'India blocking China's entry into SAARC to retain supremacy'

[Umair Nawaz]

pakistan doesn't seem like a country in south asia. It's culture and beliefs are totally different than ours and other south asian countries.
pakistan is some middle east country in south asia.

hmm somebody has been watching our dramas lately. But thats truth and said so since the beginning but u people live in yr delusions.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Unlike you, India does not believe in a master slave relationship. SAARC was the brainchild of Bangladesh when it was ruled by a nationalist PM. Pakistan has no similarity with the culture in the Indian subcontinent. Ok, it had some, but it wishes to move West and I respect that. What China and Pakistan does behind closed doors is not my concern, but South Asian countries are together in this. With or without Pakistan.

Pakistan has never really fit in here. Maybe they'll have it better in the Arab coalition or a Central Asian Conference or something.

well dude yr being in kashmir can be said same way...... but i aint going to say this because yr also kashmiri.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

What exactly are these apprehensions that "all SA countries excluding Pakistan" have about China joining SAARC?

I don't know. Horus said so. I took his word the Pakistan is better off outside SAARC and dealing directly with China and other Central Asian states.

 

[WAJsal]

No infra is unnecessary.

what annoying is that proposed amount of time and money is always incorrect costs always go up(corruption)for EG look at ISL metro its unnecessary and taking a lot of money ,you would understand if you lived in ISL

 

[SarthakGanguly]

well dude yr being in kashmir can be said same way...... but we arnt going to say this because yr also kashmiri.

Yaar, practical hain yeh.
Pakistan trades nothing with India (almost). It only trades with Bangladesh and that too is not substantial and NOT via SAARC. It's chunk of the dealing comes from the US and China. So SAARC has nothing to offer to Pakistan and vice versa.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I don't know. Horus said so. I took his word the Pakistan is better off outside SAARC and dealing directly with China and other Central Asian states.

The question was directed to you, not Horus, regarding the "apprehensions that all SA countries excluding Pakistan" have about China joining SAARC - I take it then that there are no legitimate apprehensions, and the refusal to allow China to join is based on Indian paranoia and insecurity complexes ..

 

[definitelynotIndian]

May be because China isnt South Asian?

 

[he-man]

Yaar, practical hain yeh.
Pakistan trades nothing with India (almost). It only trades with Bangladesh and that too is not substantial and NOT via SAARC. It's chunk of the dealing comes from the US and China. So SAARC has nothing to offer to Pakistan and vice versa.

Pakistan does not believe in trade it seems,,it just wants to import stuff from china as it cannot possibly export anything to china.

With india pakistan can provide lot of raw materials and will profit a lot especially in vegetables,fruits and textiles.But false pride is hurting pakistan badly,,all the stuff from india goes to dubai to be eventually imorted to pakistan.What excuse does pakistan have on this??

Forget india,pakistan has almost abandoned the iran gas pipeline under saudi pressure too.Who was to benefit from that project??

Then pakistan labels others as unreliable,,laughable.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Then why is sharif blocking all the agreements??
Is pakistan now towing chinese line?

you have a valid point if he is blocking agreements that are purely meant for goodness of all people of South East Asia as envisioned by Modi.
I dont speak for Sherif by the way so i will like to see what Musharraf or Imran think about all those good proposals that will open the flood gates of prosperity and free love for billions of people of South east Asia

that said, if Pakistan complies with Indian advice and joins the line of other happy SAARC members then I think Indian objection to China to join the party of all goodness, happiness and love should cease and it should welcome China with open arms.
imagine the magnitude of all that goodness with the inclusion of China.

What exactly are these apprehensions that "all SA countries excluding Pakistan" have about China joining SAARC?

unfounded and really defeating the whole letter and spirit of SAARC

nothing but goodness with come with Chinese inclusion and its economic and political power will be an envy of other major economic groups like European Union.

 

[he-man]

you have a valid point if he is blocking agreements that are purely meant for goodness of all people of South East Asia as envisioned by Modi.
I dont speak for Sherif by the way so i will like to see what Musharraf or Imran think about all those good proposals that will open the flood gates of prosperity and free love for billions of people of South east Asia

that said, if Pakistan complies with Indian advice and joins the line of other happy SAARC members then I think Indian objection to China to join the party of all goodness, happiness and love should cease and it should welcome China with open arms.
imagine the magnitude of all that goodness with the inclusion of China.

You know it as well that cheap chinese stuff is destroying local industry in whole subcontinent,,,,,be it india,pakistan,or bangladesh.

Its time this stopped,,investments and all are fine but giving market to china is sounding a death bell to ur nation.U just have to go and buy firecrackers,nail cutters,bindis,small toys and see their branding inside pakistan to know that i am right in my apprehension.

All these so called experts know zilch of ground reality.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

nothing but goodness with come with Chinese inclusion and its economic and political power will be an envy of other major economic groups like European Union.

Yes, but the Indians want to control and dominate SAARC - their objections over China's membership are due to the fact that a SAARC incorporating China will not allow Indian economic domination and control over the bloc.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Pakistan does not believe in trade it seems,,it just wants to import stuff from china as it cannot possibly export anything to china.

Then pakistan labels others as unreliable,,laughable.

sardar g
if I tell you something then instead of laughing you will go to Dehli and slap those Lalas that have put restrictions on Pakistani imports. you see Pakistani cement is way cheaper than India but India wont let the people and small business benefit from the low cost of building out of simple animosity towards Pakistan. this trade thing is a two way process with a little bit of open heart and less fat on the eyes...

shame that never happens

 

[samv]

The article is probably true. Basically India just wants to dominate everyone else in the grouping. So of course they would be against China joining the group because then China would give some sort of balance that is not currently there. But to be honest, SAARC has not really benefited anyone.

 

[he-man]

sardar g
if I tell you something then instead of laughing you will go to Dehli and slap those Lalas that have put restrictions on Pakistani imports. you see Pakistani cement is way cheaper than India but India wont let the people and small business benefit from the low cost of building out of simple animosity towards Pakistan. this trade thing is a two way process with a little bit of open heart and less fat on the eyes...

shame that never happens

Thats tied to granting the most favoured nation status,,,unless pakistan reciprocates nothing will change.
Also post 26/11 situation is very tense.

 

[Judge]

Pakistan will again push for Chinese membership at the next summit in Islamabad to be held in 2016. All other SAARC members except India are either neutral or in favor of Chinese membership. India is alone in this. We will not let any agreement take shape which allow India to realise its little delusions of being the mini superpower in S.Asia. Having Beijing in SAARC makes sense as it will keep India in its senses. India is broke, China can also finance major SAARC projects.

China can finance projects bilaterally.
India will keep blocking the Chinese entry.

If Pakistan blocks regional development proposals at SAARC, it will end up looking bad in front of all other members and become a Pak vs Rest of SAARC like it did this time. You will lose credibility for the Chinese, if that is acceptable to your countrymen, then it works for us.

We are already signing bilateral treaties with SAARC member states. You do our work for us - making Pakistan lose credibility internationally as a Client state, not a Sovereign state.

You think that Pakistan's economic/social indicators are bad because it has no potential? Think again buddy. Pakistan has all the right ingredients to succeed on all levels. The reason for Pakistan's inefficiency lies in its bad policies and terrible leadership. Pakistan is very resilient. If it can survive the relentless onslaught of external and internal miscreants one can only imagine how it would fare under better circumstances. Pakistan doesn't depend on SAARC or India for that matter. Pakistan has much better alternatives at its disposal.

Please leave the rhetoric at home where there might be an audience for it.
The 'bad leader, bad policy, bad xyz, but apart from that Pakistan is golden' theme is good for domestic audiences.

Pakistan continuing to act as the local spokesperson has already left a bad taste in every other SAARC nation - when Pakistan blocked South Asian proposals - carry on with this and you will lose what little influence Pakistan has cultivated in Sri Lanka.
Pakistan already has zero pull in Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh and Maldives and India.