In India Muslim man arrested for marrying Hindu girl

[xeuss]

Listen, buddy, free and liberal Hindu majority India allows marriage between Hindu and Muslim without hindrance.

Lol....this very thread relates examples where Muslims are being prosecuted and you still insist otherwise. Andhbhakt!

 

[Hamza913]

Because that's how you treat minorities in ur country, they left with little choice

Not a day goes by when a Hindu girl abducted and his father crying in the middle of road or Ahmadi is shot simply being their identity. When you take pride of this, it looks ugly and inhuman to anyone with sense.

Yes, India is changing as they see what's happening to Hindus in Pakistan and also history of Muslim of the subcontinent.

You're literally doing exactly as I said you would

Whilst it is indeed true that minorities are mistreated in Pakistan, you state that in India this isn't the case. So why is it still the case that many more Hindus are becoming Muslim than vice versa within India? You can't chalk that up to entirely materialistic reasons, you can't even do so in Pakistan when people like Muhammad Yousef (a literal celebrity) converted to Islam from Christianity.

 

[Gilljutt]

You're literally doing exactly as I said you would

Whilst it is indeed true that minorities are mistreated in Pakistan, you state that in India this isn't the case. So why is it still the case that many more Hindus are becoming Muslim than vice versa within India? You can't chalk that up to entirely materialistic reasons, you can't even do so in Pakistan when people like Muhammad Yousef (a literal celebrity) converted to Islam from Christianity.

Why not convert. Minorities are second class citizens in an Islamic republic.

 

[Adonis]

Hindus and Sikhs will always claim their girl was kidnapped and forced to convert, even when the girl herself swears under oath in a court of law that she doesn't want to have anything to do with her family, is converting to Islam and wants to marry the Muslim boy in question of her own volition. Just recall the Jagjit Kaur aka Ayesha episode. Her Sikh family continued to insist she was kidnapped even after she gave her testimony before the courts.

If the reverse would have happened , Muslims would have Killed the groom. We all know the reality how tolerant Muslims are on interfaith marriage of their girls but can't stop cherry-picking on others.

Why non-muslim girls are so keen to get converted...why it is not the reverse side? the answer is known to everyone.

 

[Hamza913]

Why not convert. Minorities are second class citizens in an Islamic republic.

We're discussing a celebrity who has now been disowned by his mother due to converting. Absolutely insufficient material reason to convert, and plenty of reason not to.

You just can't fathom large swathes of people opting for Islam over other religions, which is quite arrogant.

 

[KhanBaba2]

As if laws are equally applied in India. We all know the purpose of such laws is to harass Muslims. In fact, the only reason you support such laws is because they are precisely designed to harass Muslims.

Could we say that the law that does not allow Muslims to not marry Hindus without conversion is created to harass Hindus.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

No, India isn't a civilised nation.

Islamic republic of Pakistan can show India the way by allowing marriage btw Hindus and Muslims without conversion. By allowing non-Muslims including Ahmadis equal right to practice and propagate their religion and built their place of worship without Hindrance. By removing blasphemy laws which carries death sentence and Finally, allow non-Muslims to become head of the state.

I would have agrEed with you ten years ago, but brahminism is now an existential threat and must be eradicated for the benefit of dalits, Muslims, Sikhs and even non-brahiminist Hindus. It is a cult invented by slave drivers and still promotes and propagates modern day slavery. It will be stopped at its gangetic source. Then south Asia will see peace and prosperity for ALL.

Could we say that the law that does not allow Muslims to not marry Hindus without conversion is created to harass Hindus.

No. It is to degrade and destroy the cult of hindutva. Once that is achieved, we will have our "Ashoka moment". First, trash needs eradicating and only then can freedom prosper.

 

[samv]

I don't see how Muslims would have a problem with this law without having a problem with Islamic teachings that prohibit Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men.

 

[jamahir]

Why, women or men who don’t believe in the Abrahamic religion have to convert to Islam. Why is this a problem in a secular society like India?

k

Sorry I didn't understand. Can you elaborate ?

It is already happening and has been happening , but more amongst the westernised class. For it to happen in the masses people would have to change a lot on both sides, it will take atleast another 100 years lol, there is suspicion and deep rooted hate , but eventually we would move towards it

Well, a lot of the Indian middle class has adopted some "Western" attributes but these people are also highly conservative. Inter-faith marriages in India I think happen among writer types, politicians and film industry people.

But like in the case of the couple in the OP, inter-faith marriages also happen among the lower-class not-so-sophisticated.

Heard of Kalinga? Yah he had his fun murdering and destroying like a homicidal maniac in the subcontinent before finally "repenting".

I hope the current BJP dispensation take inspiration from Ashoka and dial down their aggressive stance on many things.

In Pakistan a Non- Muslim can't marry a Muslim unless there conversion to Islam.

I don't know if it applies here but the Pakistani politician Salman Taseer had a marriage with the Indian Sikh journalist Tavleen Singh.

 

[Khan vilatey]

Same law applies to Hindus as well. A Hindu man cannot force his Muslim wife to convert. So where is the discrimination in this law?

Sorry I didn't understand. Can you elaborate ?



Well, a lot of the Indian middle class has adopted some "Western" attributes but these people are also highly conservative. Inter-faith marriages in India I think happen among writer types, politicians and film industry people.

But like in the case of the couple in the OP, inter-faith marriages also happen among the lower-class not-so-sophisticated.



I hope the current BJP dispensation take inspiration from Ashoka and dial down their aggressive stance on many things.



I don't know if it applies here but the Pakistani politician Salman Taseer had a marriage with the Indian Sikh journalist Tavleen Singh.

In India a so called secular state, why is it against the law for a Hindu women or man to change their religion to Islam (the one true religion) and marry a Muslim. Why is this illegal only in India

k

 

[jamahir]

In India a so called secular state, why is it against the law for a Hindu women or man to change their religion to Islam (the one true religion) and marry a Muslim. Why is this illegal only in India

k

1. About state opposition to conversion to Islam, it's a Hindutva movement in government which not only opposes conversion to Islam but also to "mass conversion" which is code word for Dalit conversion in groups to Buddhism.

2. About "one true religion", True Islam is a much progressive and thoughtful religion compared to the rest. Islam is not merely an another way of prayer ( which unfortunately many Muslims think it is ) but an entire socio-economic system to bring about a socialistic welfare state society ( you can read this sort of thing in this thread of mine about Islamic marriage laws ). However, there have been developments in the last two centuries in socio-economic philosophies which I think Islamic law should absorb. I speak of communist thought. In Islam land / estate can be privately owned but this creates space for disputes to occur. In communism land / estate is socially owned by default, which removes the existence for most disputes. Things like these.

 

[RoadRunner401]

I don't think all Muslims know that they cannot marry non Muslims

You mean they call themselves Muslims, but don't know Islam..

 

[Gilljutt]

In India a so called secular state, why is it against the law for a Hindu women or man to change their religion to Islam (the one true religion) and marry a Muslim. Why is this illegal only in India

k

Oh my god!!! It's not illegal. What is illegal is to force a conversion.

 

[Gilljutt]

We're discussing a celebrity who has now been disowned by his mother due to converting. Absolutely insufficient material reason to convert, and plenty of reason not to.

You just can't fathom large swathes of people opting for Islam over other religions, which is quite arrogant.

No I can ...but then why have inheritance, tax and other laws that only favour Muslims. Surely an individual will take all those factors into account when deciding to convert.

Inheritance laws are a big deal to farmers.

I believe discussing religion is against forum policies

 

[Gilljutt]

Lol....this very thread relates examples where Muslims are being prosecuted and you still insist otherwise. Andhbhakt!

Lol, half of Bollywood is Muslims married to Hindus. When Saif Ali Khan married Kareena Kapoor, Muslims raised a stink because he didn't force her to convert.

Didnt Jinnah force his wife to convert?