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Which general was that?Yea Another General dying in a Locally Built Helicopter will be a good advertisement.
I am curious: what is the amount of imported parts in the Tejas?Tfw you realise the amount of imported parts for the Tejas
Indians are too smart for that..... they will never buy "the tip of their spear" from USA! ... other items sure.India can easily ask for America anything and they will provide just to undermine Russian stuff, but I wonder if India will actually go for it.
You do realise that manufacturing involves a thousands of components, investing time and money in all of them are not economically feasibile because of which they are sourced from various suppliers, be it domestic and international. Over time indigenisation increases and thats what really matters.Tfw you realise the amount of imported parts for the Tejas
The only thing Indigenious in Tejas is the trailer that drags it and most recently another DRDO ingunity the stone weight that keeps it secured like a Donkey.Both Tejas and JF-17 are indigenous.
Tejas being indigenous to India and JF-17 being indigenous to China. ^_^
If they were smart they would have taken the F16/F18 deal, standardised their whole fleet and logistics and then built their own platforms based on these systems like how we did with the JF17Indian air force is compromised, it's fallen to the back of the line for Raphael's and won't get any more quickly
The Russian supply lines are compromised
Tejas is a lemon
And now they are looking at multiple expensive American options
Yes by losing its frontline fighter aircraft F16
Three live bombs fired by Pakistani fighter aircraft are still lying at LoC
In the 27 Feburary dogfight, the Pakistan Air Force fired a total of 11 H-4 bombs and 4 or 5 AMRAAM missiles, but not one could hit a target.www.google.com
I don't understand. You talk as if shooting down one plane constitutes winning World War III. As for 3 long years, who are you, and how come I have never met you or had a conversation with you? Do you think 688 posts gives you the ownership of the forum? Or the right to ask proprietorial questions? If you want to know what I have done in three long years, ask someone who has not been doing a Rip van Winkle for these same three years.@Windjammer @hussain0216 @Huffal
Guys no point in arguing with these numb nuts, don't forget they used to talk the same way before 27/2 not a day would go by where they wouldn't say that IAF was better in every way and we all know how that went .
I see the same trend now they've mustered up courage after 3 years to come back here and talk the same BS again what they don't know is whatever equipment they get will always be inferior to PAF that's how our doctrine works as said by ACM Haseeb Paracha " we will surprise you " and the element of surprise will be held by us yet again let them talk cause that's the only thing capable of.
@Tejaswithuttam @Joe Shearer @Sudarshan @Raj-Hindustani @Hephaestus
Guys i really appreciate you coming here and having the courage after 3 long years but please tell me one thing? Why is it that after all the rhetoric, when time comes it is totally opposite of what you say?
@Windjammer @hussain0216 @Huffal
Guys no point in arguing with these numb nuts, don't forget they used to talk the same way before 27/2 not a day would go by where they wouldn't say that IAF was better in every way and we all know how that went .
I see the same trend now they've mustered up courage after 3 years to come back here and talk the same BS again what they don't know is whatever equipment they get will always be inferior to PAF that's how our doctrine works as said by ACM Haseeb Paracha " we will surprise you " and the element of surprise will be held by us yet again let them talk cause that's the only thing capable of.
@Tejaswithuttam @Joe Shearer @Sudarshan @Raj-Hindustani @Hephaestus
Guys i really appreciate you coming here and having the courage after 3 long years but please tell me one thing? Why is it that after all the rhetoric, when time comes it is totally opposite of what you say?
What I don't understand is you never talking about the gross incompetence of your IAF to perform, first put your money where your mouth is then you can talk about all the glory you supposedly claim.I don't understand. You talk as if shooting down one plane constitutes winning World War III. As for 3 long years, who are you, and how come I have never met you or had a conversation with you? Do you think 688 posts gives you the ownership of the forum? Or the right to ask proprietorial questions? If you want to know what I have done in three long years, ask someone who has not been doing a Rip van Winkle for these same three years.
This is a forum Joe not middle school, what does my participation has to do with my question? Kindly just answer the question and don't beat around the bush.I don't understand. You talk as if shooting down one plane constitutes winning World War III. As for 3 long years, who are you, and how come I have never met you or had a conversation with you? Do you think 688 posts gives you the ownership of the forum? Or the right to ask proprietorial questions? If you want to know what I have done in three long years, ask someone who has not been doing a Rip van Winkle for these same three years.
And why should I talk about something that titillates you, when there are other fairly serious defence issues to be discussed and narrated? Have you even a clue as to what topics have held my attention? Were you present when I was discussing these with people with ten times your know-how and your insights?What I don't understand is you never talking about the gross incompetence of your IAF to perform, first put your money where your mouth is then you can talk about all the glory you supposedly claim.
What is your question? You had nothing relevant to ask, other than projecting a three year gap that never existed.What I don't understand is you never talking about the gross incompetence of your IAF to perform, first put your money where your mouth is then you can talk about all the glory you supposedly claim.
This is a forum Joe not middle school, what does my participation has to do with my question? Kindly just answer the question and don't beat around the bush.
I am here past 3 years with the same point of view and nothing changed.
A small incident of few minutes will not change anything. A small incident can win by anyone - just like playing (only 1 over) super over match and full match not played but claiming that we are a better team.
Even such small Incident, Ukraine can give much more tough time to Russia - example a ship sunk, or iran attack on the US military bases.
I highly appreciated PAF to showcase the reality check to IAF and work on the three major loopholes -
1- Unsure communication- thanks finally after this incident, our ministers were woke up and changed it.
2. Flying a beast with average range missile ( su 30 mki with AA missile with range 80 Km) - adversary F16 was flying with AA missile appox 110 km range,................... Too bad planning by IAF babus..... Finally, su 30 mki got the latest AA missile from the Russia with range 110 km.
3. Awacs aircrafts - we are very much sort in this area.... Still no improvement.
And, it doesn't meant that PAF is better... As said, Small incident of few minutes can win by anyone which planned better for particular that moment.
As I said before, the common narrative is if you can't beat them then join them but the Gangus survive on the belief, if you can't beat them then insult them.@Windjammer @hussain0216 @Huffal
Guys no point in arguing with these numb nuts, don't forget they used to talk the same way before 27/2 not a day would go by where they wouldn't say that IAF was better in every way and we all know how that went .
I see the same trend now they've mustered up courage after 3 years to come back here and talk the same BS again what they don't know is whatever equipment they get will always be inferior to PAF that's how our doctrine works as said by ACM Haseeb Paracha " we will surprise you " and the element of surprise will be held by us yet again let them talk cause that's the only thing capable of.
@Tejaswithuttam @Joe Shearer @Sudarshan @Raj-Hindustani @Hephaestus
Guys i really appreciate you coming here and having the courage after 3 long years but please tell me one thing? Why is it that after all the rhetoric, when time comes it is totally opposite of what you say?
I know that your manners don't exist, but you should stop short at bad-mouthing a dead man. You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.Poor Bipin was so terrified he refused to fly to Delhi and took a train.