In China, we have brothers! In the West, we are slaves!

[Martian2]

In China, we have brothers! In the West, we are slaves!

In ten years, the issue of China-Taiwan reunification will become a serious topic. Firstly, the GDP per capita between China and Taiwan would have narrowed considerably. Secondly, China's economic and military might will be overwhelming. Reunification under the "One Country, Two Systems" becomes highly probable.

However, China-Taiwan reunification will need a good slogan. In ten years, most people would have forgotten about the pro-Russian Crimean protester. Now is a good time to give the guy credit, because I intend to borrow his slogan in the future.

Look at the big smile on his face. He knows he has the coolest political slogan ever.

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Russian Forces Flood Crimea; Ukraine Warns of War - NBC News

Pro-Russian protesters with Russian flags take part in a rally in central Donetsk March 1, 2014. The banner reads, "In Russia, we have brothers, In Europe, we are slaves."

 

[Rechoice]

Mao/Deng go to west 1968/1972, and taken the role of Taiwan.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I think Chiang Kai-shek was saying something similar about the Communists and that's why there is Taiwan right now.

 

[BoQ77]

I don't believe in the slogan ...

 

[bolo]

In China, we have brothers! In the West, we are slaves!

In ten years, the issue of China-Taiwan reunification will become a serious topic. Firstly, the GDP per capita between China and Taiwan would have narrowed considerably. Secondly, China's economic and military might will be overwhelming. Reunification under the "One Country, Two Systems" becomes highly probable.

However, China-Taiwan reunification will need a good slogan. In ten years, most people would have forgotten about the pro-Russian Crimean protester. Now is a good time to give the guy credit, because I intend to borrow his slogan in the future.

Look at the big smile on his face. He knows he has the coolest political slogan ever.

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Russian Forces Flood Crimea; Ukraine Warns of War - NBC News

Pro-Russian protesters with Russian flags take part in a rally in central Donetsk March 1, 2014. The banner reads, "In Russia, we have brothers, In Europe, we are slaves."

Do you believe a peaceful reunification is possible?

 

[BoQ77]

Chiang Kai shek name his country of R. O. C. ( Republic of China) implies for one day his men in Taiwan Hsien would collect back the China mainland !!!

Anyway his men and women have been living a better life than Chinese mainlanders.

 

[Genesis]

Do you believe a peaceful reunification is possible?

yes, peaceful reunification is the only way it will happen.

Taiwan's mandatory military service is over, it's population decreasing, it's economy stagnating, and its influence waning. All their talents are coming to China, while China keeps on trucking forward, they are spinning right where they are.

They have an enemy in Japan, relations with korea is economic buddies at best if that, and they are at odds with Philippines.

Their only option is to reunite, they may resist today, but soon they will need it.

China isn't pressuring Taiwan, just our existence is sucking the life out of them. So unless they want to be part of us, they will revert back to third world status. This isn't a prediction, it's a fact, and it's happening. As it turns out, 23 million people can't compete with 1.3 billion, who knew.

@BoQ77

Democratic Vietnam was better than commi Vietnam, maybe you should give those people back their land, millions of Vietnamese fled Vietnam Commis for other lands when the red plague came, so maybe worry about your self before about us.

YOU ARE COMMUNIST TOO, remember?

 

[bolo]

yes, peaceful reunification is the only way it will happen.

Taiwan's mandatory military service is over, it's population decreasing, it's economy stagnating, and its influence waning. All their talents are coming to China, while China keeps on trucking forward, they are spinning right where they are.

They have an enemy in Japan, relations with korea is economic buddies at best if that, and they are at odds with Philippines.

Their only option is to reunite, they may resist today, but soon they will need it.

China isn't pressuring Taiwan, just our existence is sucking the life out of them. So unless they want to be part of us, they will revert back to third world status. This isn't a prediction, it's a fact, and it's happening. As it turns out, 23 million people can't compete with 1.3 billion, who knew.

But that's playing into the hands of taiwan politicans. They want to have the same status quo but increased economic activities with China. That is not a good deal for China.

In ten years, China need to take back taiwan regardless of the methods used.

 

[terranMarine]

yes, peaceful reunification is the only way it will happen.

Taiwan's mandatory military service is over, it's population decreasing, it's economy stagnating, and its influence waning. All their talents are coming to China, while China keeps on trucking forward, they are spinning right where they are.

They have an enemy in Japan, relations with korea is economic buddies at best if that, and they are at odds with Philippines.

Their only option is to reunite, they may resist today, but soon they will need it.

China isn't pressuring Taiwan, just our existence is sucking the life out of them. So unless they want to be part of us, they will revert back to third world status. This isn't a prediction, it's a fact, and it's happening. As it turns out, 23 million people can't compete with 1.3 billion, who knew.

Taiwan's birthrate is very low, it's economy relies heavily on Mainland and their military power is no match against the PLA. The battle is already lost before it even started. Thing is China is not in a hurry to get Taiwan back, not pushing for an invasion but focusing on more economic cooperation instead. Sometimes i wonder if Beijing is really gonna push for a unification or just taking things slowly.

 

[Beidou2020]

I don't believe in the slogan ...

no one gives a damn what you think man

 

[bolo]

Taiwan's birthrate is very low, it's economy relies heavily on Mainland and their military power is no match against the PLA. The battle is already lost before it even started. Thing is China is not in a hurry to get Taiwan back, not pushing for an invasion but focusing on more economic cooperation instead. Sometimes i wonder if Beijing is really gonna push for a unification or just taking things slowly.

I don't think you can strictly use economics as a mean to bring submission to Taiwan. US and Japan can support them economically. sometimes you need to flex some muscles. Can you imagine what will happen to Taiwan stock market and overall economy if China announce they will take them back by force?

 

[BoQ77]

yes, peaceful reunification is the only way it will happen.

Taiwan's mandatory military service is over, it's population decreasing, it's economy stagnating, and its influence waning. All their talents are coming to China, while China keeps on trucking forward, they are spinning right where they are.

They have an enemy in Japan, relations with korea is economic buddies at best if that, and they are at odds with Philippines.

Their only option is to reunite, they may resist today, but soon they will need it.

China isn't pressuring Taiwan, just our existence is sucking the life out of them. So unless they want to be part of us, they will revert back to third world status. This isn't a prediction, it's a fact, and it's happening. As it turns out, 23 million people can't compete with 1.3 billion, who knew.

@BoQ77

Democratic Vietnam was better than commi Vietnam, maybe you should give those people back their land, millions of Vietnamese fled Vietnam Commis for other lands when the red plague came, so maybe worry about your self before about us.

YOU ARE COMMUNIST TOO, remember?

I dont want to apply my thinking to others ...
The Taiwanese votes for their own interest.

 

[Martian2]

Do you believe a peaceful reunification is possible?

Yes, the entire KMT (Kuomintang) party is a stealth pro-reunification party. I grew up in a KMT household.

The trick is to reunify without upsetting the United States. The U.S. is too important a market to Taiwan.

Thus, we will wait about ten years and the U.S. will eventually accept Chinese reunification.

In 1865, the North and South reunified after the American Civil War.

In 1991, East and West Germany reunified.

China's and Taiwan's time is coming.

 

[flist3773]

I agree with Martian2 that China and Taiwan will be reunited. Within a decade, China will have very strong domestic economy to the point that China can shut Japan.Inc without firing a bullet. ( Economic might is mightier than the sword).

@Martian2 If you read "The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski, he mentioned about the emergence of the "Greater China" in early 1990s (his book was written in 1997 i think). In his book, he mentioned that China does not really accept the independence of Mongolia (as Yuan Shikai along with his Beiyang regime granted a "concession" of Russian special interest in Mongolia or "Outer Mongolia"). Is there any possibility that China can get all the territories that were forced to lose at the height of the Qing Dynasty? In other words, are there any way that China can physically get Outer Mongolia and the territories lost under Peking Convention (it includes Hong Kong and Outer Manchuria)? Or is China limited to economic mean only?

 

[Martian2]

I agree with Martian2 that China and Taiwan will be reunited. Within a decade, China will have very strong domestic economy to the point that China can shut Japan.Inc without firing a bullet. ( Economic might is mightier than the sword).

@Martian2 If you read "The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski, he mentioned about the emergence of the "Greater China" in early 1990s (his book was written in 1997 i think). In his book, he mentioned that China does not really accept the independence of Mongolia (as Yuan Shikai along with his Beiyang regime granted a "concession" of Russian special interest in Mongolia or "Outer Mongolia"). Is there any possibility that China can get all the territories that were forced to lose at the height of the Qing Dynasty? In other words, are there any way that China can physically get Outer Mongolia and the territories lost under Peking Convention (it includes Hong Kong and Outer Manchuria)? Or is China limited to economic mean only?

It's not politically correct to say this, but you asked the question and I'll answer it.

Outer Mongolia was part of China prior to 1945. The Soviet Union and the United States wanted a weaker China. Thus, the USSR and U.S.A. promoted Mongolian independence.

Russia is weak today. That leaves the problem of the United States. China can regain Mongolia, but it is not currently worth the cost. China needs to wait about 18 years before re-attaching Mongolia back to China. It'll take about eight years for China to surpass American nominal GDP. Add another ten years to build up a massive military. After 18 years from now, China can safely reclaim Mongolia without worrying about the U.S. Navy stopping Chinese oil tankers carrying Saudi oil.

Outer Manchuria is gone for the foreseeable future. Some tundra territory is not worth risking the Chinese civilization. China is patient. Chinese can afford to wait a couple of hundred years to see if ballistic missiles can be reliably shot down. However, that is for the distant future when advanced Chinese technology can create new possibilities.

In the meantime, after 18 years and not being susceptible to U.S. naval pressure, China should probably also annex Vietnam, Myanmar (ie. the size of Texas), and India. The former populations can be placed inside Israeli-style Gaza Strips. This is the only solution to the American "containment" strategy. China must annex the members of the containment wall.