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Kaniska

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This post is nothing about any article or document that i am referring to rather, it is a thought in my mind.
I was going through the issues in Nepal and then it struck to my mind.

There is definitely some serious issue with our foreign policy issues.How come, on the people to people level, we are always at odd with our neighboring nations. Again, i am not referring to even Gov to Gov thing. Rather very much on people to people basis. I can see the posts that is posted by my Indian friends that includes me too. The entire content of this conversastion is to defend or argue withe all people of my neighourhood....Even people from Nepal is complaining....Is it not somethihg, our Indian friends should really think about...We have to admit that we have really serious issue with our approch when deal with our neighour.

1- Nepal: Why India is even having to worry about what the heck even happening to their constitution? Wheather they give right to Madhesi people or not, is it not crazy to say we will suggest what needs to be done to Madhesi people just because they are originated from India...This is the same issue and mistake India has done when they unnecessary get involved in Sri Lankan conflict...

2- Sri Lanka: Based on my knowelge, India supported LTTE just to check mate Sri Lanka which was closing into Pakistan and also US....Makes sense..This was happening in 1980..Now we are in 2015...Should India even at all worried what is happening in Sri Lanka?? Man, we people internally , do not provide equal right to our citizens just because they are of different caste...And agian, i am not even mentioning the other monority religion...It is better to not to mention it...How come we have any voice when we say and even discuss what Sri Lanka should deal with do with their own affairs.
3- Bangladesh : India should be fortunate that BD is the only Islamic nation which is the most secular nation among Muslim nations...We always makes issue of BD immigrants coming to India...Even myself to be blamed for this too....But we have to practically think that, is it possible for any nation to stop this kind of immigration when the difference in economic disparity is compelling people to migrate?...Even country like USA having so much of resources, can not stop illegal immigration from Mexico. So it literally impossible to stop such kind of migration in a forceful way...Why can not my gov think some rational and practical way to handle such situation rather than always making noise about in general BD people....We have to understand that if also we blame the BD GOv, BD Gov nor the people are asking those poor guys to cross the border to India...So we complain too much unreasonable, it is just creating unfavorable situation.

I am not here mentioning about Pakistan and China as i am still drafting couple of things...But one thing for sure, when i go thorugh the concerns of these nations about us, i still find their protests and concerns about us very much genuine....SOmetimes, we always overestimate our strength where we are not relaly the same which we think of....Time has come for a deeper analysis of the people and our mindset....Our concern about Sri Lanka is exactly same the way Pakistan is concerned about Kashmir...How can we say in one hand that our concern to Lanka is good but Pakistan stand of Kashmir is not good...Is it not a mere hypocrisy...
 
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kill this guy he talked truth and its always dangerous to talk truth in front of mob :D

I do not think so Imran Sir....There people withing us( Of course not exactly me) as who thinks resonably..It is just a matter of bringing those thoughts to forefront...We have to really think in a radical way...The issue that is happening in Nepal, is just made me to think and analyze in a deep sense...But i am sure people like me are still there in many numbers from India who are ot hesitant to think rationally.

Why are you spreading lies? Madhesis are not of Indian origin but we are related to Indians. Understand the difference before spreading lies idiot.

There is nothing lie my dear friend...If you are Indian, then please come back to our mother land demand for the things whatever you can ask for in our democracy...And if you see yourself as Nepali people then you are welcome to do whatever you want...My point is that you can not have dual things at a time...If your demand is within Nepal, please work with Nepal Gov and i really do not want my Gov to exert any pressure for a domestic issue in Nepal.
 
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Then how the hell u're still alive?
i manage to stay away from mob - patli gali option always open

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@Kaniska
If world would have been Black or White then it would be easy to understand. Foreign policies of any nation is determined by many factors including the government, policies, timing and and Intelligence reports. Having an opinion and meddling on other's affairs are 2 different things.
If neighbour country is at war and their people are looking for refuge creates an issue for us. Bangladesh and Lankan Sinhali riots in 70s are examples of the same. You need to study all perspective and have knowledge to comment on the same which is missing currently on your article.
 
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Yeh, i think I am drunk, otherwise, i also get surprised why I am thinking like this???
That's why. go and sleep, foreign policies can't be decided based on emotions. We are not a banana republic. We don't want higher than mountain, sweeter than honey relationship with neighbors. We want to protect our national interest over and above any thing.
 
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please allow me to start by correcting you on bangladesh being the most secular muslim country... any socialist muslim or muslim-majority country ( and there were quite a few at one point ) were secular in the true sense, having removed all reactionary forces by intellectual and armed engagement. :)

to your point about nepal, i agree with your suggestion ( to my understanding ) that india should not be make hostile moves or statement in the matter of their attempt to draw up a secular, progressive constitution... it was always wrong for indian establishment/military to lend support to the nepal royalist forces when many ordinary or at least the intellectuals were so clearly support the communists one way or another... indeed, kingship goes against democracy, whether in saudia or in nepal or in britain or in brunei.

there are reactionary forces in nepal ( all communities ) who don't want a secular constitution... these people will fail in time.

i will stretch your mention of bangladesh and sri lanka... irrespective of the histories, these two countries have done the most in south asia towards removing poverty, bringing sanitation, upholding the rights of ladies and so on... we from india, pakistan and afghanistan have a lot to learn from our small neighbors.

will wait for your addition for pakistan and china.

lastly, it is my serious and sincere hope that within 15 years, india, pakistan, bangladesh, nepal and afghanistan can be a unified society/state/entity that is driven not by religion but a humane and scientific social/political system.

regards,
jamahir.
 
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This post is nothing about any article or document that i am referring to rather, it is a thought in my mind.
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There is definitely some serious issue with our foreign policy issues.How come, on the people to people level, we are always at odd with our neighboring nations. Again, i am not referring to even Gov to Gov thing. Rather very much on people to people basis. I can see the posts that is posted by my Indian friends that includes me too. The entire content of this conversastion is to defend or argue withe all people of my neighourhood....Even people from Nepal is complaining....Is it not somethihg, our Indian friends should really think about...We have to admit that we have really serious issue with our approch when deal with our neighour.
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How can we say in one hand that our concern to Lanka is good but Pakistan stand of Kashmir is not good...Is it not a mere hypocrisy...

Good to see some sane Indian voice in the forum. :-)

lastly, it is my serious and sincere hope that within 15 years, india, pakistan, bangladesh, nepal and afghanistan can be a unified society/state/entity that is driven not by religion but a humane and scientific social/political system.

regards,
jamahir.

It's best to let go of Afghanistan and Pakistan. They had little to do with us before the British came and even littler to do after the 2 nation theory died.
More like a unified India, BD, Nepal and Sri Lanka - at least unified by a more effective replacement for SAARC, if not as one big unified political entity! :cheers:
 
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