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"India is superpoor, not superpower"
Sashi Tharoor

“It is still 80 percent nation and 50 percent democracy”
Ramachandra Guha

Last year, Indian writer, diplomat and politician Sashi Tharoor said "India is superpoor, not superpower". This week, Indian historian Ramachandra Guha went a step further and suggested that "India can not and must not become a superpower". Guha added that “India should not try to be a dominant and powerful country, but a less discontented nation.”

How poor is India? An Oxford study found last year that India has more poor than the poor population of all of sub-Saharan Africa. The latest World Bank data shows that India's poverty rate of 27.5%, based on India's current poverty line of $1.03 per person per day, is more than 10 percentage points higher than Pakistan's 17.2%. Assam (urban), Punjab and Himachal Pradesh are the only three Indian states with similar or lower poverty rates than Pakistan's.

“A superpower is a political, economic and military giant that has global reach,” Tharoor said. “The US still holds that position. It can fight a war in East Asia or any other part of the world. But I can’t imagine China or India doing that.”

Given the many ethnic, regional, religious and caste fault lines running through the length and breadth of India, there have long been questions raised about India's identity as a nation. Speaking about it, the US South Asia expert Stephen Cohen of Brookings Institution said, " But there is no all-Indian Hindu identity—India is riven by caste and linguistic differences, and Aishwarya Rai and Sachin Tendulkar are more relevant rallying points for more Indians than any Hindu caste or sect, let alone the Sanskritized Hindi that is officially promulgated".

Acknowledging the reality of deep fault lines in Indian polity, Guha says: "Because of its size and diversity, because of the continuing poverty of many of its citizens, because it is (in historical terms) still a relatively young nation state, and because it remains the most recklessly ambitious experiment in history, the Republic of India was never going to have anything but a rocky ride.

"National unity and democratic consolidation were always going to be more difficult to achieve than in smaller, richer, more homogeneous and older countries."

Mr Guha argues that democracy and nationhood in India face the following major challenges:

1. India is home to some of the world's fiercest insurgencies which Indian military is attempting to put down in northeast, northwest and central India.

2. Religious fanaticism is "receding but by no means vanquished." A "sullen peace rather than an even-tempered tranquility" prevails in the country

3. There is increasing corrosion of public institutions. Political parties are becoming family businesses; the police and bureaucracy are heavily politicized; corruption is rampant and patronage trumps competence

4. Natural resources are rapidly degrading and depleting as population grows, causing severe problems for the rural poor.

5. There is growing economic disparity. One example: India's richest man, Mukesh Ambani, is worth more than $20bn, and his new home is a 27-storey high, 400,000 sq ft building in Mumbai, where 60% of the people live in subhuman conditions in overcrowded slums.

I think both Tharoor and Guha make a lot of sense. The sad reality is that India is home to the world's largest population of poor, hungry and illiterates, a country where nearly two-thirds of the people still practice open defecation. India really needs to focus on solving these basic domestic problems rather than trying to become a superpower through a massive arms buildup.

Haq's Musings: Can Superpoor India Become a Superpower?
 
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How poor is India? An Oxford study found last year that India has more poor than the poor population of all of sub-Saharan Africa. The latest World Bank data shows that India's poverty rate of 27.5%, based on India's current poverty line of $1.03 per person per day, is more than 10 percentage points higher than Pakistan's 17.2%. Assam (urban), Punjab and Himachal Pradesh are the only three Indian states with similar or lower poverty rates than Pakistan's.

Wow Mr. Riaz Haq comparing India's poverty data of 27.5% of 2005 with 17.2% assumed data for Pakistan 2011. There is only a difference of 6 years :lol: :lol:

Here I present you eye opening site from world Bank Data.

World Bank, World Development Indicators - Google Public Data Explorer

Here you will also notice one thing that poverty in Pakistan increased by 4% between year 1999-2002 and same is being repeated since 2006. Below link gives 37.5% poverty data for Pakistan
Poverty in Pakistan | Pakistan Today | Latest news, Breaking news, Pakistan News, World news, business, sport and multimedia

According to Pakistans Planning Commission, poverty rate has jumped from 23.9 to 37.5 percent in the last three years. The commission has estimated that in 2005 there were 35.5 million people living below the poverty line but in 2008 their number increased to over 64 million. Consequently, unemployment has also increased.
 
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Funny how Pakistani poverty rate has not increased an inch from 17%(2007 figure) is last 5 yrs.


Even though

It is consistently clocking 2.5% growth for last few yrs...while its population growth too remains about 2%..

poverty increases in Pakistan by 10% every yr.

5 million people move BPL in Pakistan every yr.

Yet the needle dare not move form 17%..could this be reason??.

World Bank holds back its report on Pakistan poverty situation

"Sources said, the Finance Ministry and Planning Commission had shown some reservations over the World Bank's claims that poverty in Pakistan has gone up irrationally in the PPP rule against semi-military regime of Pervez Musharraf, when according to multinational donors like the World Bank itself, poverty in the country had declined substantially.
The WB report had substantial data to support its claims that poverty went irrationally up between 2008 and 2010 but the officials of Finance Ministry and Planning Commission showed their utmost anguish as to why the World Bank was showing upward trend in poverty in the PPP regime.

PPP came to power in 2008 and more than one international institutions have claimed that Pakistan has witnessed a sharp rise in poverty from 2008 to 2010.
They also mock the World Bank's claims that the government's poor performance on economic front has resulted in quick downfall in per capita income forcing a large number of Pakistanis to slip down from an average income group to below poverty line. The World Bank's report indicated that Pakistan is witnessing a troublesome phase on the economic front, as on one hand per capita income has shrunk while on the other inflation is getting out of control, thus adding to the woes of the common man.

According to sources, these claims of the World Bank irked the top government functionaries in the Finance and Planning Commission and they took the matter with the WB country office in Islamabad asking it not to release its report 2008 on poverty situation in Pakistan.
 
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Wow Mr. Riaz Haq comparing India's poverty data of 27.5% of 2005 with 17.2% assumed data for Pakistan 2011. There is only a difference of 6 years :lol: :lol:

Here I present you eye opening site from world Bank Data.

World Bank, World Development Indicators - Google Public Data Explorer

Here you will also notice one thing that poverty in Pakistan increased by 4% between year 1999-2002 and same is being repeated since 2006. Below link gives 37.5% poverty data for Pakistan
Poverty in Pakistan | Pakistan Today | Latest news, Breaking news, Pakistan News, World news, business, sport and multimedia

According to Pakistans Planning Commission, poverty rate has jumped from 23.9 to 37.5 percent in the last three years. The commission has estimated that in 2005 there were 35.5 million people living below the poverty line but in 2008 their number increased to over 64 million. Consequently, unemployment has also increased.

That's Riaz Haq for you. Even to give the $hit that he regularly posts a minor consideration, will be a big insult to even the worst of the analysts/economists..
 
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50 year old blogger rias hag runs away when confronted by solid facts by teenage Indian members. his carrier and life gone waste as he cannot mislead even teenage Indian members, what an incompetent and jerk propagandist!!! Not even worth of the money he gets to come up with such BS.
 
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India is minding its own business, we are not concerned about superpower status per se.
 
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Wow Mr. Riaz Haq comparing India's poverty data of 27.5% of 2005 with 17.2% assumed data for Pakistan 2011. There is only a difference of 6 years :lol: :lol:

Here I present you eye opening site from world Bank Data.

World Bank, World Development Indicators - Google Public Data Explorer

Here you will also notice one thing that poverty in Pakistan increased by 4% between year 1999-2002 and same is being repeated since 2006. Below link gives 37.5% poverty data for Pakistan
Poverty in Pakistan | Pakistan Today | Latest news, Breaking news, Pakistan News, World news, business, sport and multimedia

According to Pakistans Planning Commission, poverty rate has jumped from 23.9 to 37.5 percent in the last three years. The commission has estimated that in 2005 there were 35.5 million people living below the poverty line but in 2008 their number increased to over 64 million. Consequently, unemployment has also increased.

Nonsense!

I am quoting from the 2011 World Bank report titled "Perspectives on Poverty in India".

http://www-wds.worldbank.org/extern...d/PDF/574280PUB0Pers1351B0Extop0ID0186890.pdf

The report clearly shows that India's poverty rate of 27.5%, based on India's current poverty line of $1.03 per person per day, is more than 10 percentage points higher than Pakistan's 17.2%. Assam (urban), Punjab and Himachal Pradesh are the only three Indian states with similar or lower poverty rates than Pakistan's.

Here's a graph from the report:

India%2BPoverty%2BWB%2B2011.png
 
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“A superpower is a political, economic and military giant that has global reach,” Tharoor said. “The US still holds that position. It can fight a war in East Asia or any other part of the world. But I can’t imagine China or India doing that.”
if this is the real definition of super power..thank god we have not yet reached the super power status...
and as far as Sashi tharoor is concerned, this nerd forgets that he represents the same poor nation in which more than 50% of population cannot afford to use Airways as a mode of transportation yet he yells about his trip in cattle class(economy class).

to op:- did u Google an anti Indian article or just being self enlightened:what::what:
 
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