India claims arrest of Indian Mujahideen operative

[bronxbull]

I would like to state that I am deeply suspicious of this. How is an Ansari being linked to this? Ansaris today are among the most secular minded people in the world. Our maternal grandad was a real Sufi and his religion was only kept to himself. Even to his daughters he told them it was good to pray but never forced them even though in those times everyone was forced. My fathers side too forced people and even now forced people to pray.

I believe this is false news to incriminate innocent Ansaris. It is a shame that Ansaris have done everything for India producing scientists, businessmen and great students but they are being treated as terrorists. I believe this is a massive lie perpetuated by the media.

Modern Ansaris are highly secular minded. They never behave like terrorists.

I do not believe this could be done by an Ansari. People are cooking up names. At least find a religious family like Sheikh or Alvi or something? People from Ansari family are very noble people. My mother is from that side. I can draw parallels to this situation and how another Ansari was framed on a false charge only to be released later. This is really, really unfair. I do not know if he is a terrorist or not.

Please Haviz,anyone can do anything.

Infact in Bihar,anyone can call themselves Khan,Shah or Ansari.

who is going to verify?

u r talking as if u r some Rockefeller or something?

 

[Roybot]

Why all this talk about Ansaris? Did people not see the name of the DSP, NIA?

Danish Ansari was also wanted by the Delhi Police in a terror-related case.

While talking to mediapersons, Deputy Superintendent of Police (DSP) of the NIA, Sarauddin Ansari, gave out the details of the arrest.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/centra...ndian-mujahideen-operative.html#ixzz2IsRTXBN2

A terrorist got nabbed by a patriotic Ansari. End of the story. Talk about looking at only one side of the coin

 

[OrionHunter]

Whole world and I still laugh @ Indians when they say IM is 90% foreign and ISI funded

He who laughs, lasts. So keep laughing!

And you say 'the whole world' is laughing? I ain't! I'm deadly serious! And so is the world except a few people like you who know squat about the workings of the IM and where they get their terror related funds from!

 

[RISING SUN]

@haviZsultan
All Ansari are not good. Now I am giving you my real example. Just check the name Mukhtar Ansari & his brother. They are the biggest **** on the face of the region. Even they have killed my distant relatives including a 16 year old cousin in Scarpio in broad daylight using automatic guns. they kill people just for money & ******* delusional kingdom. So don't shed these crocodile tears that All Ansari are all saint.
If you wanna see I am providing the links also.
Will mafia-turned politicians rule Uttar Pradesh again?
Dreaming of a ‘bhay-mukt-samaj’ under the leadership of dreaded mafia-turned-politicians like Mukhtar Ansari, Hari Shankar Tiwari, Kapil Muni Karwariya, Ateeq Ahmed, Raghuraj Pratap Singh alias Raja Bhaiyya, Shekhar Tiwari and Dhananjay Singh to name just a few, is nothing less than making a mockery of the democratic setup. With Uttar Pradesh assembly polls round the corner and mafia-turned-politicians going full throttle, the forthcoming elections are expected to come up with a lot of ‘fireworks’ and drama.

Neighbouring Bihar which was once termed as a safe haven for criminals by voting in favour of NDA has given a thumbs down to the mafia-raaj which had dominated the state for decades. Development mingled with the security factor not only dwarfed the mafias in Bihar but most of them face crushing defeat in the assembly polls.

However, UP is yet to take a lesson from the adjoining state. UP mafias still continue to win elections while sitting in jail. Mukhtar Ansari, Amar Mani Tripathi and Sushil Singh of Varanasi, who contested the 2007 assembly elections from the jail and registered a thumping victory.

Albeit, the issue is not linked with one political party as most of them are guilty of sheltering and promoting the goonda elements. In 2007, the BSP fielded as many as 131 candidates with criminal cases, out of which 63 emerged victorious. Over 125 Samajwadi Party candidates in the 2007 assembly polls had criminal cases against their names. More than one-fourth of the BJP candidates in the aforesaid polls faced criminal charges. Hari Shankar Tiwari arrived on the political scenario largely due to Congress. Around 100 Congress candidates in the 2007 assembly polls had criminal cases on them.

Not many would have yet forgotten the mysterious death of Indian Justice Party candidate of Jaunpur seat in the 2009 Lok Sabha election. Bahadur Lal Sonekar, the Indian Justice Party candidate from Jaunpur district was found hanging from a tree on April 14, 2009, around 500 metres away from his Dharnidharpur residence. The seat was eventually won by BSP candidate and mafia Dhananjay Singh.

Another shocking example was the murder of executive engineer Manoj Kumar Gupta by BSP legislator Shekhar Tiwari from Auraiya and his accomplices’ on December 24, 2008. A Lucknow special trail court sentenced Tiwari and his nine accomplices including three policemen to life imprisonment in the case.

The defeat of Hari Shankar Tiwari from Chillupur seat in the 2007 assembly elections came as a major surprise. Undisputed mafia of Gorakhpur belt, Tiwari in 1982 was amongst the first few Indian politicians to win the elections from the jail. The impact of Tiwari’s clout can be gauged from the fact that his several relatives represent the parliament, legislative council and local bodies. Tiwari’s son Bhism is an MP from Sant Kabir Nagar, his second son Vijay lost the Lok Sabha poll to Yogi Adityanath from Gorakhpur.

Prior to 2007 elections, a report was submitted before the Allahabad High Court mentioning that over one fourth of UP's representatives in Parliament, the state assembly and at the panchayat level have dubious records.
Of the 80 MPs of the SP, BSP, BJP and Congress, as many as 24 are facing 128 criminal cases.

Besides, there were 271 cases against 110 of the 402 MLAs. According to the state government report, the records of 21 criminal cases against MPs and MLAs were also missing.

The eastern part of UP had about 100 assembly seats in 27 districts where several leaders with controversial and longstanding criminal records have dominated politics. In 2007, SP has 25 MLAs, BSP 18, BJP 7 and Congress has only three legislators from the region.
Mukhtar Ansari, (Independent) who is facing the murder charge of BJP MLA from Ghazipur Krishnanand Rai, contested the assembly polls from the jail and won from Mau segment. In 2009, the Bahujan Samaj Party fielded him as party candidate from Varanasi parliamentary seat against BJP’s Murli Manohar Joshi. He lost the Lok Sabha by a margin of over 17,000 votes and was later expelled from the party. Ansari floated a new party Quami Ekta Dal and is expected to contest the 2012 assembly election under his party banner. His brother AfzalAnsari is the sitting BSP parliamentarian from Ghazipur seat.
Amar Mani Tripathi, a former state minister is more known for his involvement in the poetess Madhumita Shukla murder case. Convicted in the case, he is currently lodged in Varanasi jail. He has more than 30 cases against his name.

Raghuraj Pratap Singh alias Raja Bhaiyya (Independent and supported by Samajwadi Party/ Bharatiya Janata Party) with 35 criminal cases filed against him, won with an overwhelming margin of 53,000 votes (48%) over Shiv Prakash Mishra of the BSP from Kunda assembly seat of Pratapgarh district. He won the seat for the first time in 1993 and since then no candidate has been able to put a fight before him. In 2002, a BJP legislator had alleged Singh of arresting him. Under the Mayawati government in 2002, he was arrested at 3am. He was later declared a terrorist and booked under the charges of Prevention of Terrorism Act. After Mulayam Singh Yadav came in power in 2003, the POTA charges were withdrawn against him. He later became the Minister of Food and Civil Supplies and was provided Z-category security. The return of the BSP government in 2007 once again landed him in jail.

Badshah Singh (BSP), a don from Maudaha, is facing six criminal charges, including attempt to murder, extortion, and kidnapping. He won at Maudaha by defeating Apni Chiraiya Prajapati of the Samajwadi Party by a margin of 17,000 votes. Singh the labour minister in the Mayawati government was a period of nearly four years was recently removed from the state cabinet on corruption charges.

Named in nearly a dozen cases of heinous crime like murder, attempt to murder, kidnapping for ransom, extortion and dacoity, Akhilesh Singh is the independent legislator from Rae Bareli Sadar seat. A former Congress legislator, Singh was expelled from the party in 2003 after he switched alliance to Samajwadi Party.

Other mafia dons include DP Yadav (Rashtriya Parivartan Dal), the erstwhile liquor baron from western UP won from Sahaswan assembly segment, by a thin margin of 109 votes over Samajwadi Party incumbent Omkar Singh. His wife Umlesh too won the 2007 assembly election.

 

[bronxbull]

Tiwari and Ansari together in crime? UP indeed is a wierd place.

 

[haviZsultan]

Please Haviz,anyone can do anything.

Infact in Bihar,anyone can call themselves Khan,Shah or Ansari.

who is going to verify?

u r talking as if u r some Rockefeller or something?

If you can't verify who is Ansari and who is not then why did you call the 4 or 5 people Ansari. Every terrorist is an Ansari. This is an amazing logic. Ansaris supporting Muslim League of Quiad e azam before 47 and this is why we are being punished. Our Ansari family left there strongly believes in secularism.

@haviZsultan
All Ansari are not good. Now I am giving you my real example. Just check the name Mukhtar Ansari & his brother. They are the biggest **** on the face of the region. Even they have killed my distant relatives including a 16 year old cousin in Scarpio in broad daylight using automatic guns. they kill people just for money & ******* delusional kingdom. So don't shed these crocodile tears that All Ansari are all saint.

I never said all ansari are saints. Bad apples are everywhere. However I don't understand how Indian police find an Ansari in every terror related incident when our family is most tolerant one in parts taken by India like Lucknow and Hyderabad and even in Pakistan.

It is an effort to incriminate Ansaris as a whole. For anything that goes wrong an Ansari is to blame.

@haviZsultan You can believe whatever you want as you are clearly prejudiced about everything and call everyone is at fault except them. I actually see this quality of Pakistanis as added advantage of India.

Krait I am a critic of Pakistani policy and almost everything in Pakistan as it is my job to be critical and objective as a journalist. You are frustrated because I am criticizing India and this is intolerable to my Indian friends here.

I am a Secular or not. Well buddy, I can give you instances from my life which are sufficient enough to answer anyone.

How can someone in RSS be secular? Its the mindset and I have seen it. Also all this deflection and shifting blame to Pakistan. What does Pakistan have to do with this conversation. You said Samjhauta was off-topic on another thread now you are discussing Pakistan in an article about an Indian Mujahideen operative and my claim that a person has been framed.

Stop telling us what needs to be done. You are the one who said Owasi speech wasn't hate speech. I think you should research more on your nation first. You guys always try to finds fault in others and search for external hand in your own trouble.

I said it was wrong what he said and criticized him but I said as a person from a minority community people should sympathize with him. I would say the same for a Hindu in Pakistan who made such a speech. You are incapable of seeing the frustration that makes the person say something but rather focus on his words. It proves you cannot and will not solve these issues because you are reactive. The concentration on Pakistan proves it.

Its your belief vs court of law. I respect latter.

No it is the pointed fact that there is prejudice in the court of law and you belief that the court of law may be perfect. We Ansaris to some extent and our fathers side mostly saw it ourselves. Even the courts tell innocent people who lost families to go to Pakistan. Forget the police jailing innocents who complain about killings of innocents by RSS.

Also do note that each time an RSS member is blamed, past or present the RSS leadership supports the said member by claiming he cannot be a terrorist. RSS leader has even said no Hindu can ever be a terrorist. This is a funny statement as terrorism has no boundaries and anyone can become a fanatic. Particularly there is Babu Bajrangi who said he ripped out the wombs of pregnant women.

As for statistics, should I provide which nation is more safe for Muslims and where minorities gets better treatment ? Because I can tell you for sure, you can never win with numbers.

You attempt to shift the discussion to Pakistan is funny. How does alooo chaat appear in a conversation about pizza hut? It shows that there is no intention on the Indian side to solve a major issue. Instead the purpose is to deflect debate.

Kindly give some stats about number of terrorists from Pakistani Muslim community of around 180 million and number of terrorists from Indian Muslim community of 150 million.

Is that the best way to spend your time? Two things make debate pointless. 1) off-topic discussions and 2) comparisons.

Both should be avoided at all cost. You have done both. This is a comparison. Furthermore you do not know how statistics work or are collected. There is no data in this regard but there is data about terrorists in jail, incidences of terrorism and other information that helps policy makers, decision-makers and journalists do their job. People usually cannot tell who is a terrorist and how many there are in total or the number of sympathizers. If we did there would be no casualties in terrorism.

 

[KRAIT]

@haviZsultan You don't know about RSS. I was in RSS and I am secular. Its not just me, I know those 50 people who were and still are part of RSS but you guys don't know it. But I can't fore anything on you.

thing is no matter how much I tell you, you won't accept it. So you can have your version. I am not frustrated but actually bored with you passing judgements about an organization whom you don't know about it.

As for what you have seen, I have already said, I don't take your so called observation seriously. Sorry to say that.

As for off topic, you just painted an entire organization which is active before Independence. There are hard liners in large numbers and we know that too. As for comparison, you are just generalizing over treatment of minorities in India and if i just point at your country, you get riled up.

So kindly continue discussion with others. As I don't believe in fiction writers.