India and Pakistan headed for war?

[bad boy 8]

Nothing is gonna happen, both are nuclear-armed states to their fullest, one conventional missile will result into the destruction of the subcontinent, with the other party involved retaliating with rains of missiles.

In case of nuclear war,18 crore pakistani's will no doubt die but we will take the 120 crore indian population along with us.Their pathetic hindu civilization shall be wiped out from the earth FOREVER.We are muslims ,we are born JUST to die,so it really doesn't matter.Alhamdulillah,there are many muslim states in the world but there is only one pagan hindu state.Gen Zia (rahimullah) is rumored to have given the exact same warning to rajiv gandhi during the 1987 brasstacks crisis

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

I hope things won't get to this level. Please tone down a little bit Sir.

In case of nuclear war,18 crore pakistani's will no doubt die but we will take the 120 crore indian population along with us.Their pathetic hindu civilization shall be wiped out from the earth FOREVER.We are muslims ,we are born JUST to die,so it really doesn't matter.Alhamdulillah,there are many muslim states in the world but there is only one pagan hindu state.Gen Zia (rahimullah) is rumored to have given the exact same warning to rajiv gandhi during the 1987 brasstacks crisis

Gen. Zia is regarded as a hero here

 

[timetravel]

In case of nuclear war,18 crore pakistani's will no doubt die but we will take the 120 crore indian population along with us.Their pathetic hindu civilization shall be wiped out from the earth FOREVER.We are muslims ,we are born JUST to die,so it really doesn't matter.Alhamdulillah,there are many muslim states in the world but there is only one pagan hindu state.Gen Zia (rahimullah) is rumored to have given the exact same warning to rajiv gandhi during the 1987 brasstacks crisis

there is one Pagan Atheist State also.. China.

then there are two big Pagan Christian States also.. US and Russia

then there is one Super Pagan Shia State also.. Iran

Yes after all those are gone. there will be 50% peace. For rest 50% peace we need to eliminate the remaining of the smaller Pagan States like below.

We can then clear the other Smaller Pagan States like France, UK, Germany, Italy, Burma, Sri Lanka

Then also lot of Faithful Muslims will be left - ALONE in this world PEACEFULLY forever.

better Still... Pakistan alone should nuke whole of Pagan World (all non sunni world).... that would be perfect.. since all the Pagan world would target Pakistan only.. which would still leave lots of Muslims alive still..

so 18 crore Pakistanis for death of 5 Billion Pagans...

left are 1 Billion Pure Sunni Muslims... so what say? Deal?

 

[MohitV]

NO war.... Its Indian Election ... Dirty politicians they loose nothing its the Armed forces personnel and their families and people who are again burdened under taxes for more funds for Armed Forces.....

Indian politicians really need to grow up ..... I donot think they have a matured enough democracy which is quite evident from their such irresponsible actions over past few year not just days...... What a bunch of Immature, Irresponsible people we have across the border who donot understand what could result in a all out war between two nuclear armed neighbors....

Their immaturity and shallow depth are now quite visible from their two feature films... "The Mumbai Blasts" and the "The ____ Train Blasts" ....... Wow People of India vote for sane people not people like these..... get someone who work for the peace and prosperity of the region..... we donot need europe and US of A (A doesnot stand of America here) .... we have the largest consumer market right here in asia and thats what makes the economy wheel spin... lets capitalize on the same rather than US of A and Europe capitalizing on our differences......

dude............i agree to that......our current leaders are nut jobs....even a ricksaw wala wont make a comment like they make on national television.....look at our economy now due to their corruption....and still dey argue like lil girls......shame

 

[Meengla]

No war likely over the border incidents...Really, there have been much worse 'provocations' from Pakistan in the past and indeed when India shot down Atlantique the Pakistanis were also riled up.
As I see it the current incidents are either some insurgents' attempt to TRY to start a war or some shooting-accidents (and they happen in such tense borders) triggering tit for tat to which both sides MUST profess innocence.

And, yes, a war with India will unite Pakistanis very quickly and very effectively. No boasting but this is not the E. Pakistan where the local populace was alienated and a geographic situation made the war unwinnable. India will be set back decades even in a conventional war--as for Pakistan: It is already lagging behind by decades due to the WOT.

 

[phylumchordata]

In wars it is the common man who suffers . These strategists and netas live in peace.

 

[Developereo]

What a load of BS you just Highlighted...It was India who Stared the whole saga,First by Martyring our one soldier(Sepoy Asim) and injuring the other one;And the next day Kidnapping our Four civilians,Killing them in the cold blood and hypocritically calling them Infiltrators and terrorists...

Exactly. The Western media, of course, will push the Indian propaganda.

What's happening here is the Indian military trying to escalate things to divert attention from, and regain respect after, the repeated Chinese 'incursions'.

But no war.

 

[OrionHunter]

“This is a sad reality of India-Pakistan relations — whenever things are looking up, a saboteur tries to send all progress up in smoke.”

No prizes for guessing who the saboteurs are!

 

[OrionHunter]

No one can afford a war in the present scenario

It's not the question of 'affordability' where Pak Generals are concerned. It's their mindset and the enamor they have of their new-found nuclear toys, itching to press the red button, never mind if they themselves are destroyed in a massive nuke response from India.

They seem to be under the mistaken impression that they can hide behind their nukes and use it as a deterrent to threaten India. That didn't work in Kargil when their bluff and bluster warned India of a nuke response! But we all know what happened! There was a lot of egg splattered around instead of nukes!!

The bottom line is, whatever one may say, there will never be a nuclear war between India and Pakistan. Period!

 

[Thorough Pro]

Don't worry, you guys don't have balls.

“The intention here is to sabotage the peace process,” said Michael Kugelman, an expert on South Asia affiliated with the Woodrow Wilson Center.

“This is a sad reality of India-Pakistan relations — whenever things are looking up, a saboteur tries to send all progress up in smoke.”

The region has been on the boil since the five Indian soldiers were killed in an ambush in the Poonch sector of India-administered Kashmir last week. India said Pakistani soldiers were to blame, and Pakistan disavowed the attack.

The incident prompted a series of cross-border skirmishes that each country has accused the other of starting. It has all-but scuttled hopes that Sharif and his Indian counterpart, Manmohan Singh, will be able to resume peace negotiations anytime soon.

The so-called composite dialogue dates back to January 2004. It was called off following the November 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack, which India believes were perpetrated with the aid of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency. Until this week, the formal talks had been set to resume this month. Now even an informal meeting between Singh and Sharif on the sidelines of the September UN General Assembly is at risk.

The situation is scary, experts say. Kashmir — a divided territory that both India and Pakistan claim as their own — was the cause of two of the three wars the two countries have fought since they attained independence from Britain in 1947. Now both New Delhi and Islamabad control numerous nukes; Pakistan has the world’s fastest growing arsenal.

As the tit-for-tat bombardment continues, the shelling already marks the heaviest exchange since the ceasefire began in 2003, raising fears that the repeated violations will result in a complete breakdown of the truce. Signaling their concern about further escalation, both Washington and the UN have appealed for calm.

But which side is responsible for starting the fire? What is the endgame? And how far will the flames spread before cooler heads prevail?

Indian analysts remain convinced that Pakistan uses such shelling to provide cover for ****** militants crossing the border to attack installations in India-administered Kashmir. By India's tally, there have already been 42 such ceasefire violations in 2013, compared with 28 in 2012, according to India Today. Meanwhile, this year 40 members of India's security forces in the area have been killed, compared with 17 the year before.

For Indians looking to explain who broke the truce this time, that's a smoking gun.

“If you just take the common sensical point of view, India has no interest [in breaking the ceasefire], because we are not sending in infiltrators under cover of fire,” said former Indian foreign secretary Kanwal Sibal. “We have no reason to fire unilaterally because what do we then hope to achieve? We don't score any points either bilaterally or internationally.”

Pakistan-watchers, however, argue that its army no longer provides such support for ****** groups, and hint that the ambush story may have been a ploy by India, or a local Indian commander, to trigger hostilities.

Admitting that Pakistani generals “may have” helped jihadis cross into India in the past, for instance, Pakistan-born Shuja Nawaz, director of the South Asia Center at the Atlantic Council, said that policy was ended under former president General Pervez Musharraf, and it would be “surprising if it is being activated again.”

Nawaz also questioned why India first called the alleged ambush an attack by “persons dressed in Pakistani uniforms” – only later referring to it as an army assault — and why top military officials allowed tempers to flare for two days before activating a hotline intended to defuse these situations.

“What is surprising is that the Director General Military Operations did not activate the hotline till two days [after the alleged ambush]. Why?” said Nawaz.

Experts agree it’s not likely that Sharif's civilian government officially sanctioned the alleged ambush of Indian soldiers. But it may well have had the active or tacit support of the military-intelligence combine, or “deep state,” that holds the real power in Pakistan. Moreover, though the ceasefire is expected to hold, the ambush and subsequent saber rattling in Pakistan certainly establishes that its new prime minister — for all his talk of peace — must overcome enormous obstacles in his own country before he can think of negotiating with India.

“Overarching all this is the fact that during the election campaign, [Sharif] spoke about his desire to improve relations with India, and there was an exchange of special envoys pretty quickly,” said India's Sibal.

“There was hope that he might be able to begin turning a new page. But under his watch all the wrong things are happening... ****** organizations [and] what they call the ‘deep state’ in Pakistan [i.e. the army and intelligence apparatus] seem to be at work.”

While Sharif has continued to preach peace since his June election, his army and spy agency don't seem to be listening. That's because both have vested interests in stoking fears of an Indian attack — lest they face a sustained drive to curtail their powers, or, worse, a deep cut to the defense budget.

On August 3, terrorists whom India claims have links to Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) attacked the Indian consulate in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, Islamabad allowed alleged terrorist Hafiz Saeed to lead Eid prayers before a massive throng at the Gaddafi stadium in Lahore on August 9. India and the US accuse him of leading of Lashkar-e-Taiba, and Indians accuse of masterminding the 2008 attacks on Mumbai; Washington DC has a $10 million bounty on his head. The Eid prayers were not a one-off. Saeed also led several thousand supporters in a Lahore parade on August 14, to mark Pakistan’s independence day.

And amidst the shelling this week, Pakistan's finance minister announced that a plan to grant India “most favored nation” status – once viewed an easily attained step that would be good for both countries – is now off the table.

“Neither side wants war nor does either profit from a conflict escalating beyond [Kashmir’s Line of Control]. Local commanders, especially newly posted ones to the region, flex their muscles. But this is a dangerous game,” said the Atlantic Council's Nawaz.

Worse still, the game is set to grow more perilous with the approach of 2014 – when the rules will change, according to the Woodrow Wilson Center's Kugelman. The US withdrawal from Afghanistan will leave India and Pakistan contending for influence there, while the exit of US troops will again make India and Kashmir the number one target for Pakistan-based terrorist groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Meanwhile, in the face of continued provocations since the 2008 attacks on Mumbai, India's capacity for restraint may have reached its limits, Kugelman worries. And the election slated for May 2014 will put added pressure on Singh's government to take a hard line.

“As India's election grows closer, any consequent LoC hostilities could conceivably lead to escalation,” Kugelman said. “And that's a scary thought.”

Analysis: Are India and Pakistan headed for war? | GlobalPost

 

[acid rain]

The terrorists and the intelligence combine of Pakistan have triggered this current mess, which I am afraid would go towards a serious war. I say be done with and eliminate the problem once and for all - the world will be thankfull to us for eliminating the ground zero of terrorism.

 

[acid rain]

Don't worry, you guys don't have balls.

Keep triggering a conflict and you will see a lot more in addition to our balls.

 

[acid rain]

AK Anthony has handed over decision making about the LOC to the IA, so its....

Terrorists+PA vs IA now.

 

[Kompromat]

1: ISI Attacks Indian consulate in Jalalabad Afghanistan

2: ISI kills 5 Indian soldiers at LoC

3: ISI destroys an Indian Submarine


From Indian perspective , it all makes sense now doesn't it?

@Yzd Khalifa

 

[MilSpec]

1: ISI Attacks Indian consulate in Jalalabad Afghanistan

2: ISI kills 5 Indian soldiers at LoC

3: ISI destroys an Indian Submarine


From Indian perspective , it all makes sense now doesn't it?

@Yzd Khalifa

Even If ISI/Pak Army/China/etc tomorrow comes and captures New Delhi, Manmohan Singh government will still be talking about peace talks! I think this is an excellent opportunity for Pak army, just go and take over kashmir, these moron won't do anything more than diplomatic meetings.