efforts must be expedited to avoid losses to the farmers.

Senator Rana Mehmood ul Hassan suggested that a policy for installation of small sugar mills should be introduced to promote compatibility in the market. Secretary Commerce informed the committee that such a proposal is already under consideration in different ministries.

The committee was also apprised about clearance of containers at Port Qasim as well as money laundering issues in the country.


 
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ABAD Khan stands on the edge of his fields in Nowshera Virkan, a town known for its aromatic, long-grain basmati rice to the west of Gujranwala, looking over his new crop on a September afternoon. The overall average temperatures have dropped but the day feels quite warm — something the basmati growers like Khan should be worried about. To them a warmer weather means early flowering of their rice plants and seed fertility issues.

Some parts of the basmati belt along the Chenab are already under pest attack. The attack, according to him, has so far been observed only in small patches along the basmati belt — Narowal, Sialkot, Gujranwala, Hafizabad and Sheikhupura. But he feels it could spread because the pest is resisting the insecticides like anything and multiple sprays in some areas have failed to kill the insect.

However, climate change and pest attacks are not the only worries for him. India has applied for exclusive GI (Geographical Indications) tag for its basmati rice at the European Union’s official registry, the Council on Quality Schemes for Agricultural Products and Food Stuffs. The EU subsequently published the application of India in its official journal on September 11, showing basmati rice as an India-origin product despite the fact that similar rice is widely produced in Pakistan. To protect its own brand of basmati, Pakistan has a few weeks before December 10 to challenge the Indian claim.

“If the Indians managed to secure GI tag from the EU for their basmati crop, it will be devastating for our growers and exporters,” Khan asserts, elaborating that the drop in the basmati rice exports will result in lower prices for the farmers. “Once India gets the exclusive GI tag, we will not be able to market our rice in the international market as basmati; we would be wholly dependent on the Indian firms and brands to sell our product in the global markets.”

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

At present, India has 65 per cent and Pakistan 35pc share in the world basmati rice trade.

A GI is a sign used on agricultural products that have specific geographical origin and possess qualities or reputation that are due to that origin. Geographical Indications are part of the intellectual property rights (IPRs). GI tags help boost sales and exports as the geographical limitation on production and official recognition of historical and cultural significance increase the demand and create a legacy.

The news of India staking an exclusive claim to basmati rice has also shocked Pakistan’s rice exporters as basmati rice exports fetch between $800 million and $1 billion a year. “Pakistan exports basmati rice to many countries. A chunk of our basmati exports is shipped to the EU countries. Should India secure the GI tag for its basmati rice, the consumers will start preferring the [recognised] Indian product. It will drastically harm our market share in EU. Hence, the issue is of crucial importance for us,” says Sameeullah, a rice exporter from Lahore.

“India cannot have exclusive right on the basmati trademark when it is a joint heritage. A GI tag is granted on the basis of geographical origin of an agricultural product and qualities associated with the soil of that region or territory,” he asserts, contending that Pakistan’s rice is way better than India’s in every respect.

Khan says India’s move has come as a surprise to him. “Pakistan had an understanding with India that the two countries would jointly apply for the exclusive GI tag because basmati rice is our shared heritage since it is grown for centuries by both of them in areas along the Chenab. GI has more to do with soil than history, on the basis of which India has applied for exclusive tag from the EU. Our case for exclusive GI tag for our basmati rice is much stronger than India’s.”

Both India and Pakistan had fought jointly in the late 1990s and the early 2000s to foil the attempt by a Texas-based company, RiceTec, to patent basmati rice in the US. After losing the battle, the company named its rice brand as Texmati.

Khan is critical of the government’s indifference towards growers’ plight. “It is unfortunate that our government has never shown interest in protecting our heritage. When India tried to make a case for GI tagging for its super basmati rice some years back, our farmers took the initiative under the banner of the Basmati Growers Association and challenged the move in Indian courts in Chennai and New Delhi. Our government never supported us financially or technically nor did it provide us legal support. Resultantly, we lost our case in the Chennai court. We are unable to pursue the other case in New Delhi because we do not have resources to pay for the lawyers’ fee and other expenses. You cannot fight such issues alone; you always need government’s help in every possible way.”

Sameeullah is also not happy with the government. “It is not that the government was unaware of the New Delhi’s plans. India had been working on it for many years and already declared Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and (some districts of) Jammu and Kashmir as part of its basmati belt. We had our Geographical Indications (Registration and Protection) Act 2020 passed from the parliament in March this year to claim our right to the geographical origin for our products. But since then no movement has so far been made to operationalise the law. Even our trade representative in Brussels has not done anything so far.”

With less than 70 days left to challenge and prepare Pakistan’s case, we may soon be gifting Pakistan’s basmati rice to the Indian firms if the government doesn’t change its behaviour and take immediate action to file objections to India’s claim for exclusive GI tag.

Published in Dawn, October 4th, 2020

https://www.dawn.com/news/1583144/footprints-basmati-battle
Pak officials have been sleeping on this issue (like many other issues where Indians are robbing our stuff). For decades Indian importers have been importing Pak basmati rice in raw form to Dubai, process and polish it and then sell it in packets with 'Produced in India' label all over the world. So much so that one silly Indian minister once claimed that Indians would block all Pakistani rice exports. But thanks God, some Pak officials came into action to stop that exploitation. Same applies to natural salt. Indias have no salt mine in their country. They were importing natural salt from Pakistan at whole sale, grind it, pack it, and then export it to the whole world with 'Highest Quality Hamalian Natural Salt' from India. I don't know when we will stop fighting with ourselves and focus on our national affairs.
 
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It is high time that Pakistan took apart the whole aspect of any relation that we have with india. Register the Rice products as an independent brand of Pakistan. Patent it and sell it under this title. Pakistani businesses ought to come together and form alliances, coupled with Government initiative to brand Pakistani products. Fight these lowlives at the time and place of our chosing and make sure that Pakistan is identified independently and comprehensively as a nation and culture on its own.
 
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Pak officials have been sleeping on this issue (like many other issues where Indians are robbing our stuff). For decades Indian importers have been importing Pak basmati rice in raw form to Dubai, process and polish it and then sell it in packets with 'Produced in India' label all over the world. So much so that one silly Indian minister once claimed that Indians would block all Pakistani rice exports. But thanks God, some Pak officials came into action to stop that exploitation. Same applies to natural salt. Indias have no salt mine in their country. They were importing natural salt from Pakistan at whole sale, grind it, pack it, and then export it to the whole world with 'Highest Quality Hamalian Natural Salt' from India. I don't know when we will stop fighting with ourselves and focus on our national affairs.

I know exactly what you are saying, we are oblivious to these matters, but at least the present government is waking up, as according to the post by @Jazzbot

Around 10 years ago, I was discussing with a friends dad, on a visit to Karachi, the same thing you mentioned. He was a high up in the FBR in Karachi region, and his opinion was that once we export it, they can do what they want, label what they want, he just did not understand the true ramifications of these issues.

By being associated with quality items, the image of the country benefits in so many other ways, it contributes to soft power.
 
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India’s Basmati claim to be challenged


06 Oct 2020



Adviser to the Prime Minister on Commerce Razak Dawood categorically said that Pakistan will vehemently oppose India’s application in the European Union and restrain India from obtaining exclusive GI tag of Basmati rice. — PID Twitter/File


Adviser to the Prime Minister on Commerce Razak Dawood categorically said that Pakistan will vehemently oppose India’s application in the European Union and restrain India from obtaining exclusive GI tag of
Basmati rice. — PID Twitter



ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has decided to file its opposition in the European Union in a reply to India’s claim of Geographical Indication (GI) tag of Basmati rice.

This was decided during a meeting chaired by Adviser to the Prime Minister on Commerce Razak Dawood.

The meeting was attended by Secretary Commerce, Chairman, Intellectual Property Organisation (IPO-Pakistan), representatives of Rice Exporters Association of Pakistan (Reap) and the legal fraternity.

An official statement issued after the meeting said that Reap representatives were of the view that Pakistan is a major grower and producer of Basmati rice and India’s claim for exclusivity is unjustified.

Mr. Dawood categorically said that Pakistan will vehemently oppose India’s application in the European Union and restrain India from obtaining exclusive GI tag of Basmati rice. He further supported the concerns of Reap and relevant stakeholders and ensured that their claim for Basmati rice as GI will be protected.

It is pertinent to mention that India submitted an application in the EU claiming sole ownership of Basmati rice, falsely misrepresenting its exclusivity.


Published in Dawn, October 6th, 2020
 
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Like I’ve said, India is a greedy, petty, insecure and expansionist State that will lie, cheat and deceive, and then some of the Indians on this forum start wailing, crying and whining about why Indian sources aren’t considered credible or respected on this forum.
 
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Like I’ve said, India is a greedy, petty, insecure and expansionist State that will lie, cheat and deceive, and then some of the Indians on this forum start wailing, crying and whining about why Indian sources aren’t considered credible or respected on this forum.
And still, the proud Pakistanis will continue to post the same un-credible sources shamelessly...
As far as Basmati rice is concerned, it's GI should not be solely accorded to India.
 
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Like I’ve said, India is a greedy, petty, insecure and expansionist State that will lie, cheat and deceive, and then some of the Indians on this forum start wailing, crying and whining about why Indian sources aren’t considered credible or respected on this forum.

Indians are all of that and much more. But, what I have never understood is why Pakistanis hold this deranged idea that by somehow engaging and dealing with Indians, that they somehow moderate their hatred s and anti-Pakistan agenda.Despite the breakdown of relations and India’s persistent attempt to malign, degrade and destroy Pakistan, Pakistanis continue to watch Bollywood films, listen to Indian music and roll the red carpet to Indian, especially on this forum, even as it becomes abundantly clear that these Indians are only posting with the unquestionable objective of maligning Pakistan and furthering a misinformation campaign.

As an outsider looking-in, at this India-Pakistan relations, this dynamic has always puzzled me. There has to be a reason why Pakistanis pander to and in the process humiliate themselves to Indians. I just haven’t found a good explanation, so far. Perhaps, there’s a good explanation somewhere.
 
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Its very simple, common man didn't had hatred with each other, so it is very easy to cosy up with each other, example people living in foreign countries.
But when these people move to politics they slowly start to change, cause India pak fighting is more beneficial to their careers,.

But now the situation is changing, now the common man is also taught to hate each other country. So I guess this small peace overtures will. E gone when next generation ties over, we will be like Korea countries.
 
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Indians are all of that and much more. But, what I have never understood is why Pakistanis hold this deranged idea that by somehow engaging and dealing with Indians, that they somehow moderate their hatred s and anti-Pakistan agenda.Despite the breakdown of relations and India’s persistent attempt to malign, degrade and destroy Pakistan, Pakistanis continue to watch Bollywood films, listen to Indian music and roll the red carpet to Indian, especially on this forum, even as it becomes abundantly clear that these Indians are only posting with the unquestionable objective of maligning Pakistan and furthering a misinformation campaign.

As an outsider looking-in, at this India-Pakistan relations, this dynamic has always puzzled me. There has to be a reason why Pakistanis pander to and in the process humiliate themselves to Indians. I just haven’t found a good explanation, so far. Perhaps, there’s a good explanation somewhere.

I for one, in the mid 1990s, at the height kashmir killings, stopped watching Indian movies across the board, threw away all my music collection and stopped listening to modern Indian music.

But, I still believe we can't stop communicating, not on individual level nor at national level, because you can't shut yourself off into a cocoon, it is extremely unwise.

I still listen to indian classical music, although I'm uncomfortable with that term, because certain things are also my heritage, they are cross regional. Because India took the name India, it's somewhat problematic. Still, Most of my friends are indian, and are very close and dear to me. Although I understand your viewpoint and mostly agree, but, I think it is wise to remain open and continue talking.
 
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Indian Basmati rice is sub-par compared to Pakistani basmati rice. This is why they buy and re-sell our rice under their own brands in the UAE.

We should get on this as well. Pakistan should brand its own rice, just as we have Pink salt.
In the UK, Pakistani basmati rice is around 50% more expensive than the Indian varieties. But, they use either Indian type names or Pakistani type names to cater to both, but when you read the packaging, it's the same company.
Pakistani rice also is not widely available, and around 50% more expensive, what do you think people buy. We need to open more business schools to produce better traders.
 
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