Incursions in Ladakh, a prelude a coming war with China, says analyst Bhara

[AUSTERLITZ]

We already invaded India earlier this year. India did not fight back. We could nuke New Delhi and they would do nothing about it.

Not much,just end chinese civilization permanently.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Not much,just end chinese civilization permanently.

Both China and India have a "No First Use" policy. So we can storm right into Delhi and you won't be able to use anything.

Also, India's nuclear arsenal is only 1 megaton total, made up of mostly 20 kt fission devices, no thermonuclear warheads at all.

Whereas even one single Chinese nuke is around 4 megatons. One single Chinese nuke has more explosive power than the entire Indian nuclear arsenal.

Not to mention that the Tibetan border is right next to the Ganges river delta as well as New Delhi. We can strike them with even short range missiles, while you have to cross several thousand kilometers to even reach or major cities.

Your only missile with that kind of range is the Agni V, which hasn't even been inducted yet.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Message not received!! Your Chinese Cell-phones dont work correctly!!

how about internet?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Both China and India have a "No First Use" policy. So we can storm right into Delhi and you won't be able to use anything.

Also, India's nuclear arsenal is only 1 megaton total, made up of mostly 20 kt fission devices, no thermonuclear warheads at all.

Whereas even one single Chinese nuke is around 4 megatons. One single Chinese nuke has more explosive power than the entire Indian nuclear arsenal.

Not to mention that the Tibetan border is right next to the Ganges river delta as well as New Delhi. We can strike them with even short range missiles, while you have to cross several thousand kilometers to even reach or major cities.

Your only missile with that kind of range is the Agni V, which hasn't even been inducted yet.

Plz this one megaton fart is from 90s,we have far expanded our nuke arsenal after civil nuke deal especially so keep ur delusions to urself.As for storming into delhi,why don't u try it.Invading the mainland of a 1.25 billion country, will there be anything left of PLA?
As for for my troll comment that u replied to,it was actually a counter troll comment to a chinese troll named slavery not some expert opinion.Just something u do when u get irate with some noob.Several thousand KMs don't matter to missiles.Especially with late agnis now ready .

 

[Tractor]

Nisha ji 1962 was at best a border war not a full scale one
& then there were idiots on both sides
Now both leaders know that to finish western hegemony we must work together

You must be clever enough to know that Indian same as western to our orientals.
We know who we should work together with-all the countries eastern to us.

 

[shree835]

Repeated Chinese Military Intrusions on Line of Actual Control (LAC) also known as the MacCartney-MacDonald Line which is the effective border between India and the People’s Republic of China, have made many Defence Think tanks come up with their own set of answers on what china is up to and what it wants to achieve ? And what are the larger plans they are working on since there are repeated Intrusions by their Army.

Many think tanks consider that China wants to impose their border solution on India or even built up a crisis which will lead to a small military clash with India, by hitting India, China wants to send a clear message to smaller neighbours like Japan and Vietnam to Back off, and agree on their terms for many disputes it has with them and other countries in Asia.

Japan and Vietnam have been rallying behind India to take a dominant role to face China, since India is only country which has the Military Strength to take on the Military might of China, India so far has been reluctant to be face of this military nexus, and be a leader of this Union. but China in past has done everything it can to contain India, China’s special friendship with arch rival of India, Pakistan and their behind the door supply of missiles and weapons to curtain India to south Asia is not working any more, India Military planners are now confident that they can take care of any threats which Pakistan can throw at India, and have been building force to fight twin war scenario. This has made china come out in open and clash with India, rather than its ineffective proxy Pakistan which has been doing since job for china in past.

But Chinese aggression in LAC or even a small military clash with Indian forces will seriously backfire on Chinese planners on many fronts, not only it will show Chinese has aggressors, but it will allow rise and growth of a anti-china military nexus between various countries .

Democratic India attacked by communist China, no matter how small the clashes will be, it will be all out war in International media against China, India can bet on support from International media with their eyes closed on this matter and bad publicity of china worldwide is rest assured, this also will also have troubling effect on china’s already slowing economy. India’s global image and its soft power has worked in past and china will find it hard to negate denting of china’s image happening at world stage.

After their exist from Afghanistan, US forces are looking out to have some permanent bases in South Asia , if this clashes do take place since every military pundit is prophesying about it , American military will be the biggest beneficiary out of it , since many countries in south Asia might allow US military presence has a deterrence to china , India too which has not allowed US military bases on its territories might have to do a re-think , since all point of keeping US out of South Asia was to not provoke china .

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[Manindra]

You have to bet on your own muscles not on International media or powers. GOI works slow but steady.

 

[Tshering22]

This is all provided the next government next year doesn't support Chinese incursions the way current ruling government does by suppressing the news to the people.

I am sure that with the coming new government (Especially considering who will be leading it ) in 2014, these incursions can be taken care of in a more pro-active manner rather than reactive and laggard mum that currently dominates the strategic horizon due to obvious reasons.

You have to bet on your own muscles not on International media or powers. GOI works slow but steady.

GOI?

What GOI?

Most of the incursions taking place are down-played so severely it is almost like the current 'GOI' is supporting CCP.

It should not take time because we have reasons to be concerned at our border.

With Pakistan on the brink, China is coming out more and more in the open and they are modernizing military at a break-neck speed.

All while all our super-duper projects are stuck at tender levels thanks to the inept practices of the government officials.

 

[Tshering22]

I guess the Indians on PDF agree with Bharat Verma but are taking instructions before commenting ...

We agree with him completely.


Especially this paragraph below, the bolded lines:

Verma also said that the Chinese strategy has chosen the present time to provoke India because they are aware that New Delhi is not prepared. He further said that the Chinese are also aware that India might have a "no-nonsense" government from the 2014 Lok Sabha elections and considerably increase their military strength in the coming years to counter China. As a result, Verma said, the present time makes India a "soft-target" which is vulnerable right now.

Even the CCP knows who's coming to power in 2014.

Nisha ji 1962 was at best a border war not a full scale one
& then there were idiots on both sides
Now both leaders know that to finish western hegemony we must work together

Not when territory is compromised.


Acting dove then is stupid.

 

[acetophenol]

I don't want India to be thd part of any anti-china nexus,because that would be like digging our own grave.
We are very much economically dependant on China,and so are they on us,though in a lesser extent.
We must gradually raise ourselves to be a economic and military power to match them.
However,we shouldn't hesitate to use our relations and power if the need arises.

 

[Ganges Zephyr]

Stop ranting you defense article writers for one simple reason: If tomorrow China chose to attack India (skirmish, border conflict, whatever), It would not care about bad publicity, it would be for gains much greater than what will be lost. And since when the superpowers care about image?? USA has image due to its money and superpower status not because its saint

Its so very frustrating to always read that China will hold back for being labeled aggressor, for losing face in international media and blah, blah, blah.......more than this...these idiot writers seems to COMFORT themselves by blabbering these stupid logics. If you want to feel safe, force government to strengthen our country. Period.

 

[Manindra]

This is all provided the next government next year doesn't support Chinese incursions the way current ruling government does by suppressing the news to the people.

I am sure that with the coming new government (Especially considering who will be leading it ) in 2014, these incursions can be taken care of in a more pro-active manner rather than reactive and laggard mum that currently dominates the strategic horizon due to obvious reasons.



GOI?

What GOI?

Most of the incursions taking place are down-played so severely it is almost like the current 'GOI' is supporting CCP.

It should not take time because we have reasons to be concerned at our border.

With Pakistan on the brink, China is coming out more and more in the open and they are modernizing military at a break-neck speed.

All while all our super-duper projects are stuck at tender levels thanks to the inept practices of the government officials.

We know nothing that whats happen in south block. We are civilians & I didn't want here good-2 news but in reality we fail miserably like our neighbour fed their people in 1971 that they are advance in eastern sector but in reality they bow down with more than 93000 POWs.
GOI policy will be same its not matter who is in government, Congress or BJP.

We are late but improve our infrastructure in north-east region. I agree with you that we want higher efficiency which we lacks & I expect next government would higher efficient but policy is slow but steady in long run.

 

[faithfulguy]

We know nothing that whats happen in south block. We are civilians & I didn't want here good-2 news but in reality we fail miserably like our neighbour fed their people in 1971 that they are advance in eastern sector but in reality they bow down with more than 93000 POWs.
GOI policy will be same its not matter who is in government, Congress or BJP.

We are late but improve our infrastructure in north-east region. I agree with you that we want higher efficiency which we lacks & I expect next government would higher efficient but policy is slow but steady in long run.

The reason India choose to ignore the infrastructure in the NE region is to slow down Chinese advances in case they attack. And India is compensate this with air lift capabilities and helicopter gun ships. Most of which is purchased from America.

 

[faithfulguy]

We agree with him completely.


Especially this paragraph below, the bolded lines:



Even the CCP knows who's coming to power in 2014.



Not when territory is compromised.


Acting dove then is stupid.

Why 2014? Is it possible that an earlier election be called.

 

[Manindra]

The reason India choose to ignore the infrastructure in the NE region is to slow down Chinese advances in case they attack. And India is compensate this with air lift capabilities and helicopter gun ships. Most of which is purchased from America.

Thats not reason. In India military commanders does not have power to make policy in defence matters its duty of civilian bureaucracy. Which read turtle & rabbit story in their childhood & truely follows them.