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Imran vows to block Nato supplies in KP

told u before . In my opnion u r mentally instable or from MQM ..please dnt reply to my post... yeah being zidi is better then bend bending over and spreading butt cheeks everytime ... again i request u ,,,please bnot reply my post ..
i m not here to, listen your insane oppinions, which allways end up, on you butt checks?
if you post a insane, post then be better prepare your butt checks, to be oppened up?
he is not dam sultan rahi, in jaat da kraak ?
he is politician, he shouldbe responsible, & shouldnt be bending , spearding some thing to terrorists?
 
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what heppend to some guys...why dont u go and lick american boots..we suppose to resolve our probkems not usa.what u guys think by killing there head we will stop every thing.ur dreams.silly people
 
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What ever we have today is gift of PTI activists and their re-instated CJ.
 
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Funny stuff,Peoples representative supporting those who killed the very people responsible for his stature.
 
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i m not here to, listen your insane oppinions, which allways end up, on you butt checks?
if you post a insane, post then be better prepare your butt checks, to be oppened up?
he is not dam sultan rahi, in jaat da kraak ?
he is politician, he shouldbe responsible, & shouldnt be bending , spearding some thing to terrorists?
bhie u r from MQM and then u talking against terrorist ..yeah tu khola tazaad ha ... i know u are always busy bad mouth imran but u never talked about the murderer sitting in UK and even saw u defending him at times ... i dont mind other people talking shit about him but u make no sense and stop putting question mark at the end of every sentense..(ask anyone) that looks stupid. 
What ever we have today is gift of PTI activists and their re-instated CJ.
very true ..imran khan was in power for last 13 years ..all the mess is totally his fault :P trollers
 
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mai apko aj bata raha hu, ham ne elections k results tasleem kr liye hain magar dhaandli tasleem nai ki
 
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It is a pity when political leaders are making out as if Hakimullah Mehsud was an ambassador of peace! Doesn’t Mr Taliban Khan understand that Hakimullah Mehsud was probably the single most biggest enemy of Pakistan State.

Soon after the APC meeting Taliban kill a Div. Commander and a Colonel of Pakistan Army. TTP admitted it boldly and even went on to say that they will target Kiyani next. Where was Taliban Khan then? Does he know that Hakimulla Mehsud was conspiring with Afghan intelligence and sent his right hand man to Afghanistan for this purpose? Or you would say that NYTimes news is all made up? Remember this report came out a couple of days before the drone attack.

Here is the link to NY Times news.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/world/asia/us-disrupts-afghans-tack-on-militants.html?_r=0

And here is the excerpt.

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Publicly, the Afghan government has described Mr. Mehsud as an insurgent peace emissary. But according to Afghan officials, the ultimate plan was to take revenge on the Pakistani military.

In the murk of intrigue and paranoia that dominates the relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan, the Pakistanis have long had the upper hand. A favorite complaint of Afghan officials is how Pakistani military intelligence has sheltered and nurtured the Taliban and supported their insurgency against the Afghan government.

Now, not content to be merely the target of a proxy war, the Afghan government decided to recruit proxies of its own by seeking to aid the Pakistan Taliban in their fight against Pakistan’s security forces, according to Afghan officials. And they were beginning to make progress over the past year, they say, before the American raid exposed them.

Although Afghan anger over the raid has been an open issue since it was revealed in news reports this month, it is only now that the full purpose of the Afghan operation that prompted the raid has been detailed by American and Afghan officials. Those officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss secret intelligence matters.

The thinking, Afghan officials said, was that the Afghans could later gain an advantage in negotiations with the Pakistani government by offering to back off their support for the militants.

Aiding the Pakistan Taliban was an “opportunity to bring peace on our terms,” one senior Afghan security official said.

From the American standpoint, though, it has exposed a new level of futility in the war effort here. Not only has Washington failed to persuade Pakistan to stop using militants to destabilize its neighbors — a major American foreign policy goal in recent years — but its failure also appears to have persuaded Afghanistan to try the same thing.

Worse still, for American officials, was the Afghans’ choice of militant allies. Though the Afghan and Pakistan Taliban are operationally distinct, they are loosely aligned; the Pakistani insurgents, for instance, pledge allegiance to Mullah Muhammad Omar, the founder of the Afghan Taliban. In the estimation of American officials, support for one invariably bleeds into assistance for the other.

At the same time, the Pakistan Taliban shares its base in the tribal areas of Pakistan with a number of Islamist groups that have tried to mount attacks in the West, including the remnants of Al Qaeda’s original leadership. The Pakistan Taliban have also showed a willingness to strike beyond the region, unlike the Afghan Taliban. Mr. Mehsud, for instance, is suspected of having a role in the foiled plot to detonate acar bomb in Times Square in 2010, American officials said.


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Now Imran Khan is ready to rebel against the Federal Gov’t in revenge of his beloved TTP leader. Suppose Pak Army protects the US supplies convoy, would KPK Provincial Gov’t order police to fire on Pak Army jawans? All this for the death of Pakistan’s enemy number one!

Mr Imran Khan Shame on you. You are ready to fight on behalf of theTaliban leader that was planning to attack Pak Military on behalf of Karzai regime!. You are either extremely stupid or truly a Zionist Agent as Fazlur Rahman has alleged; may be both.
 
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Drone strikes are illegal. This is against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan. .This is fact .....
PTI should block NATO supplies... I hope that they will do it...
 
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The only reason IK made this pledge is to put GOP in a very awkward position. He knows that the GOP cannot allow one state to decide Pak's relationship with USA.

Naturally, this statement means that NS will either have to force the KPK govt to accept the NATO supply route - in which case IK looks like a hero being suppressed.

Or he will also have to come out and declare that NATO supplies are disallowed - again making IK look like the hero.

IK is playing a win win game, quite cleverly - but his biggest mistake is to play politics with something so crucial to the future of Pak. He will end up looking like a hero to his fans, but in the long term he is only going to make the TTP bolder.
 
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Oh please! Forgive PAF...Had the attack been carried out by PAF or PA...all the cannons of Politicions, media, human right activists would be turned towards Pakistan Military.
We have made joke of ourself. We dont have a vision to come out of this problem. 10 bloody years has passed away with thousand of people killed and we still don't know how to come out of this problem. Politicians, Generals are still making money over the dead bodies of Awam and their companions. Awam is still sleeping. No protest against Army or Govt against terrorism. If thousand of People can come out to lodge protest against Musharraf during Long Rally then what is stopping us now ? We will have to come out if we want to get rid of it. Blame game should be stopped and responsibility should be taken by both Political Parties and Forces.
 
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Drone strikes are illegal. This is against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan. .This is fact .....
PTI should block NATO supplies... I hope that they will do it...

Everyone agrees that drone strikes are illegal. I am against drones myself. I am also against Taliban Khan's rhetoric. He is preaching rebellion against Federal Gov't because of his deep anger that his beloved butcher and Pakistan’s number one enemy has been dispatched to Hell. Do you also consider the scum bag Hakimullah Mehsud a 'Prophet' of peace? Have you no love for the Army Jawans and civilians killed on Hakimullah's orders? What about the fact that he was conspiring to attack Pak Military on Karzai' behalf? It is clear that lot of my countrymen have little love to spare for rest of the Pakistani population; when it comes to Taliban all their Sins are forgiven.

I am no very articulate. Here is an article from The News.

Ghazi SalahuddinSunday, November 03, 2013
From Print Edition


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A major development it certainly is. Hakeemullah Mehsud, chief of the Pakistani Taliban, has died in a US drone attack. Reports said that four missiles were fired into the compound of Hakeemullah’s house near Miranshah in North Waziristan. The attack came when a shura of the Taliban commanders was under way on Friday evening. There were other casualties.

So what happens now? The timing of this exceptionally fruitful drone attack, of course, is ominous. Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan said that a three-member team of independent facilitators was all set to go to North Waziristan with the government’s formal offer for talks. Hence, he felt that the drone attack was an attempt to sabotage the peace talks.

Apparently, he is serious in his interpretation of the timing of the drone attack. There are others, Imran Khan included, who have expressed the same opinion. Ah, but the merry-go-round of the peace talks has been spinning for weeks and the Americans were pursuing their prime target for years. If an opportunity struck, what would be more important for them, causing a disruption in Pakistan’s domestic politics or gaining a victory that they had waited for so anxiously?

We should try and be rational about these things, though it is our inability to be so that has brought us to a situation that is catastrophic in many ways. Just look at what the Taliban have done to us in recent years, with the sectarian terrorists in tow. The figures are mind-boggling. Our armed forces have suffered gravely. And the Taliban have brazenly been accepting responsibility for heinous attacks in which innocent citizens lost their lives. They have cut throats and brutalised bodies.

Yet, we have considerable sympathy for the Taliban even within some of our mainstream parties. The weird logic presented by the Taliban apologists totally ignores the professed mission of the Taliban: to overthrow the existing constitutional dispensation and enforce Shariah in the light of their own narrow vision.

All that fuss created about drone attacks has further subverted the potential for a reasoned discourse on the consequences of religious extremism and militancy. Interestingly, the figures of civilian casualties in drone attacks quoted by the interior minister himself were so low that the opposition in the Senate on Wednesday created a pandemonium.

Be that as it may – and international human rights groups have raised their voices against drone attacks, quoting much higher civilian casualties – the point that should not be ignored is that the drones belong in a corner of the entire picture that is splashed with the blood of Pakistani citizens.

Besides, the drone attacks that are manifestly a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty are restricted to North Waziristan where the militants are located. If North Waziristan is part of Pakistan’s territory, the government must exercise its writ on it – and that will effectively stop drone attacks. However, it is the measure of the power that the Taliban wield that it is their writ that is enforced in North Waziristan. Not only that, the Taliban have infiltrated major cities and have a strong presence in Karachi.

In the immediate context, we have to contend with the possible repercussions of the killing of the chief of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan with a number of his close associates. One report published on Saturday said that a faction of the Taliban had asked people living near Miranshah to move their families to safe areas by Friday. Shopkeepers were directed to shift their expensive goods to other areas. Something is bound to happen. There should be no doubt about the Taliban’s capacity to mount major attacks and we will have to wait and see how they execute their revenge.

On their part, the rulers have to be ready for any emergency. At the same time, they need to review the entire situation and be willing for the right initiatives when things begin to settle down. The prospects for talks seem to have diminished. Much will depend on whether the TTP is weakened and is splintered by Hakeemullah’s death.

Some observers believe that the loss suffered by the TTP would be a gain for the government of Pakistan. After all, a vicious adversary has been taken out. Any hopes that the talks would bring lasting peace were illusory from the outset, if you were to look at it realistically. Ask Imran Khan and he will tell you that cancer cannot be cured with an aspirin. (But don’t, please, broach the subject of the Taliban with him.)

We cannot be sure about what the army is thinking about all this but the chief has said that it has the capacity to win the war against the militants. This is what is in the offing, whether the short-sighted can see it or not. We have arrived at a moment when all the derelictions of the past – and the Taliban are the offspring of our own ruling ideas – have to be ironed out. A strategic retreat, in a sense, from how religion has been invested in politics and policies is in order.

This, of course, will not be easy. Such a paradigm shift may even not come and we will have to bear the consequences. But Hakeemullah’s killing and the consequent damage to the TTP should provide us an opportunity to make a fresh assessment of where we are headed. Ideally, this review of the national situation should not be restricted to security issues and the challenge posed by the Taliban. The war that is in the offing is to be fought on every front, such as governance and social justice and emancipation of women and the promotion of knowledge and creativity.

I concluded, earlier this week, a four-day visit to Gilgit-Baltistan as a member of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan’s fact finding mission. Other members of the team were Roland Desouza, Hussain Naqi and Najamuddin, with Israruddin as our GB coordinator. It was a journey of discovery for me and I was hoping to be able to look at the state of the nation in the mirror of GB. There is so much to report and there is a sense of urgency about it but, out of the blue, Hakeemullah has intervened.

Well, we must all respond to this reminder of a conflict that extends, in a metaphorical sense, to all facets of our national existence. It does not matter so much that the TTP has been in a war against the US. At least the US has its drones. But what do we have against suicide bombing? In addition, how do we overcome the Taliban mindset that has infected our body politic? Think about it.

The writer is a staff member.

Email: ghazi_salahuddin@hotmail. com
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-212018-A-war-in-the-offing
 
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Seriously PTI has become a total drama.

None developments in their ruled province...just whining, dramas to keep public attention far away from real issues which PTI had promised to solve after coming into power.:tdown:
how you suppose PTI should solve the problems when there is no peace in the whole province. there is no economic activity no business running because there is no peace.
 
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how you suppose PTI should solve the problems when there is no peace in the whole province. there is no economic activity no business running because there is no peace.

Situation was much worst before elections but PTI was claiming big things. Where is their 90 days planning?
 
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Oh well.. looks like there is a competition going on between different political parties in Pakistan to prove their loyalties towards taleban! Misplaced priorities.. or what?
 
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