India being left out of Afghan matrix

[Ahmad]

Do u think if suicide bombers enter a capital blowthemselves inside or near govt buildings and embassies thats a success?While 80 - 90% countr being ruled by them?
Its not just india training there police there are 44 countries doing the same.
Tajikistan so what?indians are there coz of UN>?
India playing role lol man didnt ou read todays newspaper about indias role to be cut?CONFRENCE IN TURKEYE??
We dont have a problem sitting outside afghanistan just dont poke your nose into PAK-AFGHAN issues?
Indians work in afghanistan like bheegi billies NO OFFENCE
We already have tolded them about Pakistan training there armed forces.
They dont need india for training no offence coz the art of proxy war isnt enough they need actuall war tatics that forced a country several size of ours to retreat and beg for a cease fire in UN.

Brother PN,

Pakistan which is a strong country in the region have problems with their Taliban and cant contain their atrocities, look at the taliban that they are capable of attacking anywhere anytime, even intelegince and army HQs are not safe, tell me if we can expect anything better for afghanistan's security forces compare to pakistan?

the other thing, it is very incorrect to say that the taliban rule any part of afghanistan let alone 80%.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistan Nationalist - before refuting some one's argument at least take the pain of researching his assertions seriously.

Indian air base in Tajikistan - Farkhor Air base
Farkhor Air Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also read -
Asia Times Online :: South Asia news - India's foray into Central Asia
Thanks !

Davy jones from pirates of the carabean also give me link where india has any links land , sea , or air or even cultural and religious ties or links with CENTRAL ASIA or afghanistan.And in case of a war or trade how will india use them without a way through PAKISTAN?Thanks

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Brother PN,

Pakistan which is a strong country in the region have problems with their Taliban and cant contain their atrocities, look at the taliban that they are capable of attacking anywhere anytime, even intelegince and army HQs are not safe, tell me if we can expect anything better for afghanistan's security forces compare to pakistan?

the other thing, it is very incorrect to say that the taliban rule any part of afghanistan let alone 80%.

My dear afghan brother i dearly respect your views but brother taliban on our side are no more the instruments of proxy by a ogre or monster of a country which feeds on them.And yet alhamdullilah we are able to f..k these proxy scums from swat to no pak afghan border.But situation is worse in afghanistan there is no infrastructure or strong institutions thanks to the destruction invited by shumali itehad and india into our beloved brotherly country AFGHANISTAN.
But saying that taliban are not strong is just false because if they werent strong NATO and USA along with UNs special envoys wouldnt be meeting them and wanting them to join the govt. to end this bloodshed.
About this misunderstanding that AFGHANISTAN is our backyard its taken very wrongly.The fact is that direct or indirect problems or achievements effect Pakistan.
And india has no role in our PAK-AFGHAN future so the evil should be niped in the bud.Its the same india that was inviting and supporting RUSSIA in the 70s along with shumali itehad and its same Pakistan that was hosting 8 million AFGHANS.
While USSR was destroying AFGHANISTAN and masscring afghans.

 

[DavyJones]

Pakistani Nationalist - have fun with this one
Buddhas of Bamyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also read up on Afghan Indian relations. Remember Indians, Pakistanis and Afghans are from the same racial stock Islam or Hinduism is irrelevant.
Afghans love Indian film music and movies.

Also don't forget the traditional Indo -Russian ties - that's how we have a foothold in Central Asia.
The Northern Alliance has been our ally for many years

 

[deckingraj]

Davy jones from pirates of the carabean also give me link where india has any links land , sea , or air or even cultural and religious ties or links with CENTRAL ASIA or afghanistan.And in case of a war or trade how will india use them without a way through PAKISTAN?Thanks

With all due respect some of your assertions are so biased that i don't feel like replying.. However this one deserves a reply...

Very well said...Now you should not have any problems with any IAF base in Central Asia...right???

Though for some reason your ex-army chief and President said this

Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf, has raised his concern to the Tajikistan government on the fact that Indian planes can reach Pakistan within minutes.


Defence Aviation: Farkhor a Indian Air Force base in Tajikistan


May be he knows about some secret land,sea, air or even cultural links of India with central Asia...

Anyways on a serious note even few planes there is a a headache for you...Because then you have to put your defenses in your western border as well...We choose to use them or not is a separate discussion...but you cannot ignore the fact that there are some fighter planes who can attack your western border...Am i making sense??

P.S: I am not sure if i misunderstood your post but seems like you believe India cannot reach AF or central Asia without passing through pakistan...I would say please come out of this myth...

 

[karan.1970]

Well if Afghanistan does not vacate Indians, who are conducting terrorism within Pakistan, we reserve the right to do it for them and protect our country.

Bring it on Dude.. Sounds so similar to a kid saying :jab mere papa office jaenge tab main tujhe dekh loonga"

This is not being settled in the court of law, we are convinced with the evidence we do have. That's enough.

The judge, The Jury and the executioner.. hmm.. who else follows that mentality.. Terrorists??

I would, but we treat them as Indian terrorist camps, not foreign consulates.

Mudrike .. someone??

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Lol one word for you and shumali tajik and hazara itehad TALIBAN second one stock doesnt mean ONE ETHNICITY?About tajikistan base how many jets do u have there?and wont they be shot down by next ISLAMIC afghan government which will be neutral?or atleast pro PAKISTAN to an extent?
About indo- russia your just good paying clients to russians.And about movies hell i think most indian films are watched in Pakistan while our music is heard in india almost all indian movies have PAKISTANI MUSIC so what?doesnt make a big difference.About SHUMALI ATEHAD buddy i dont tihink you know the ground realities S.I consists of minority hazar and tajiks who are hated by majority AFGHANS meaning PUSHTOON.And your foothold is onl limited to russia even then you have no route for logistics ssupport in case of a war.
A swift attack on tajik base will eliminate your jets like PATHAN KOT.And for logistics you will have to pass through Pakistan that you wont even have a chance.

 

[Awesome]

#1 We have no doubts India would make it easy. It will be a difficult task.

#2 This is not a threat. I have at no point vented any sort of threat statement, I have stated things that are as they are. Pakistan has not threatened to bomb Indian consulates either. But ultimately thats the path we're heading for. Once Nato leaves, the path is clear for us, those consulates are ours for the taking.

Once Nato leaves there is no reason for Pakistan to gather proof and rally the world against India. It's much simpler to blow your terrorism network.

 

[Awesome]

The judge, The Jury and the executioner.. hmm.. who else follows that mentality.. Terrorists??

Israel does, America does.

Its okay when you're fighting against the terrorists as we are.

 

[Awesome]

I feel like some people are wasting their time by threatening me about consequences or begging me to see reason. I just stated an inevitability. Its gonna happen.

I hope it doesn't, I hope Indians protect their terrorists and save us the trouble for a showdown in Afghanistan by leaving. But its gonna happen one way or the other if the Indians don't go.

 

[karan.1970]

#1 We have no doubts India would make it easy. It will be a difficult task.

#2 This is not a threat. I have at no point vented any sort of threat statement, I have stated things that are as they are. Pakistan has not threatened to bomb Indian consulates either. But ultimately thats the path we're heading for. Once Nato leaves, the path is clear for us, those consulates are ours for the taking.

Once Nato leaves there is no reason for Pakistan to gather proof and rally the world against India. It's much simpler to blow your terrorism network.

It will do well if you check on who the world calls the epicenter of terrorism and an international migrane....

 

[Awesome]

It will do well if you check on who the world calls the epicenter of terrorism and an international migrane....

Only Pakistan's opinion matters and who do WE call terrorists.

Perhaps you should follow what the American recently told you guys. Be transparent about your activities in Afghanistan to the Pakistanis. Convince us you're not terrorists and that why we should spare your lives once Nato leaves.

It's worth a shot.

 

[karan.1970]

Only Pakistan's opinion matters and who do WE call terrorists.

Perhaps you should follow what the American recently told you guys. Be transparent about your activities in Afghanistan to the Pakistanis. Convince us you're not terrorists and that why we should spare your lives once Nato leaves.

It's worth a shot.

With this attitude do you think we give two hoots about Pakistan's opinion?? Our activities are as transparant as they can be. Its Pakistan who is so busy trying to read between the lines and finding conspiracies that its not even able to understand simplest of messages...About yet another blatant threat in your post, you have tried it in Punjab and got whipped.. You have been trying it in Kashmir and afghanistan and look where it got you. Keep living in delusions of being an invincible martial race and see where you land in next couple of decades. .

Reminds me of a story of 2 brothers. One of them plays a nasty prank on the other. The one who bore the brunt of the prank simply walked away without much of the scene. The prankster first considered it as his victory. After some time though, he started analyzing his brother's behavior and started questioning his lack of reaction. He convinced himself that his brother has something nastier up his sleeve and will definitely get back at him. From that point onwards, his life became a continuous process of watching over his shoulder to be ready for the prank he expected his brother to play on him. Basically became paranoid and started analyzing and over analyzing every thing his brother did and interpreting it as some scheme or the other. All this while his brother stayed cordial with him and watched him go to pieces. No revenge from his brother could have been worse than what the prankster did to himself

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

Only Pakistan's opinion matters and who do WE call terrorists.

Perhaps you should follow what the American recently told you guys. Be transparent about your activities in Afghanistan to the Pakistanis. Convince us you're not terrorists and that why we should spare your lives once Nato leaves.

It's worth a shot.

Kahani abhi khatam nahi hui............picture abhi baaki hai mere dost.

So wait and watch............bye

 

[Awesome]

Its a self-defence attitude.