Imran Khan Giving polio drops to a new born at Hazara Colony - Karachi.

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

Yes the PTI ra ra club does get up my nose at times as well but i will reserve my comments on that for other threads.

In one act IK has done a great favor for the children of Pakistan and made the mullahs and the ttp look like fools.

He may be confused some times he may make the wrong choices but i belive he is esentially a good man, in Paakistani politics being a good man seems about as rare as the Messiah

Again, you think I'm saying IK's a bad man, I'm not. As for making the TTP/mullahs look like fools, there shouldn't be any need to - they fact that they're fools is evidently obvious; it's just worrisome that people need to be woken up to it.

I do support IK, and it's for that reason that I criticize him more than any other politician - without accountability democracy fails and if we are to never criticize IK, then his vision can't be created (or rather, Jinnah's vision can't).

 

[AstanoshKhan]

Am I imagining this? Bolta Pakistan... Nusrat Javed? That MQM thug?

Nusrat Jave and Mushtaq Minhas... these days are on PMLN's payroll.

 

[qasimali]

It is what we always do, we critisize every body who is trying to do something good.

 

[Zarvan]

Yes, because only a medical professional should decide which patient is eligible for polio drops. The risk is when you allow random non-medical volunteers to give out polio drops mischief can occur, for example the polio drops can be tampered with being given out can be watered down medicine, some people may think they have polio but actually don't and still go and take the polio drops. Also health side affects should explained to the patient before giving polio drops. The way the United States got rid of polio was medical doctors and medical professionals administered the polio drops at various location and people would line up and take the drops or injection (injection came first).

This is how modern medicine works (medical professionals administer medicine), I understand Pakistan is a third world country but this doesn't mean Pakistan has to follow the same path as another third world country in having random volunteers give out polio drops because too many bad things can happen.


About this "can they be afforded security" are you telling me you cannot find them army personnel or police personnel to protect the Doctors administering the medicine and the patients who need them at the various sites? Is Pakistan that pathetic of a country? If so I might as well give up hope on it.

Sir in Polio rule is really very easy and clear only the vaccination should not be expired and rule for patient is that the he should be 5 year old or less than 5 year old child that is the only rule

 

[A1Kaid]

Sir in Polio rule is really very easy and clear only the vaccination should not be expired and rule for patient is that the he should be 5 year old or less than 5 year old child that is the only rule

No that is not the rule, and this is why I said only health professionals should administer the polio vaccination. Polio vaccination campaign is not as simple as a few drops in the mouth of young children and be gone. Polio vaccinations have to be given in interval stages for the maximum immunological protection against the Polio virus. Now for proper and safe immunization to be induced into the host's immune system to Polio, IPV has to be given to an infant soon after birth at 1-2 months of age, then approximately 4 months of age, a third time at 6-18 months of age. Finally, a booster shot is given at 4-6 years of age, this methodical interval allows the human immune system to effectively combat the polio virus and prevent it from causing harm to the body.

It is up to Pakistani parents to get their children vaccinated, they need to visit clinics and hospitals themselves they shouldn't just wait for these health aid workers to come to their house and relief them of their obligation as parents. Pakistan could have eradicated the polio virus much sooner if it weren't for parents in FATA and KP, 75% of the polio virus cases are in that region of Pakistan and they also have a smaller population than both Sindh and Punjab.

Vaccination to the Polio virus is not a one time thing, though for some patients it can be a one time thing. Another reason why I said health professionals only is to assure the polio vaccine would not be tampered with.

 

[Emmie]

No that is not the rule, and this is why I said only health professionals should administer the polio vaccination. Polio vaccination campaign is not as simple as a few drops in the mouth of young children and be gone. Polio vaccinations have to be given in interval stages for the maximum immunological protection against the Polio virus. Now for proper and safe immunization to be induced into the host's immune system to Polio, IPV has to be given to an infant soon after birth at 1-2 months of age, then approximately 4 months of age, a third time at 6-18 months of age. Finally, a booster shot is given at 4-6 years of age, this methodical interval allows the human immune system to effectively combat the polio virus and prevent it from causing harm to the body.

I don't know what is your source of the information but in Pakistan immunization is not done the way you have mentioned, wonder if you could share the link to recommendations you're referring to? Rule is very simple, every child below the age of 5 years is obliged to get polio vaccine in mass immunization campaigns. Under normal circumstances EPI guide lines are followed, if you are familiar with the the immunization programs then you would definitely be able to understand the chart below.

It is up to Pakistani parents to get their children vaccinated, they need to visit clinics and hospitals themselves they shouldn't just wait for these health aid workers to come to their house and relief them of their obligation as parents. Pakistan could have eradicated the polio virus much sooner if it weren't for parents in FATA and KP, 75% of the polio virus cases are in that region of Pakistan and they also have a smaller population than both Sindh and Punjab.

You are confused between mass immunization campaigns and the standard immunization program runs as a standard protocol.

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BTW sir, I still haven't gotten the reply to my post which was directed to your post, #14!

Trust me polio vaccine is given to every child under the age of 5 years, there's no question of eligibility of the child.



Polio vaccine is given to the kid having no Polio, so if you don't have polio go and get vaccinated and if you have polio you don't need to get vaccinated. It's vaccination not some medicine.

Side effects, yeah, must be explained. But you can't say no to polio vaccination even if you want to avoid possible side effects.

Here's your post (post#14), in case you fail to spot..

Yes, because only a medical professional should decide which patient is eligible for polio drops. The risk is when you allow random non-medical volunteers to give out polio drops mischief can occur, for example the polio drops can be tampered with being given out can be watered down medicine, some people may think they have polio but actually don't and still go and take the polio drops. Also health side affects should explained to the patient before giving polio drops. The way the United States got rid of polio was medical doctors and medical professionals administered the polio drops at various location and people would line up and take the drops or injection (injection came first).

This is how modern medicine works (medical professionals administer medicine), I understand Pakistan is a third world country but this doesn't mean Pakistan has to follow the same path as another third world country in having random volunteers give out polio drops because too many bad things can happen.


About this "can they be afforded security" are you telling me you cannot find them army personnel or police personnel to protect the Doctors administering the medicine and the patients who need them at the various sites? Is Pakistan that pathetic of a country? If so I might as well give up hope on it.

 

[Emmie]

As I have said earlier this act is symbolic, sincere symbolism, and of course it does not require any expertise. It sends out a very strong message to those who are sabotaging the campaign against polio.

My extolment for IK, keep up the good work.