India, Afghanistan plan air cargo link over Pakistan

[IceCold]

we stop your access to Nepal . Srilanka , and E asian countries , take longer route.....via china .....

You already did that once. Didnt affected us as much as it did to India when we returned the favour. You are welcome to try it again.

 

[Evora]

I used to live with afghanis, indians and bangalis overseas for more than a decade and I found afghanis more racist and hatters towards Pakistan than anyone else which was quite shocking for me. They are not trust worthy people. They will stab u in the back wen times come. So dont be silly with the muslim brotherhood thing.

 

[Asim Mirza]

Pakistan must accept the fact that Afghanistan has become apart of Hindustan. Afghanistan is a province of New Delhi and Afghans should not call themselves an independent nation. Mr Ghani and his predecessor Mr Karzai have always wanted a special union and merger with Hindustan.

If Afghans are part of india then kick all refugees out and throw them in india

let the india feel the heat

believe me we kept these Afghans as like pakistani past 40 years

India Cant keep them for 1 Day

( i want to be a trump for these afghans Just kick them Out throw them in india say no to US on afghans refugees )

Simple

 

[M.SAAD]

Lol goodluck with that..

Pakistan can close its airspace anytime for Indians in hostile situations ..

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

So since all Afghani airlines are banned in European airspace, Pakistan does have leverage.

Yes Pakistan can ban Afghan registered airlines. However Indian Airlines can not be banned. Most of the charter operators that operate in Afghanistan are UAE licence holders.

The issue while operating flights to Afghanistan is high insurance costs. Till coalition forces are present Afghanistan has cargo available for both sectors operating from UAE. I am not aware of how much cargo and at what rate is available from Afghanistan to India hence can not say how viable would these flights be. Still the possibility of Perishable items and courier would still be feasible to operate between India and Afghanistan.

 

[Hareeb]

Keep calm guys. The point is, Is this air cargo link will be economical or not as compared to sea-land (through iran)? Everyone wants to earn profit. So if this link is not economical, no one is going to use this.

 

[Khafee]

Yes Pakistan can ban Afghan registered airlines. However Indian Airlines can not be banned. Most of the charter operators that operate in Afghanistan are UAE licence holders.

The issue while operating flights to Afghanistan is high insurance costs. Till coalition forces are present Afghanistan has cargo available for both sectors operating from UAE. I am not aware of how much cargo and at what rate is available from Afghanistan to India hence can not say how viable would these flights be. Still the possibility of Perishable items and courier would still be feasible to operate between India and Afghanistan.

The license holder can be from the UAE, but is it UAE airspace or Pakistani?

Can anyone just waltz into Pakistani airspace and cross it at will?

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Air cargo will break the Indian economy it's not only expensive but where it is going they can't afford t that's why richest countries who can afford air cargo don't use it


Pakistan should not allow it's air space for cargo services let cargo planes take longer route which will effect more on Indian economy fact is neither Afghanistan is growing economy which can sustain if even it sustain than its all major resources will be eaten to pay for cargo flights if india pays it it will break Indian back in matter of months

Air Cargo has evolved over the years hence saying it will break a countries economy is not entirely accurate. Old times had pure cargo aircraft where as today an A330 or B777 can carry passengers and cargo together making the flights profitable without being a dedicated cargo aircraft.

Still the requirement of bulk cargo aircraft like AN224 and B747 is wide open.

The license holder can be from the UAE, but is it UAE airspace or Pakistani?

Pakistan can not close her airspace for the entire world as this would amount to closure of world airspace for Pakistani registered airlines.

 

[Khafee]

Pakistan can not close her airspace for the entire world as this would amount to closure of world airspace for Pakistani registered airlines.

Are you saying Pakistan cannot restrict it's airspace, for flights to and from Afghanistan?

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Can anyone just waltz into Pakistani airspace and cross it at will?

No. They have to take permission to enter,overfly or land. Pakistan may deny them permission if there is a reason but not entirely.

 

[Khafee]

No. They have to take permission to enter,overfly or land. Pakistan may deny them permission if there is a reason but not entirely.

There you go. Why was it so difficult to say that?

 

[HttpError]

Lol what happened to Super Afghan race ? Currently I just seem them as slaves of "Baniyas" and "Daal Khors"

 

[Zee-shaun]

NO

Chicago Convention 1944 is signed by both Pakistan and India which covers usage of airspace.



Yes, This can be done.

Still this is a difficult and costly process. Moreover what ever procedue one country follows the other would reply in kind.

Civil and commercial routes from Pakistan to Dhaka over Indian air space were suspended during the '65 and '71 war. Then again after the Parliament attack India denied access to PIA which resulted in suspension of flights to Bangkok, Kualalumpur, Manila and Jakarta. The ban lasted almost a year.

We can do the same if political situation deteriorates.

Not denying the feelings of the common Pakistanis, but you do know the commoners are just a bunch of goats being herded by the elites and the in the upper echelons of the establishemtns. It was in your interest to to spin that Afghans are brothers because you needed them to bleed the soviets. The same Afghans are now drug dealers when the establishment has spun it otherwise.

Bottom line, there is no morality in geopolitics, you used Afghans because it was in your interest, the commoners may no ulterior motives but its not the commoners that in the driving seat of the policy making in Pakistan, is it ?

We will milk the US, India, Israel, Pakistan .... China and whoever which serves our interests [realpolitik], it is not being cocky it is being in tune in how the world works.

If it wasn't for Pakistan and the US to raise the mujahideen, the Soviet Union would still be intact, you would have been completely absorbed into the CCCP and would be speaking Russian.

Take a guess which country would have supported Moscow by recognising Afghanistan to be part of Soviet Union.

@The Eagle

The only thing Pakistan has to watch out is smuggling. There is a very small economy present in Afghanistan. Most of their population is too poor and dislocated to become a proper market. Most of the goods Afghanistan import are "duty free".
Many of Afghan government officials and warlords are involved in this. These duty free goods find their way into Pakistan through various smuggling routes.
Some years back there was a report on Afghan transit trade and its associated smuggling.
They picked up examples of few goods like LCDs and tyres.
Afghanistan imported more then 50000 LCDs. It is a strange and ridiculously large number for a country like Afghanistan. It was clearly an example of parallel economy via smuggling.
Other was of tyres, if all the cars and trucks registered in Afghanistan change their tyres every day, even then the number of tyres imported by Afghanistan are more then that..

When Pakistan tries to put duties on Afghan transit trade goods so to secure itself from this huge loss, Afghans cry wolf,,,
Open the route for Indians, see what will happen. The goods which are now smuggled via Dubai will reach direct;y from Amritsar. Result will be disastrous for already ailing industry of Pakistan.

So these are very sensitive issue for Pakistan economy. Sadly our government and bureaucracy is not capable to tackle this matter. Their should be restrictions and duty mechanism as such, which will leave smuggled goods not capable to penetrate Pakistan market. After that open Indian-Afghan trade, then you will see the red faces of Indians and Afghans.
One other issue is our porous border with Afghanistan.

Time window is getting shorter for us. We will have to get our acts together real fast, if we want to be on winning side in this economic war.

Excellent post Sir.

 

[pakdefender]

Let them go for it , more money down the toilet

It will just be a subsidized dog and pony show with no real gain

 

[Post Colonnial]

The sheer cost of air transport will ensure what is sent is limited. Pakistan will stand to lose too much in international reputation by blocking this little measure.