In response to letter of HRW to PM Imran, Dr Mazari writes back to US based HRW organization.

[insight-out]

Letter made no specific, unambiguous promises about the rights of women and minority groups on the part of Pakistan

Mazari or the government of Pakistan owes no explanations or promises to HRW, you or the US government, none of whom have the credibility or moral authority to ask question of anyone else about human rights.

 

[Solomon2]

Mazari or the government of Pakistan owes no explanations or promises to HRW, you or the US government -

Red herrings. Rather, the HRW letter reminds IK of his pledges to the people of Pakistan:

Dear Prime Minister Khan,

As your government takes charge, we write to you...In your speech, after your party’s successful campaign, you pledged to uphold the rights of women and minority groups...​

etc., etc.

 

[The Diplomat]

@Solomon2 you talk about women rights however by looking at the United States's history it seems that you have no legitimate reason to talk. I don't remember the United States electing a female head of state, what I do remember is your President objectifying females. I remember the US ambassador to the UN turning a blind eye to the human rights violations taking place by Israel, in which the whole world condemned the moving of Israel's capital however the US and Israel stood together solo.

Guantanamo bay has been home to several people with out any trials conducted. I'm sure that Guantanamo bay does not meet the human rights commissions recommendations. Were there no human rights violations during the so called "WMD" period?

I would suggest you advocate to fix your own national problems before commenting on another country's national situation.

 

[Solomon2]

...I don't remember the United States electing a female head of state, what I do remember is your President objectifying females. I remember the US ambassador to the UN turning a blind eye to the human rights violations...

So you have selective memory issues, got it.

 

[insight-out]

Red herrings. Rather, the HRW letter reminds IK of his pledges to the people of Pakistan:

Dear Prime Minister Khan,

As your government takes charge, we write to you...In your speech, after your party’s successful campaign, you pledged to uphold the rights of women and minority groups...​

etc., etc.

Like I said, HRW or the US government do not have the credibility or moral authority to ask questions of anyone else (or remind anyone, or even speak to anyone else) about human rights.

 

[The Diplomat]

So you have selective memory issues, got it.

What's with the hyperlink, it goes to your wall.

Care to explain the "selective memory issue"? I don't remember a female President.

 

[Solomon2]

What's with the hyperlink, it goes to your wall.

Fixed.

Care to explain the "selective memory issue"? I don't remember a female President.

Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

- Matthew 7:3​

 

[Solomon2]

Like I said, HRW or the US government -

Conflating HRW with the U.S. gov't? Apparently you're trying to encourage Pakistani distrust of HRW by smearing them with Pakistani distrust of the U.S. Not honest at all, so Pakistani readers here can evaluate your credibility by this measure.

 

[Zibago]

Conflating HRW with the U.S. gov't? Apparently you're trying to encourage Pakistani distrust of HRW by smearing them with Pakistani distrust of the U.S. Not honest at all, so Pakistani readers here can evaluate your credibility by this measure.

The US govt was caught on record saying that it will use human rights as weapons to defame who they dislike

 

[Solomon2]

The US govt was caught on record saying that it will use human rights as weapons to defame who they dislike

By their own description (and as far as I can tell) HRW doesn't take orders or funds from the U.S. gov't: link

However, that doesn't mean they aren't taking orders secretly or indirectly from some gov't or another, right? Who can tell? So it's sensible to concentrate on the content, unless you can specifically refute their credibility. Otherwise, you accept full madness of conspiracy theorists upon yourself.

 

[insight-out]

Conflating HRW with the U.S. gov't? Apparently you're trying to encourage Pakistani distrust of HRW by smearing them with Pakistani distrust of the U.S. Not honest at all, so Pakistani readers here can evaluate your credibility by this measure.

No, I am not conflating the two. I am saying neither one of them have the credibility or moral authority to speak of human rights. You are either confused or trying to confuse others.

By their own description (and as far as I can tell) HRW doesn't take orders or funds from the U.S. gov't: link

However, that doesn't mean they aren't taking orders secretly or indirectly from some gov't or another, right? Who can tell? So it's sensible to concentrate on the content, unless you can specifically refute their credibility. Otherwise, you accept full madness of conspiracy theorists upon yourself.

Whether HRW accepts funds from the US government, the Japanese Yakuza, or the ADL, is irrelevant to this discussion. We may not know why they are not impartial.

But we do observe that they are often silent, or only mildly criticize human rights violations by some countries/groups, but vehemently and loudly condemn others.

This is what calls their credibility into question.

 

[Solomon2]

...But we do observe that they are often silent, or only mildly criticize human rights violations by some countries/groups, but vehemently and loudly condemn others.
This is what calls their credibility into question.

The link I provided is to their FAQ which explains their approach.

 

[insight-out]

The link I provided is to their FAQ which explains their approach.

Their website does not explain why they are biased. Do you have a link for that?