India and Pakistan ? Pakistan and India

[GURU DUTT]

That answer was for him. I am already saying that forget what happen in past and move forward you..

bhai jaan that is not possible as we tried doing it time and again but got usual backstabbing from pakistan...so its better we remain as we are ...aap apne ghar khush ham apne ghar khush per apne hamare ghar me aag lagani na chori to hum aapko bhi mehfooz na rehne denge ...shabba khair

 

[freelancer93]

We sure can become trade partners, good neighbors

ONLY

if

India back off from Kashmir and give them their rights, instead of destroying their future.

Then, there are 'water issues' and God knows how many other issues...we have to face.

 

[Aka123]

Hey everyone,
This is my second post ever on this website and I believe that some may view what I say as controversial and it may be long but I implore you to read it fully because i still believe it needs to be said. I think it's about time that Indian's and Pakistani's reconciled their differences and buried the hatchet. How much longer can we go on fighting each other with no end in sight ? Why can't the two countries become Asia's version of Canada and the United States? I believe that India and Pakistan can become friends. Not just neutral countries but actual friends with both countrymen interacting with each other and mingling freely. 200 years ago Canada burned down the White House. France, England and Germany are allies despite World War 2. Denmark and Sweden fought for centuries over ownership of Norway. Clearly there is a precedent for war-time enemies to eventually become allies. So why can't we ? I have great respect for Pakistan's army in addition to my respect for India's army. I have also heard a lot of things about Pakistan that make me want to visit it. Yes, we have issues. Kashmir and other such problems are unlikely to be sorted out soon but that doesn't mean that they can't be solved and that we can't come to an agreement that both countrymen agree to. Countries that have fought bloody wars with each other are friends today. We're both even friends with Britain despite the 200 years of British rule. Hence why can't we reconcile each other. I want to be able to meet Pakistani friends over a cup of tea and I want both of us to be able to make fun of each others or our own nations without and animosity or hurt feelings like Barney and Robin do in "How I met your mother" (Any fans ?). We even have many cultural similarities and are both classified as desi. There are many places in pakistan that I would love to visit some day such as the Swat valley, Karachi, Lahore and the beautiful northern regions such as the "Hunza valley" and "Nagar valley" or "Nanga Parbat." Both countries even suffer from similar problems such as terrorism and corruption. We can solve these problems together and hence I ask you to consider solving the issue between us and burying the hatchet. Let's give peace a chance.

As an additional note I am creating a blog where I post pictures about the rich culture, beauty, food and countrymen of each country so that people may know more about each other. Any pictures you may have about India or Pakistan's people, beauty, culture etc can you post it in the thread ? Also one day I hope to organise a video chat on the blog so Indians and Pakistani's can talk face to face. Would that be something you guys would be interested in ?

Keep it up bro!! In reality things are changing, these PDF haters are becoming minority gradually. So we(from both sides) will win soon. Thanks!!

 

[American Pakistani]

Be realist mate...i respect your sentiments but Pakistan India friendly relations are not possible until India quit IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir.

 

[AhsanAmin]

I truly appreciate Blaze's sentiments and what he said for Pakistan and India friendship. I wish all Pakistanis and Indians would have similar thoughts for each other. I hope that more educated younger generations who do not have very strong memories and "fixed emotions" that came with partition and previous conflicts will understand each other.

As a Pakistani, I do think that two nation theory might have quite a bit of truth in it, which certainly does not mean we should not make good and close friends with India. Pakistan will always exist as a separate country but it would be good for both India and Pakistan to become honest friends and great neighbors.

We have a lot of people, in both India and Pakistan, who like this animosity to continue forever, we must encourage voices of sanity who talk about bringing the two nations closer and end perpetual hatred between the two people.

Kashmir is certainly a dispute that evokes emotions in both countries, but I do not think this problem can ever be solved by force. Indian Army cannot take our part of Kashmir and Pak Army cannot conquer the other part of Kashmir. The consequences of any misadventure to take on the other nation by force are too extreme for both countries which obviates military solution of this problem, a reality we have to understand very well. However since emotions can be inflamed on this issue very easily, vested interests like to exploit this issue to the extreme, just like they exploit religion. It has become fashionable to talk against exploiting religion in Politics, which is a good development but Kashmir is a very similar issue where we have to defeat those vested interests and understand what is actually good for our nations.

 

[funtoosh]

Oh really!!
Jab nawaz sharif ny peace talks ki bat ki to tum ny 26/11 ki bat shrow kar di..
Now tell me who don't want peace talks and hence peace?

what.. you guys come and kill Indians and you say you are the good guys?

Be realist mate...i respect your sentiments but Pakistan India friendly relations are not possible until India quit IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir.

pak should quit P0K and take all Kashmiri muslims into Punjab W.

I truly appreciate Blaze's sentiments and what he said for Pakistan and India friendship. I wish all Pakistanis and Indians would have similar thoughts for each other. I hope that more educated younger generations who do not have very strong memories and "fixed emotions" that came with partition and previous conflicts will understand each other.

As a Pakistani, I do think that two nation theory might have quite a bit of truth in it, which certainly does not mean we should not make good and close friends with India. Pakistan will always exist as a separate country but it would be good for both India and Pakistan to become honest friends and great neighbors.

We have a lot of people, in both India and Pakistan, who like this animosity to continue forever, we must encourage voices of sanity who talk about bringing the two nations closer and end perpetual hatred between the two people.

Kashmir is certainly a dispute that evokes emotions in both countries, but I do not think this problem can ever be solved by force. Indian Army cannot take our part of Kashmir and Pak Army cannot conquer the other part of Kashmir. The consequences of any misadventure to take on the other nation by force are too extreme for both countries which obviates military solution of this problem, a reality we have to understand very well. However since emotions can be inflamed on this issue very easily, vested interests like to exploit this issue to the extreme, just like they exploit religion. It has become fashionable to talk against exploiting religion in Politics, which is a good development but Kashmir is a very similar issue where we have to defeat those vested interests and understand what is actually good for our nations.

see Pakistan is holding nearly as much territory in Kashmir as india is. but Pakistan is the one causing terror in india on Kashmir.

 

[Gautam]

Like we are hurting you always..
You know everything we did to you but you know nothing what you did to us.
We are not asking you for anything and we've already forget our past but you people will be same always.
Actually you don't want peace talks..

Faisal,

You didnt provide the link of your claim that you made in your last post. Why?

Lets not beat round the bush and come to the point. We have asked you to prosecute the terrorists of 26/11 so that we can move forward and hold the peace talks. Why are you not doing it?

As for your claim that you wanna forget everything, then how about you forget about Kashmir too? (Coz you just said that you wanna move forward from the past and forget everything! right?)

This way we won't have to ask you for prosecuting terrorists!

Win win situation for both.

P.S.
Since you cant forget about Kashmir, we cant forget the 26/11 episode. Simple it is.

 

[RangerPK]

Hey everyone,
This is my second post ever on this website and I believe that some may view what I say as controversial and it may be long but I implore you to read it fully because i still believe it needs to be said. I think it's about time that Indian's and Pakistani's reconciled their differences and buried the hatchet. How much longer can we go on fighting each other with no end in sight ? Why can't the two countries become Asia's version of Canada and the United States? I believe that India and Pakistan can become friends. Not just neutral countries but actual friends with both countrymen interacting with each other and mingling freely. 200 years ago Canada burned down the White House. France, England and Germany are allies despite World War 2. Denmark and Sweden fought for centuries over ownership of Norway. Clearly there is a precedent for war-time enemies to eventually become allies. So why can't we ? I have great respect for Pakistan's army in addition to my respect for India's army. I have also heard a lot of things about Pakistan that make me want to visit it. Yes, we have issues. Kashmir and other such problems are unlikely to be sorted out soon but that doesn't mean that they can't be solved and that we can't come to an agreement that both countrymen agree to. Countries that have fought bloody wars with each other are friends today. We're both even friends with Britain despite the 200 years of British rule. Hence why can't we reconcile each other. I want to be able to meet Pakistani friends over a cup of tea and I want both of us to be able to make fun of each others or our own nations without and animosity or hurt feelings like Barney and Robin do in "How I met your mother" (Any fans ?). We even have many cultural similarities and are both classified as desi. There are many places in pakistan that I would love to visit some day such as the Swat valley, Karachi, Lahore and the beautiful northern regions such as the "Hunza valley" and "Nagar valley" or "Nanga Parbat." Both countries even suffer from similar problems such as terrorism and corruption. We can solve these problems together and hence I ask you to consider solving the issue between us and burying the hatchet. Let's give peace a chance.

As an additional note I am creating a blog where I post pictures about the rich culture, beauty, food and countrymen of each country so that people may know more about each other. Any pictures you may have about India or Pakistan's people, beauty, culture etc can you post it in the thread ? Also one day I hope to organise a video chat on the blog so Indians and Pakistani's can talk face to face. Would that be something you guys would be interested in ?

Try to be neutral neighbours first. Also, I do not like bi polar behavior of Indians, how they either want to be enemies or be the best friends in the whole wide word. I don't know if Indians actually realize the concept of "indifference" in their culture.

Also, Pakistan is a diverse country with diverse culture, ethnicity, races. It annoys me, when Indians come to Pakistani forums and say "we are same people" especially the South Indian kind, that is one big pile of delusional crap by South Indians to consider they are anything like Pakistanis. They can not even relate themselves with their own North Indians, how can they relate to us? So cut that BS...

 

[Victory]

Try to be neutral neighbours first. Also, I do not like bi polar behavior of Indians, how they either want to be enemies or be the best friends in the whole wide word. I don't know if Indians actually realize the concept of "indifference" in their culture.

Also, Pakistan is a diverse country with diverse culture, ethnicity, races. It annoys me, when Indians come to Pakistani forums and say "we are same people" especially the South Indian kind, that is one big pile of delusional crap by South Indians to consider they are anything like Pakistanis. They can not even relate themselves with their own North Indians, how can they relate to us? So cut that BS...

Spare this thread bhaiiiiii

 

[AhsanAmin]

RangerPK said: ↑
Try to be neutral neighbours first. Also, I do not like bi polar behavior of Indians, how they either want to be enemies or be the best friends in the whole wide word. I don't know if Indians actually realize the concept of "indifference" in their culture.
Also, Pakistan is a diverse country with diverse culture, ethnicity, races. It annoys me, when Indians come to Pakistani forums and say "we are same people" especially the South Indian kind, that is one big pile of delusional crap by South Indians to consider they are anything like Pakistanis. They can not even relate themselves with their own North Indians, how can they relate to us? So cut that BS...

We have similar differences within Pakistan. I think as many things are common between us as there are different. Please do not be rude to good natured people who like to highlight similarities and try to make friends. Does not reflect well about yourself.

 

[freelancer93]

We have similar differences within Pakistan. I think as many things are common between us as there are different. Please do not be rude to good natured people who like to highlight similarities and try to make friends. Does not reflect well about yourself.

We do have similar difference but if u r forgetting we have one main common ground as well, Islam (also consider as our ideology)

We can definitely have a good trade/neighbor relations with India but it depends on their behavior, they should talk about Kashmir first which they are not willing to do.

 

[Aamna14]

Indians and Pakistanis can't be friends because in some ways they are too alike to be able to get along with each other. I, personally have no issues with an Indian here on the basis of his or her nationality but the examples you quoted are surely apt though that kind of an attitude can be seen and expected from those nations, not because they are in any way superior to us but because they would rather prefer benefitting their own people than killing others. They are smart nations who realised it, even though after a bloodbath, that they have to eventually get along with people whom they have serious issues with. People of our region unfortunately aren't like this thats why we are still third world countries and rather choose to rip each other apart than lift each other up.

 

[American Pakistani]

pak should quit P0K and take all Kashmiri muslims into Punjab W.

You should know a Muslim never leaves land. Even after death you people burn yourself whereas Muslim still takes Land.

Forget about IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir...even in India, those lands where Muslims are living, are their property. You think they will forget your occupation of Muslim lands like Kashmir, Hyderabad Deccan, Junagadh/Manvadar, Kolkata, Gurdaspur, etc? They are silent because they are in minority for now but they cannot forget...it will remain in their memories.

Now stay on topic instead of quoting the reasons i posted for unfriendly relations to the OP.

 

[MohitV]

You should know a Muslim never leaves land. Even after death you people burn yourself whereas Muslim still takes Land.

Forget about IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir...even in India, those lands where Muslims are living, are their property. You think they will forget your occupation of Muslim lands like Kashmir, Hyderabad Deccan, Junagadh/Manvadar, Kolkata, Gurdaspur, etc? They are silent because they are in minority for now but they cannot forget...it will remain in their memories.

Now stay on topic instead of quoting the reasons i posted for unfriendly relations to the OP.

muslims in india have got no time to remember these things....all they want is education for their children ,good jobs and bright future.......the reason why a party like BJP is won in inspite of its tainted past ....




PS i m not talking about kashmiri people

 

[American Pakistani]

Also, Pakistan is a diverse country with diverse culture, ethnicity, races. It annoys me, when Indians come to Pakistani forums and say "we are same people" especially the South Indian kind, that is one big pile of delusional crap by South Indians to consider they are anything like Pakistanis. They can not even relate themselves with their own North Indians, how can they relate to us? So cut that BS...

I agree with your post but unfortunately some idiot Pakistanis buy this theory too.

muslims in india have got no time to remember these things....all they want is education for their children ,good jobs and bright future.......the reason why a party like BJP is won in inspite of its tainted past ....

You can wish whatever you want but reality is very different. I' am not here to give you the proofs or anything nor this thread is about that so better stick to the topic.