India and his dreams

[jamahir]

Don't concern yourselves with us. We will take care of our own. You just worry about indian Muslims and other gangus and we will look after Pakistan and Pakistanis.

1. This thread is about Kashmir so a wider mention of India and Pakistan will enter.

2. I speak of the troubles and concerns of Muslims in Indian Kashmir and I also speak of the troubles and concerns of the Kashmiri Pandit refugees. There must be something like Nelson Mandela's Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

3. There are many Pakistanis too who desire peace with India, the most well-known being the Aman Ki Asha people.

4. Pakistan internally is not some harmonious welfare state. If Mashal Khan had not been lynched he would have been termed by some PDF Pakistanis as a "Liberal traitor". What's wrong if I suggest some solution to this ?? Mashal's ideology was universal.

One thing more Kashmir is in our blood.its our heart and soul. So never ever you and your countryman think that we will leave it at brahman's mercy. Thanks

Please read post# 7.

 

[Behram Khilji]

Are you another account of @PAKISTANFOREVER ?? A bit more elaborate but the same sentiment.

By the way, I edited-in this in my previous post which you missed :

And would you not like the current money and other resources that is spent by the Pakistani military in position against India, to be instead spent on making Pakistan a welfare state where there are things like high quality free medical system like in Cuba ??
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I don't want to be a welfare state I am happy with what I got on my beautiful hills of Balochistan, I don't want peace, peace I will get plenty when I am dead.
I want rage, I want blood, I want power, I want Pakistan that extends from Amu Darya to East Punjab & Sistan Balochistan under its banner.

I want to be feared I don't want to be respected, I want Pakistan to be feared like how a Punjabi kid is in a village when his mamma tells him best not go too far and play or the Big Pukhtoon will take you away in a Ganny Bag.

 

[blueazure]

India and Pakistan need to settle this childish fight over Kashmir once and for all. Peacefully and politically.

One way is as below.

1. Both countries should adopt the same Progressive political system. Two separate, independent republics but with the same political system, much like what pre-2003 Iraq and Syria were with their same Ba'athist systems.

2. Let India-administered Kashmir and Pakistan-administered Kashmir remain with the respective countries.

3. Convert the LoC into an International Border that is crossable for trade, tourism and family visits.

All this will make the separatists in India-administered Kashmir to understand that their desire to join Pakistan-administered Kashmir is unnecessary because both countries will have become the same, politically.

Further, with separatist militancy reduced in IAK, what will remain is Regressive, religious militancy or activism ( for example, of Asiya Andrabi ) which can be controlled and removed with social support from the Progressives among the local civilians. The side effect will also be a drastic removal of the current military force which will lead to more goodwill for the peace project.

Lastly, I would like the refugee Kashmiri Pandits to be allowed to return back to the Valley.

@Joe Shearer @jbgt90

@RealNapster @Moonlight @Mentee and our Kashmiri friend @Zibago

I hope the OP will see peace is better.

B.S

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

1. This thread is about Kashmir so a wider mention of India and Pakistan will enter.

2. I speak of the troubles and concerns of Muslims in Indian Kashmir and I also speak of the troubles and concerns of the Kashmiri Pandit refugees. There must be something like Nelson Mandela's Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

3. There are many Pakistanis too who desire peace with India, the most well-known being the Aman Ki Asha people.

4. Pakistan internally is not some harmonious welfare state. If Mashal Khan had not been lynched he would have been termed by some PDF Pakistanis as a "Liberal traitor". What's wrong if I suggest some solution to this ?? Mashal's ideology was universal.



Please read post# 7.

Most people in Pakistan just don't care about india. I know because I have been to Pakistan 37 times. It's just Kashmir when we mention india, that's it. In fact the internal issues within Iran and Afghanistan have a greater impact on us than anything that happens in india.

Don't worry about the welfare of Pakistan and the type of nation we are. You are not one of us so it's none of your business. In fact, you are our enemies. You need to worry about your kind not being raped and murdered by your fellow deformed hindu retards..........

I don't want to be a welfare state I am happy with what I got on my beautiful hills of Balochistan, I don't want peace, peace I will get plenty when I am dead.
I want rage, I want blood, I want power, I want Pakistan that extends from Amu Darya to East Punjab & Sistan Balochistan under its banner.

I want to be feared I don't want to be respected, I want Pakistan to be feared like how a Punjabi kid is in a village when his mamma tells h best not go too far and play or the Big Pulhtoon will take you away in a Ganny Bag.

Unfortunately indian so called "Muslims" have been brought up on the fear and worship of gangu hindus........

 

[Behram Khilji]

YoungPakBrother mine,

Muslims of MaqboozaHindustan are living in horrible conditions and their appeasement strategy of survival is now broken...

We must show compassion as OurDeen teaches us...

Regarding, MYTeaIndia ... well we can NEVER forget APS or terrorism in OurBalochistan.... all in due time...

Our primary goal is turning Kabulistan into Afghanistan ...first!

Cut off Kabuli/RAW nexus for good...so that our back is safe.... even now we stand exposed to Indian terrorism...

Besides, Pak's natural thrust must be towards CenteralAsia and Eurasia .... all the way to CaspianSea... we need that road badly!

Emotions can cloud Strategy.... but you are YoungPak full of Passion... so undersstandable!

For now we let Indian simmer in its own juices....

Mangus

Sorry brother I understand your sentiments, but you must understand a snake will bite you regardless what religion he is.

These people were jumping up and down on our pain and were wishing for our demise with their genetic brothers Hindus, that's truth.

I come from a very different background and region from you, once the trust is gone it's gone, ok we can say no love, no hate, no feelings or trust you on your path and I on mine.

That's how they should be treated, we are culturally different, genetically different, culturally different and physically very different.

When you talk about culture, Pukhtoons are very aggressive,( I am a Ghilza/Khalji/Khilji we are taking about them not us) they have that natural rage, aggression, no second thought.

Now they love fighting, no it's not all correct some join this and that because they are poor, yes that has some element of truth but the big is they love a good scrap, so why don't Pakistan utilise that, why not use such people for states advantage.

Our neighbours to the east are just doing that in Afghanistan.

 

[jamahir]

I don't want to be a welfare state I am happy with what I got on my beautiful hills of Balochistan, I don't want peace, peace I will get plenty when I am dead.
I want rage, I want blood, I want power, I want Pakistan that extends from Amu Darya to East Punjab & Sistan Balochistan under its banner.

I want to be feared I don't want to be respected, I want Pakistan to be feared like how a Punjabi kid is in a village when his mamma tells him best not go too far and play or the Big Pukhtoon will take you away in a Ganny Bag.

And you got two thanks for such a silly post. Amazing !!

When you talk about culture, Pukhtoons are very aggressive,( I am a Ghilza/Khalji/Khilji we are taking about them not us) they have that natural rage, aggression, no second thought.

Mashal Khan was also a Pukhtoon but he thought different than you.

 

[vishwambhar]

India and Pakistan two natural brothers don't trust each other and that is the sad truth....

I mean we look same, we eat same... all Indian love dal rice and subji and all Pakistani love same.... we speak and understand same language.... even then Pakistan loves and trust China more who gave them Covid 19....

Why Pakistan hates India so much? Why? Why? Why? Can anyone tell me? I'm really curious.....

 

[El Sidd]

India and Pakistan need to settle this childish fight over Kashmir once and for all. Peacefully and politically.

One way is as below.

1. Both countries should adopt the same Progressive political system. Two separate, independent republics but with the same political system, much like what pre-2003 Iraq and Syria were with their same Ba'athist systems.

2. Let India-administered Kashmir and Pakistan-administered Kashmir remain with the respective countries.

3. Convert the LoC into an International Border that is crossable for trade, tourism and family visits.

All this will make the separatists in India-administered Kashmir to understand that their desire to join Pakistan-administered Kashmir is unnecessary because both countries will have become the same, politically.

Further, with separatist militancy reduced in IAK, what will remain is Regressive, religious militancy or activism ( for example, of Asiya Andrabi ) which can be controlled and removed with social support from the Progressives among the local civilians. The side effect will also be a drastic removal of the current military force which will lead to more goodwill for the peace project.

Lastly, I would like the refugee Kashmiri Pandits to be allowed to return back to the Valley.

@Joe Shearer @jbgt90

@RealNapster @Moonlight @Mentee and our Kashmiri friend @Zibago

I hope the OP will see peace is better.

So you want full scale war instead of a limited one?

Pakistan is ready alhumdulilah

 

[jamahir]

So you want full scale war instead of a limited one?

Pakistan is ready alhumdulilah

I mentioned the peace-loving late Mashal Khan, didn't I ??

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/india-and-his-dreams.662577/page-2#post-12260315

 

[El Sidd]

I mentioned the peace-loving late Mashal Khan, didn't I ??

No one knows how many Mashal Khan rose and were killed in India.

Do not attribute false on the dead. Have some respect for them even if you believe you will live 8 more times.

What a joke, we wont occupy you even if you begged us to. Remember your 93,000 soldiers surrendered to us, we could have then.As long as there are fundamentalists in pak and have civilian weapons, its not worth.What will most probably happen is Balochistan will declare freedom as well as Pushtunistan.Pakistan will become a minor state.

is this a new dream?

 

[SIPRA]

India and Pakistan two natural brothers don't trust each other and that is the sad truth....

I mean we look same, we eat same... all Indian love dal rice and subji and all Pakistani love same.... we speak and understand same language.... even then Pakistan loves and trust China more who gave them Covid 19....

Why Pakistan hates India so much? Why? Why? Why? Can anyone tell me? I'm really curious.....

Why did Kaurav and Padav fight?

 

[Ultima Thule]

What a joke, we wont occupy you even if you begged us to. Remember your 93,000 soldiers surrendered to us, we could have then.As long as there are fundamentalists in pak and have civilian weapons, its not worth.What will most probably happen is Balochistan will declare freedom as well as Pushtunistan.Pakistan will become a minor state.

93000 IS A WRONG FIGURE 30000 THE RIGHT FIGURE REST OF THEM CIVILIANS THIS ALREADY DEBUNKED BY SENIORS HERE ON PDF
AND ARE YOU HIGH ON DRUG LIKE MARIJUANA AND COCAINE???

 

[jamahir]

Do not attribute false on the dead.

False ?? So he didn't like peace and virulently hated India ??

but you must understand a snake will bite you regardless what religion he is.

Me a snake ??

@El Sidd has described me as a cat.

Why Pakistan hates India so much? Why? Why? Why? Can anyone tell me? I'm really curious.....

Saying that the whole of Pakistan hates India is an exaggeration, actually untrue. For example, the Salman film Bajrangi Bhaijaan was much appreciated in Pakistan and there is the Indo-Pak peace project Aman Ki Asha. There is also another peace project whose name I forgot but whose members are former soldiers of both countries.

Watch this vid about Swara Bhaskar talking enthusiastically on a Pakistani TV talk show about her trip through that country.

 

[El Sidd]

False ?? So he didn't like peace and virulently hated India ??

ask people who know him. i did not and i just asked you to not attribute things you would like to see in an individual after his death.

you are pretty shameless in your bias aren't you RSS scum.

 

[jamahir]

you are pretty shameless in your bias aren't you RSS scum.

Me from RSS ?? Are you drunk ??