India and Saudi Arabia relations

[jha]

^^^ the thing is that sire .this idiot is taking india on the path of development...i would prefer this highly educated idiot over genius zardari any day...

feel free to disagree

 

[Cityboy]

Pakistan seems so surprized and angry on 16 agrements betwn delhi and riyadh . .and one more india hv offered riyadh to launch their satelites by ISRO

 

[blueoval79]

Saudi-Indian relations: Analysis

The Bharati (aka Indian) press is full of sound and fury about the trip of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and the King of Sadui Arabia. The trip itself was a major achievement for the Bharati government–a clear indication of the level of relations between Delhi and Riyadh. Only four previous prime ministers have ever been allowed to the sacred land. Of course Mr. Manmohan Singh visited Riyadh only, not being allowed to stepon sacred soil of Mecca or Madina.

Bharati leaders were overjoyed by the fact that a Bharati Prime Minister was able to reach the shores of the Arabian peninsula which seems to be a major feat for the Bharati government.

The Bharati media is also very excited by the fact that Saudi Arabia has agreed to sell oil to Delhi at market prices. Well duh! Saudi Arabia surely doesn’t want to keep its oil under the sands. It does want to sell it so that it can sustain the lifestyle it is used to.

Delhi politicians are always very excited when a country decides to sell them something–anything. Delhi is “ga ga” over the fact that their trade with China has reached a certain number. Looking at the details of the numbers, one sees a one sided trade, where China is flooding the Bharati market with cheap goods–and Bharat is not exporting much. Delhi is all smiles because the US decided to sell it obsolete Nuclear power plants which are banned in the US.

Delhi and Riyadh have also signed an extradition and prisoner exchange treaty. It is amazing that Delhi was unable to get an extradition treaty signed with Saudi Arabia for the past sixty years. In practical terms an extradition treaty is not worth the paper it is written on. If the Saudi or the Bharati government deem it important for their national security purposes, they will not send a person to the other country—extradition treaty or no extradition treaty. Therefore if this is a great success story for Mr. Manmohan Singh–then one can surely imagine the level of expectations from the trip.

There are no other tangible results from the trip, other than the fact that Bharat has now introduced Saudi Arabia as an interlocutor between Pakistan and Bharat. A few weeks ago, Delhi was up in arms where the suggestion had been made that China would smooth out relations with Delhi. This week, Bharat accepted the good offices of Riyadh to smooth over ties with Pakistan. The opposition in Lok and Rjha Sabah are waiting for the Bharati PM to return so that they can hammer him. The opposition wants to know why Delhi had accepted a mediation role of Saudi Arabia in the dispute between Pakistan and Bharat.

This mediation role can only be applied to Afghanistan and to Kashmir. In both cases Delhi had rejected a third party role. This is the first time that Bharat has accepted an “interlocutory role” for a third country. Mediation by Saudi Arabia cannot be good news for Delhi. Saudi Arabia has often been accused of supporting and arming the Taliban and the militants fighting for their freedom in Kashmir.

The relations between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are legendary. Nothing could be closer. Every Pakistani head of state visits China or Saudi Arabia right after taking office. The Saudis are involved in every aspect of Pakistan life. Saudi Arabia is a major investor in Pakistan and has provided funding for Pakistan’s Nuclear program. According to sources, Pakistan Armed forces have bases in Saudi Arabia and Islamabad has provided the kingdom a nuclear umbrella. Saudi princes have been allowed into top secret nuclear facilities where even Pakistani Prime Ministers have on occasion been denied access. Thousands of Saudis live in Pakistan and many many thousands have their second homes in almost every major city of Pakistan. Thousands of Saudi students are enrolled in Pakistani universities. Millions of Pakistanis live and work in Saudi Arabia and are students in Saudi institutions. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan cooperate on each and every matter, be it foreign relations or economics or global strategies. There is no bone of contention between the two countries.

The Bharati trip came in the background of souring Bharati relations with Iran. After Delhi stabbed Iran in the back at the IAEA, Tehran canceled a $6 billion LNG deal with Delhi and has refused to revive it. Bharat is thirty for oil and gas. It cannot join the Iran Pakistan pipeline because of US pressure. It does not have oil. It needs energy. Therefore the trip to Saudi Arabia was essential to ensure supply of oil to Bharat. Saudi Arabia also seeks leverage in Delhi to pressure it to treat the large Muslim population properly.

Wow...thats a pissed of individual......grudgingly churning words ...with a grind...almost about to grind his teeth...and break his jaw....

 

[Optimus]

Frustrated soul - Cant help it As they say "Grapes are Sour"

 

[praveen]

most are frustated souls you see in forums these days

 

[jha]

few posts back there was a video posted..just listen to the comments of hamid gul..that is either because of confidence or, who knows ...?

 

[deckingraj]

Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the Vice-President and Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and ruler of Dubai, has left for India to hold talks in New Delhi on a range of business, political and security issues.

During his stay, Sheikh Mohammed is expected to hold talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, diplomatic sources said.

They said the UAE is looking forward to hosting the Prime Minister, who visited Saudi Arabia recently, and Oman as well as Qatar earlier, as part of India's deepening ties with the resource rich countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council.
Visit overdue
Vice-President Hamid Ansari's visit to the UAE, which had been scheduled earlier, is also long overdue.

Sheikh Mohammad is leading a top-level delegation, which includes Dubai Deputy Ruler Sheikh Maktoum bin Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Chairman of Dubai Civil Aviation and Chief Executive of The Emirates Group Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum, Dubai Police Chief Lt. General Dahi Khalfan Tamim and Governor of Dubai International Financial Centre Ahmed Humaid Al Tayer.


The Hindu : News / International : UAE, India set to firm up ties

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Something is cooking here....Seems like Gulf Nations and India has found some new love for each other...Not that we had bad relations with them but this new warmth in relations is surely unprecedented..Anyways good for us...Hope this warmth will not irk our Pakistani Friends...

 

[Chanakyaa]

Indian foreign relations at its best.
Jai Ho.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Indian foreign relations at its best.
Jai Ho.

Good luck in OIC membership if you can

 

[RAHUL INDIAN]

Good luck in OIC membership if you can

that is not the only thng..other developmet works cant be stopped coz of one issue....if it has to come, it will also with time....

 

[Cityboy]

OIC KIS KO CHAHIYE? We want oil and business. .NOW LOOKING FORWARD TO UAE AFTER RIYADH

 

[ramu]

The Bharati (aka Indian) press is full of sound and fury about the trip of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and the King of Sadui Arabia. The trip itself was a major achievement for the Bharati government–a clear indication of the level of relations between Delhi and Riyadh. Only four previous prime ministers have ever been allowed to the sacred land. Of course Mr. Manmohan Singh visited Riyadh only, not being allowed to stepon sacred soil of Mecca or Madina.

Let us understand that Honourable Prime minister of India was in Saudi Arabia on a diplomatic visit and not on a pilgrimage. The comment that only four Prime ministers have been allowed sounds very cheap as more than a million Indians travel every year to and from Saudi Arabia.

Bharati leaders were overjoyed by the fact that a Bharati Prime Minister was able to reach the shores of the Arabian peninsula which seems to be a major feat for the Bharati government.

Indians plan to reach the moon with Chandrayan II. Reaching shores of Arabian peninsula for a towering personality like MMS is minuscule. I would appreciate if the other does not qualify the achievements of the Indian Prime minister on his scale of success. Please refer to the link here to get an idea of who our prime minister is and compare the same with your very own 10%.

Manmohan Singh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Asif Ali Zardari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Bharati media is also very excited by the fact that Saudi Arabia has agreed to sell oil to Delhi at market prices. Well duh! Saudi Arabia surely doesn’t want to keep its oil under the sands. It does want to sell it so that it can sustain the lifestyle it is used to.

At the crux of strengthening ties is the thirst for imported oil for one of the world's fastest growing economies. Twenty percent of India's oil comes from Saudi Arabia, which also buys oil and gas from Iran, Kuwait and Qatar. A meeting with Saudi Oil Minister Ali Naimi produced a commitment to raise crude supplies from 25.5 million metric tonnes (about 3.5 million barrels) a year to 40 million metric tonnes (about 5.5 million barrels), Indian Oil Minister Murli Deora said. It is not just about price as pointed out but t is the capacity increase which the article forgets to mention.

Delhi politicians are always very excited when a country decides to sell them something–anything. Delhi is “ga ga” over the fact that their trade with China has reached a certain number. Looking at the details of the numbers, one sees a one sided trade, where China is flooding the Bharati market with cheap goods–and Bharat is not exporting much. Delhi is all smiles because the US decided to sell it obsolete Nuclear power plants which are banned in the US.

Utter cheap comment. By the way the Pakistani Rupee is half the value of an Indian rupee showing the demand of our currency irrespective of our buying binge. About China dumping cheap goods take a look at the anti dumping laws:
India imposed 15 anti-dumping duties in 2009-10 | mydigitalfc.com

OK, we can build, improvise and innovate from the available technology and do not have to reinvent the wheel. Also the technology available to us is from around the world and not just from USA.

Delhi and Riyadh have also signed an extradition and prisoner exchange treaty. It is amazing that Delhi was unable to get an extradition treaty signed with Saudi Arabia for the past sixty years. In practical terms an extradition treaty is not worth the paper it is written on. If the Saudi or the Bharati government deem it important for their national security purposes, they will not send a person to the other country—extradition treaty or no extradition treaty. Therefore if this is a great success story for Mr. Manmohan Singh–then one can surely imagine the level of expectations from the trip.

There are no other tangible results from the trip, other than the fact that Bharat has now introduced Saudi Arabia as an interlocutor between Pakistan and Bharat. A few weeks ago, Delhi was up in arms where the suggestion had been made that China would smooth out relations with Delhi. This week, Bharat accepted the good offices of Riyadh to smooth over ties with Pakistan. The opposition in Lok and Rjha Sabah are waiting for the Bharati PM to return so that they can hammer him. The opposition wants to know why Delhi had accepted a mediation role of Saudi Arabia in the dispute between Pakistan and Bharat.

Meaning of interlocutor

1. a person who takes part in a conversation
2. Also called middleman the man in the centre of a troupe of minstrels who engages the others in talk or acts as announcer
3. (Law) Scots law a decree by a judge

Take your pick. I will take mine and be happy about the statement.

This mediation role can only be applied to Afghanistan and to Kashmir. In both cases Delhi had rejected a third party role. This is the first time that Bharat has accepted an “interlocutory role” for a third country. Mediation by Saudi Arabia cannot be good news for Delhi. Saudi Arabia has often been accused of supporting and arming the Taliban and the militants fighting for their freedom in Kashmir.

“interlocutory role” grow up!

The relations between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are legendary. Nothing could be closer. Every Pakistani head of state visits China or Saudi Arabia right after taking office. The Saudis are involved in every aspect of Pakistan life.

Yes, or else Frankenstein can go out of control.

Saudi Arabia is a major investor in Pakistan and has provided funding for Pakistan’s Nuclear program.

Links please ? BTW, don't you think Pakistan has enough to run its own program. Why do you want to give credit to Saudi for your investments?

According to sources, Pakistan Armed forces have bases in Saudi Arabia and Islamabad has provided the kingdom a nuclear umbrella. Saudi princes have been allowed into top secret nuclear facilities where even Pakistani Prime Ministers have on occasion been denied access.

Clear indication that a democratically elected leader of Pakistan has not enough power in comparison to Saudi prince.

Thousands of Saudis live in Pakistan and many many thousands have their second homes in almost every major city of Pakistan.

No wonder, premium housing in Pakistan is beyond the scope of the common man.

Thousands of Saudi students are enrolled in Pakistani universities. Millions of Pakistanis live and work in Saudi Arabia and are students in Saudi institutions.

First back to back statements that make some sense.

Saudi Arabia and Pakistan cooperate on each and every matter, be it foreign relations or economics or global strategies. There is no bone of contention between the two countries.

Very good.

The Bharati trip came in the background of souring Bharati relations with Iran. After Delhi stabbed Iran in the back at the IAEA, Tehran canceled a $6 billion LNG deal with Delhi and has refused to revive it.

links please.

Bharat is thirty for oil and gas. It cannot join the Iran Pakistan pipeline because of US pressure. It does not have oil. It needs energy. Therefore the trip to Saudi Arabia was essential to ensure supply of oil to Bharat. Saudi Arabia also seeks leverage in Delhi to pressure it to treat the large Muslim population properly.

Final words from me. You are frustrated and have not got a clue of what to write. Most of your claims are absurd and have no semblance to reality. Thank you and get well soon.

 

[EjazR]

‘Saudi Arabia committed to regional security’

PUNE: The growing relations between India and Saudi Arabia is not at the expense of any other country — both New Delhi and Riyadh are committed to regional security and their fight against extremism of all forms, said Indian Ambassador to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Talmiz Ahmad.

As of now the cultural exchanges between the two countries are minimal, unlike that is with other Gulf states. New Delhi is focusing on the concept of ‘Wellness Tourism’ by projecting southern states of Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Kerala as the Southern quadrilateral, which will address lifestyle related issues to Saudi visitors, Ahmad told Sakaal Times on Monday.

Asked as what is Riyadh’s perspective about India, the Envoy said, “The relations between the two countries have gone a sea-change, particularly in the last two decades. Saudi Arabia appreciates the democratic values, the plurality of India and looks at New Delhi with a positive view.”

In that case, is India looking towards Riyadh to use its influence over Pakistan to curb the cross border terrorism? Refusing to comment on the issue, Ahmad said, “Saudi Arabia is a capable country and has its own sources and mechanism to know what is happening. New Delhi need not tell Riyadh of what is plaguing the region.”

Besides, relation between Riyadh and Islamabad is based on religious affinity while ties between India and Saudi Arabia are based on mutual trust and cooperation in diverse sectors ranging from trade and commerce to defence cooperation, which is a long term equation, he said. “There have been bilateral Naval exercises between the two countries in the past. And recently, Saudi has expressed its interest that India assists it in setting up a Mountain Warfare School in the Kingdom,” said Ahmad, when asked what type of defence collaborations are the two countries involved at present.

He said the Indian mission in Riyadh has begun a programme of Pre-Recruitment Attestation Scheme through which the embassy would examine contract details of Indians before they take up assignments in the Kingdom. This is being done to minimise labour problems and cases of fraud, which is a major complaint among the two million Indian expatriate community working in Saudi, said Ahmad, who is in the city as part of the Bharat Darshan programme.

 

[letsbefriends]

I think India and Saudi Arab will talk about Afghanistan too and Indian role in Afghanistan.
Some one from Pakistan should go to Iran and sign the pile line deal for Pakistan's need of energy and counter Saudi Love for India.

ya lol we have to hear it from a nation who cannot even get rid of taliban n need billions of dollars n equipment to fight taliban..if we r 5 decades behind china den may be u r 100 decades behind,u dont even have say in ur own country..lol.read abt the democracy situation in pakistan..n yeah as far as taking over is concerned it may happen otherwise may be instead ofin islamabad flag will wave..WATCH OUT FOR A PREDATOR DRONE

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

ya lol we have to hear it from a nation who cannot even get rid of taliban n need billions of dollars n equipment to fight taliban..if we r 5 decades behind china den may be u r 100 decades behind,u dont even have say in ur own country..lol.read abt the democracy situation in pakistan..n yeah as far as taking over is concerned it may happen otherwise may be instead ofin islamabad flag will wave..WATCH OUT FOR A PREDATOR DRONE

you wont win many 'friends' here with your smart-alec attitude, son.

democracy situation in Pakistan is fragile; but still intact. Whole world is commending our role not just in fighting terror, but also our role in Afghanistan.


not only waves in Islamabad.......






but on some rooftops in Sri Nagar and indian hyderabad too, it appears