in a future conflict with india will pakistans lack of Naval assests cost it defeat?

[danger007]

What is the maximum effective range of IN's surface fleets SAMs??



Coastal defense batteries can provide cover upto 240 kms under that small assets can work well, specially MRTP-33.



No, I have seen F-22P inside out, and as per its given role it can be very potent foe, its a hybrid of Chinese & Western tech, it may have point air defense but even that is very powerful can stop any threat in its effective range.

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just specify What are those western tech.. don't make blind claims. ..

 

[Basel]

just specify What are those western tech.. don't make blind claims. ..

Sonar and all major electronic equipment also engine too.

If 70 kms is the maximum range of your best SAM or even if we assume it is 120 kms, then PN & PAF will have good chances to come close and launch its missiles, few will definitely get through.

 

[Echo_419]

Every thing into account, they say what they have known is that IN will not bring its air arm (MIG-29s) close to our EEZ they tend to operate far from our borders for blockade this time and they are taking steps to handle that, in borders IAF will be threat for PN and air defense is therefore improved although its point defense but it is deployed in good numbers and with capability to track and destroy all air born threats (PGMs, Missile, helos, air crafts).

It will not be easy for IN to detect F-22Ps as they have low RCS and some good western electronics on board, they can come close to IN as far as 50 kms before firing all 8 rounds of their anti ship missiles and run.

So by your Logic our many Frigates & Destroyers which are far better equipped than your F-22Ps will be Invisible

I thought it was 5,and you mean Z 9 Harbin AEW&C heli?

@Basel I don't see much RCS reduction here

Isko Stealth Bata raha hai Basel

 

[Basel]

So by your Logic our many Frigates & Destroyers which are far better equipped than your F-22Ps will be Invisible

I did not say any thing about your ships, also no one will be able to cover all parts of sea there will be loop holes too.

Isko Stealth Bata raha hai Basel

I have not used word "Stealth" or "Stealthy" but low RCS, why, because all previous ships of PN have much larger RCS then F-22Ps.

 

[Echo_419]

I did not say any thing about your ships, also no one will be able to cover all parts of sea there will be loop holes too.

Ok lets compare your Ships with ours Post the specs of every single sea worthy vessel you have

 

[danger007]

Sonar and all major electronic equipment also engine too.

If 70 kms is the maximum range of your best SAM or even if we assume it is 120 kms, then PN & PAF will have good chances to come close and launch its missiles, few will definitely get through.

how come .. We got huge air wing compared Your obsolete mirages ... sea skimming missiles which you guys mentioning have range around 70 km. .. Our migs will shot down your mirages before it reaches close to our vessels. .

 

[Basel]

Ok lets compare your Ships with ours Post the specs of every single sea worthy vessel you have

Dear, Whatever you have now or in future but IN will not dare to come close to our border / coastline that is why they have decided to do blockade in open sea far from our border.

how come .. We got huge air wing compared Your obsolete mirages ... sea skimming missiles which you guys mentioning have range around 70 km. ..

PAF will launch missiles not from just Mirages, JF-17 can also launch C-802s & CM-400AKG, also PN have P-3s with Harpoons, Sea Kings with Exocet and Z-9s with C-802s.

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Also MRTP-33s with anti ship missiles will be very potent foe for IN and good coastal defense weapon system for PN.

 

[gslv mk3]

Sonar and all major electronic equipment

The radars ?

PAF will launch missiles not from just Mirages, JF-17 can also launch C-802s & CM-400AKG, also PN have P-3s with Harpoons, Sea Kings with Exocet and Z-9s with C-802s.

Sorry mate,Mig 29Ks have superiority over all those.

I have not used word "Stealth" or "Stealthy" but low RCS, why, because all previous ships of PN have much larger RCS then F-22Ps.

That doesn't mean stealth.

 

[ares]

LOL...

typical bhartis floating in their delusions...

Has anyone cared enough to look at the map?

Guess which naval force has more chances to blocking the flow of oil to other nation?

In naval blockade, the only thing matters is disrupting the energy flow to your enemy..since that is the most important commodity in times of conflict.

Indian navy can block ships of noodles coming from Indonesia to Pakistan. Or ships with playstations from Japan.

BIG FCUCKING DEAL!

Pakistan doesn't get its oil from Japan...but India does gets its oil from Persian Gulf.

Guess which naval force is closer to Persian Gulf and can reach the choke points before the adversary does?

Pakistani submarines armed with state-of-the-art torpedoes and cruise missiles submerged deep beneath the gate of Persian Gulf threatening to blockade/destroy any oil shipment to India. While Pakistani Ships, AWACs, Coastal batteries, and Aerial assets providing cover to the whole blockade effort.

What can Indians do in such scenario? Try to break-in this well-dug Pakistani Naval force by coming in the range of our air-defense and anti-ship missiles?

Yeah, good luck.

india has a large navy because they have a large coast to protect.

Pakistan's Naval Power is enough to keep indians at bay and to foil any so-called "blockade attempt" from bhartis..

And Pakistan's naval strength is only gonna increase with time..with the induction of newer, more powerful submarines, nuclear cruise missiles, and JF-17s armed with anti-ship missiles and weaponry.

India plans to deploy 3 Carrier Battle groups.

While Pakistan will have to deploy shore based assets(which will be limited by its range) to stop Indian oil supplies, India can literally deploy CBG off Strait of Hormuz, protect its supply lines as well cut off Pakistani ones and hit Gwadar at the same time.

 

[Basel]

Sorry mate,Mig 29Ks have superiority over all those.

Have you seen Top Gun?? if yes then you will know how difficult it will be for IN's Migs to protect its fleet which only have 70km range SAM to back them up.

That doesn't mean stealth.

I never say stealth, Stealth means extemely low RCS not low RCS.

MRTP-33s are the most stealthy boats PN have.

 

[Basel]

India plans to deploy 3 Carrier Battle groups.

Did India have those now?? when India will have all 3 of them till then PN will also have much more assets then now.

 

[gslv mk3]

Have you seen Top Gun?? if yes then you will know how difficult it will be for IN's Migs to protect its fleet which only have 70km range SAM to back them up

Please go learn about the number of number of Mig 29Ks & AEW &C aircraft INS vikramaditya would have

 

[Echo_419]

The radars ?



Sorry mate,Mig 29Ks have superiority over all those.



That doesn't mean stealth.

By his Logic Kolkatas will be Invisible to naked Eye

 

[gslv mk3]

Did India have those now?? when India will have all 3 of them till then PN will also have much more assets then now.

Anyway,you have to deal with two.

 

[Basel]

While Pakistan will have to deploy shore based assets(which will be limited by its range) to stop Indian oil supplies, India can literally deploy CBG off Strait of Hormuz, protect its supply lines as well cut off Pakistani ones and hit Gwadar at the same time.

Coming close to Gawadar or Strait of Hormuz to attack will be biggest mistake of IN as sea is not wide there and even land based batteries can take out ships, see what Iran have done and how effective they are.