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Imran Khan cancels India trip over Rushdie

The thing you are trying to hide is a open secret so don't act like a naïve, we are mature people. World knows who is harming islam and who are responsible for Islam phobia. This people burn the flag of other nation so bluntly and when some one even want to 'draw' something they issue fatwa against him/her. As I said you, you are good with words but sorry to say it doesn't hold substance.

Now, In India we see Imran khan as a potential Prime minister of Pakistan. tomorrow he will not go to UN annual meet because Israelis PM is there and by 'logic' they are responsible for the killing of muslims , so can't share the conference with him ? He needs to be politically mature.

His appearance in the UN does not provide monetary benefit to Pakistan's adversaries - more likely India than Israel. His appearance to a public speaking seminar (for which these high profile speakers are paid in the hundreds of thousands of dollars or a percentage of the door earnings) provides benefit to all stakeholders.

This was my point number one, keep up.
 
Shabash khan Bhai. I could not be more happy with your decision. There is no reason for you to attend a conference where a third class bigot scum will be presence. Indians can go to hell along with maloon Rushdie. :tup:
 
I am very happy with IK's decision, he has shown he is a real patriot by not sitting with abusers of Islam. :tup:
 
Here is my research on some of them:

Some of them are senators or ticket holders for upcoming elections. They are doctors and professors as well.

There are Christians, Hindus and Sikhs in this party!

Sami ul Haq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hafiz Muhammad Saeed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Liaqat Baloch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MMA - Dr. Sahibzada Abu-al-Khair Muhammad Zubair's Profile

Listen to Sardari ji of Difa -e- Pakistan talking about Pakistan:

Sardar Shaam Singh, Talking about Pakistan - BZU Multan

Quoting Iqbal man!

Ramesh Lal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Hindu member of Difa -e- Pakistan.

Truth is, Difa -e- Pakistan is a slogan. Defence of Pakistan who won't join under the same banner? Defence Council stuff happened when the US attacked Pakistan, people in the country got together and decided we will support the defence of Pakistan.

Some of them were cool people, some of them were idiots as well. Nobody was married to each other's each and every ideology hence every one of them have separate ideas about Pakistan - just so happens everyone wanted to defend Pakistan. It is less of a thing than what the MMA was and MMA was just BS.
i will save this post since it will be very useful for future ''discourse''


i hope our bharti friends here will study it closely and learn some things
 
Rushdie is treated as untouchable even in India by some politicians. Why would anybody hope that he will lose his chance of winning this election.
And this happened due to jaipur, everything was cool before that.

I have tried reading satanic verses, it is quite unreadable for me. May be a muslim can understand it.(or those who understand the background)
 
Rushdie is treated as untouchable even in India by some politicians. Why would anybody hope that he will lose his chance of winning this election.
And this happened due to jaipur, everything was cool before that.

I have tried reading satanic verses, it is quite unreadable for me. May be a muslim can understand it.(or those who understand the background)

We know only an Indian would read Satanic Verses! Who has no respect for Islam and other minorities except Hinduism!!
 
Good decision by Imran. He should only go to resolve issues between the 2 countries and not for a personal party...
 
Why Imran Khan won’t go to India


As political debates go, the recent announcement that Imran Khan will not be going to the India Today Conclave due to Salman Rushdie’s presence there, left opinions divided, with some calling Khan’s decision the right one, and others referring to it as pandering to the right.

Unfortunately, neither one is correct.

While Khan would argue that his decision is based on the “immeasurable hurt caused to Muslims across the globe” by Rushdie, his decision, just days before the event should not come as a surprise. He has been consistent in saying he would refuse to attend any event at which Mr Rushdie was a guest. Plus, any Pakistani with half-a-brain, let alone a politician, would realise the risk to their own life and limb presented by being seen on the same platform.

A similar statement at the Kolkata Book Fair in January met with a prompt reply from Rushdie, who tweeted,

“Thirty years ago @ImranKhanPTI was a fan at my 1982 Delhi lecture and 100% secular. Now my work ‘humiliates’ his ‘faith’? Which is the real Imran?”

Good question, and one that got a swift reply from the PTI’s secretary general.

“Rushdie should know that in 1982 he was just another author and had not published his blasphemic Satanic Verses which he did in 1988. Since then Salman Rushdie is a pariah (to say the least) in the Muslim world.”

The response is only half true. Rushdie in fact won the Booker Prize for Midnight’s Children in 1981. He was a star in the field of literature, not “just another author”. But the fact remains, Khan did nothing wrong at that point because he cannot, nor has he ever claimed, to be able to see the future. He did not know that Rushdie world of magical realism would soon include a story offensive to much of the world’s Muslim populace, starting with the then living leader who was not-so-subtly hinted at in the book, Ayatollah Khomeini, who would later issue the famous fatwa against Rushdie.

Depending on the interpretation of the piece, Rushdie’s work may be portrayed by some, especially those unfamiliar with Islam and the rules for portraying God and the Prophet, as an example of free speech. There is an underlying problem there. While free speech is and should remain a right, incendiary speech is not.

Would the world have been a better place had Rushdie not written the book? Probably not, but would it have been a better place if his apology for “the distress the publication has occasioned to the sincere followers of Islam” were accepted? At least 50 people died worldwide because of the fatwa, which by the way, was rejected by multiple Al-Azhar University scholars on legal grounds.

However coming back to Imran Khan, was the Kaptaan’s decision really a moral one taken on the grounds that Rushdie hurt Muslims’ feelings, or was it a political move to strengthen his support among the right-wing?

Khan, who is described by the British newspaper The Guardian as having a conservative agenda, could make his point much more clear and acceptable to the left and liberals if he had simply maintained the same honor code domestically.

Instead, he has let his party members share the stage with the ‘Defy’ Pakistan crowd, the same group that includes such moral beacons as Samiul Haq and the entire Sipah-e-Sihaba Pakistan/Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat leadership.

For those unfamiliar with SSP, they are the kind that consider Shias to be non-Muslims, and are believed to be linked with the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan. You know the guys who kill soldiers, men, women and children in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Punjab? They, apparently, are not people who cause immeasurable hurt to Muslims across the globe.

Just in Pakistan.

Or maybe it’s because they ‘kill’ people. It’s hard to hurt a dead man’s feeling.

Mr Khan and his party’s credentials as a viable threat to the established parties in the upcoming elections can be seen through the amount of popular support he has. He provides hope that the country will be cleaned up and national interest – defined as whatever the army says it is, will be protected. Yet he associates with questionable characters and keeps blaming domestic terror on foreign hands.

Al Qaeda is just one example of a terrorist group that attacked those that were once its benefactors. TTP, SSP, and a host of other letters come up when you look at the ones attacking Pakistan. They too, are attacking those that used to fund them. Terrorism in Pakistan may have increased due to the war in Pakistan, but it was never imported. It was, and is, homegrown, and largely home-funded.

The only way to stop it is to fight extremist ideology, cut off support, including from within the establishment. This may go against some powerful players’ interests, but if Kaptaan wants to lead this nation to glory, he needs to do what is best for the people, not the khakis or mullahs, and that includes keeping them alive.

Only when Mr Khan accepts this, not just personally but publicly, and only when he realises that negotiating with terrorists is not a valid option for Pakistan (the US can pack up and leave Afghanistan for a safe homeland, we can’t just leave our own country), will he be ready for the show.
 
So basically you can't name any? Google? Ok lets try that together. I will get back to you with a detailed response on this. Wouldn't hurt to validate/invalidate your theory of convicted criminals - afterall convictions would mean they should be in jail right now, so I'm curious what you mean by convicted criminals.



And Zardari is president - so there is nothing illegal about Zardari either.


Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

6 Christians Killed in Riots in Pakistan - NYTimes.com

Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, Terrorist Group of Pakistan

BBC News - Pakistan bans Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat Islamist group

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan 'extremist' is shot dead

There are hundreds of links with names. Not to mention their links to the murders of Taseer, Bhatti and countless others.

You mentioned Maulana Sami ul Haq. He is a religious leader and a politician. He is known for his close ties to the Taliban and has been referred to as the "Father of the Taliban".
 
Here is my research on some of them:

Some of them are senators or ticket holders for upcoming elections. They are doctors and professors as well.

There are Christians, Hindus and Sikhs in this party!


Listen to Sardari ji of Difa -e- Pakistan talking about Pakistan:

Sardar Shaam Singh, Talking about Pakistan - BZU Multan

Quoting Iqbal man!

Ramesh Lal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Hindu member of Difa -e- Pakistan.

Its like EDL having Sikh, Hindu and Muslim members. Does it mean that they are not far right extremists?

Every extremist organization has these token members.
 
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

6 Christians Killed in Riots in Pakistan - NYTimes.com

Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, Terrorist Group of Pakistan

BBC News - Pakistan bans Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat Islamist group

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan 'extremist' is shot dead

There are hundreds of links with names. Not to mention their links to the murders of Taseer, Bhatti and countless others.

You mentioned Maulana Sami ul Haq. He is a religious leader and a politician. He is known for his close ties to the Taliban and has been referred to as the "Father of the Taliban".

Considered? I don't think many people on this forum consider me any good either but the fact is, I'm not a criminal because no court in the world has convicted me of any crime.

The same way, the rule of law should remain supreme, rule of gossip and opinions, not so much. You alleged convictions, and you have failed to provide a single conviction.
 
A prudent and practical move by Khan. Why does he need to jeopardise his chances in Pakistan politics?
 
Its like EDL having Sikh, Hindu and Muslim members. Does it mean that they are not far right extremists?

Every extremist organization has these token members.

The point was, that people who got together were not because of their religious extremism, it was because they all believed in Difa -e- Pakistan. Every Pakistani worth their salt would believe in Difa -e- Pakistan (translated to Defence of Pakistan). We even called our website Pakistan Defence many years before this council. Which Pakistani wants to not see Pakistan defended?

So all people got together, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians a few were representatives from PTI too.
 

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