Imran Khan asking for foregiveness from Iftikhar Chaudhary

[WishLivePak]

since the day one u r supporting pmln ... when u kill 14 people and shot 80 dead ., then dnt put the blame on them, use police to suppress them and put their workrs behind bars ... even after 2 months dnt even let them register an FIR . u tell what u would u do? wouldnt u be mad and say that kinda stuff? it human behavior when someone is helpless they do stupid stuff.. now tell me if i kill ur parents and shot ur mother .. then my father is strng enough to let u not get justice from any where .. would u sent me flower or u will be mad and say stuff u just mention ..

so now about that irrelevant question u asked guardian and economist . they have been lieing about iraq war and many other incidents ... they even admitted few lies.. they follow the policy they is given to then by government.. e.g keep quite about gaza, they did ... so now as US is supporting Nawaz openly and they are writing against anyone standing up against them .. so i dnt take that

indeed, entire world is against pti.

 

[Jzaib]

indeed, entire world is against pti.

lol u run out of answers ... still one question why i didnt see any comment or post about the people who said they will resign if found guilt that their government is involved in model town incident ..? why dont i see ur post against someone who murdered 14 peopl, shot 100 and looted billions. then u get offended when i call u pro pmln

 

[WishLivePak]

lol u run out of answers ... still one question why i didnt see any comment or post about the people who said they will resign if found guilt that their government is involved in model town incident ..? why dont i see ur post against someone who murdered 14 peopl, shot 100 and looted billions. then u get offended when i call u pro pmln

I made a thread with proof but aeronaut blocked it saying it was a rant

If i don't post about israel killing innocents, it means im pro israeli? What gullu logic is that

 

[aamerjamal]

since the day one u r supporting pmln ... when u kill 14 people and shot 80 dead ., then dnt put the blame on them, use police to suppress them and put their workrs behind bars ... even after 2 months dnt even let them register an FIR . u tell what u would u do? wouldnt u be mad and say that kinda stuff? it human behavior when someone is helpless they do stupid stuff.. now tell me if i kill ur parents and shot ur mother .. then my father is strng enough to let u not get justice from any where .. would u sent me flower or u will be mad and say stuff u just mention ..

so now about that irrelevant question u asked guardian and economist . they have been lieing about iraq war and many other incidents ... they even admitted few lies.. they follow the policy they is given to then by government.. e.g keep quite about gaza, they did ... so now as US is supporting Nawaz openly and they are writing against anyone standing up against them .. so i dnt take that

lemme answer this.
if any one my family too go against Law and order they will get what they deserve, enough is enough every one have to abide the Law.

are you sure America is supporting them? PM never visit US in these 1.5 years approx no ambassador in US too.
but should i have to copy paste the project, visits meeting with China's they are supporting to NS, Is enough evidence for me that they are trying to develop this country seriously.... before pointing your finger to china lemme clear you one thing is are corruption free and never talk to any gov involved in corruption, a hint 100Billion investment in 5 years mostly as load in power sector.

lol u run out of answers ... still one question why i didnt see any comment or post about the people who said they will resign if found guilt that their government is involved in model town incident ..? why dont i see ur post against someone who murdered 14 peopl, shot 100 and looted billions. then u get offended when i call u pro pmln

only one Question just one, does all your members really resign from NA?

 

[FunkyGen]

I made a thread with proof but aeronaut blocked it saying it was a rant
If i don't post about israel killing innocents, it means im pro israeli? What gullu logic is that

lol it happens @Chak Bamu don't you guys have any policy on that!?

 

[Viper0011.]

About time somebody called IK's bluff.

You can't just go around making self-serving allegations without substantiating them with proof. That is asking for trouble.

If you read the History, when Hitler was assaulting other countries and killing people, his media minister (forgot the name) used to say this all the time, it was something like "if you lie consistently and ALL the time, after a while, people will start to believe in that lie as a reality". That's what they did before they killed millions of innocent people. Lied to their public and to the world so much that everyone started to believe in Hitler's dangerous and inhumane agenda.

IK does the same thing, he lies about stuff SO MUCH and his people blindly believe in it and almost consider him a God. He's a human being and had greed, flaws and wants power. His past has Drug habits, Alchohol, Women, Gambling.....shouldn't he be questioned for when stuff doesn't make sense??

His followers should have the right to question him and ask for proofs when he opens up his lose cannon mouth and fires off on anyone that's in his head on that particular moment.

 

[WishLivePak]

If you read the History, when Hitler was assaulting other countries and killing people, his media minister (forgot the name) used to say this all the time, it was something like "if you lie consistently and ALL the time, after a while, people will start to believe in that lie as a reality". That's what they did before they killed millions of innocent people. Lied to their public and to the world so much that everyone started to believe in Hitler's dangerous and inhumane agenda.

IK does the same thing, he lies about stuff SO MUCH and his people blindly believe in it and almost consider him a God. He's a human being and had greed, flaws and wants power. His past has Drug habits, Alchohol, Women, Gambling.....shouldn't he be questioned for when stuff doesn't make sense??

His followers should have the right to question him and ask for proofs when he opens up his lose cannon mouth and fires off on anyone that's in his head on that particular moment.

Also a child outside of marriage.

That should be disqualification from parliament. Lying and not a good muslim (zina is a punishable crime).

But PMLn has dignity and respects other's, that's why it won't pursue this case. They don't want to take Pakistan into turmoil, to save their seat. But imran is hell bent on destroying it as long as he gets his seat.

 

[TankMan]

God, the arguments against PTI here are hilarious and disturbing at the same time.
Orangzaib, did you really just compare Imran Khan to Adolf Hitler?

"Imran Khan's U-turns". So if PTI apologizes to someone, they are hypocrites and liars but when Nawaz Sharif invites Zardari for negotiations, no problem. Its not like his people said they'll drag Zardari on the streets and beat him, right?

IK does the same thing, he lies about stuff SO MUCH and his people blindly believe in it and almost consider him a God. He's a human being and had greed, flaws and wants power. His past has Drug habits, Alchohol, Women, Gambling.....shouldn't he be questioned for when stuff doesn't make sense??

Please give examples of "SO MUCH LIES". Have you ever even talked to a PTI follower? Most of the ones I know are highly educated people who know what they're talking about and have good reasons for supporting PTI. Noon League supporters, on the other hand, "Woh meray gaun ka banda hai (in reference to election candidate), usay vote doon ga, baad me kaam aye ga"

Proof of "Drug Habits, Alcohol and Gambling"? No proper news source has reported about his drugs, all I found were a few tweets in god awful broken English. Didn't find anything about his alcohol either. As for gambling, he apparently did give his brother in law advice about cricket matches. He clarified it later on tv. Nothing more.
If he wanted power, he would have accepted PMLN's offer to become Deputy Prime Minister. He didn't.

His followers should have the right to question him and ask for proofs when he opens up his lose cannon mouth and fires off on anyone that's in his head on that particular moment.

What makes you think they don't have the right? They do. And they got lots of proof, Afzal Khan's statements, multiple documents, videos, pictures. I admit though, that there was no proper proof against Iftikhar Chaudhary, hence the apology.

That should be disqualification from parliament. Lying and not a good muslim (zina is a punishable crime).

But PMLn has dignity and respects other's, that's why it won't pursue this case. They don't want to take Pakistan into turmoil, to save their seat. But imran is hell bent on destroying it as long as he gets his seat.

If this law was implemented and enforced, the parliament would be empty.

Hilarious. Then why did they block entire cities with containers and constantly sabotage the long marches? To protect the country? Bullshit, it was to protect their own seats. If they have so much dignity and respect others so much, how do you explain the Model Town incident?

 

[WishLivePak]

God, the arguments against PTI here are hilarious and disturbing at the same time.
Orangzaib, did you really just compare Imran Khan to Adolf Hitler?

"Imran Khan's U-turns". So if PTI apologizes to someone, they are hypocrites and liars but when Nawaz Sharif invites Zardari for negotiations, no problem. Its not like his people said they'll drag Zardari on the streets and beat him, right?

Please give examples of "SO MUCH LIES". Have you ever even talked to a PTI follower? Most of the ones I know are highly educated people who know what they're talking about and have good reasons for supporting PTI. Noon League supporters, on the other hand, "Woh meray gaun ka banda hai (in reference to election candidate), usay vote doon ga, baad me kaam aye ga"

Proof of "Drug Habits, Alcohol and Gambling"? No proper news source has reported about his drugs, all I found were a few tweets in god awful broken English. Didn't find anything about his alcohol either. As for gambling, he apparently did give his brother in law advice about cricket matches. He clarified it later on tv. Nothing more.
If he wanted power, he would have accepted PMLN's offer to become Deputy Prime Minister. He didn't.

What makes you think they don't have the right? They do. And they got lots of proof, Afzal Khan's statements, multiple documents, videos, pictures. I admit though, that there was no proper proof against Iftikhar Chaudhary, hence the apology.



If this law was implemented and enforced, the parliament would be empty.

Hilarious. Then why did they block entire cities with containers and constantly sabotage the long marches? To protect the country? Bullshit, it was to protect their own seats. If they have so much dignity and respect others so much, how do you explain the Model Town incident?

Haha, isn't that what Qadri Imran saying? Entire parliament is fake and criminal? But is Imran no different? What about Quarshi from PPP, Sheikh an ex mush minister, and the other dude from pmln who still consider nawaz as leader.

Stop jumping into other things and start with point 1. Imran is a criminal. Criminal bringing change and making naya pakistan. If that is ok, what's wrong with nawaz continuing?

PTI: What Imran does is islamic, lawful and in interest of Pakistan
PTI on noora: Jew indian foreign, conspiracy by economist, guardian new york times against PTI.

 

[TankMan]

Haha, isn't that what Qadri Imran saying? Entire parliament is fake and criminal? But is Imran no different? What about Quarshi from PPP, Sheikh an ex mush minister, and the other dude from pmln who still consider nawaz as leader.

Stop jumping into other things and start with point 1. Imran is a criminal. Criminal bringing change and making naya pakistan. If that is ok, what's wrong with nawaz continuing?

PTI: What Imran does is islamic, lawful and in interest of Pakistan
PTI on noora: Jew indian foreign, conspiracy by economist, guardian new york times against PTI.

Okay, lets start with point 1: "Imran is a criminal"
How is he a criminal? Aside from his family issue, what else is there? Nawaz Sharif on the other hand, is a total fraud who robbed the country multiple times.
Pakistan PM `made millions in UK' - News - The Independent

He and his brother are also responsible for the murder of 14 people (Model town). So who would you prefer as a leader, someone who had a girlfriend once or someone who is corrupt and possibly a murderer?
Here's what's wrong with Nawaz continuing: He could rig the previous elections and does not want to let an investigation take place, so that he can rig the next elections too. There is absolutely no doubt that the elections were rigged and the fact that PMLN was so scared of opening even 4 constituencies indicates that the scale of the rigging was huge. Pakistan will continue in a cycle of destruction, or the military will have to take over.

I don't know which PTI supporters you have been talking to, but no one in my social circle believes that Noora is a "Jewish conspiracy against PTI". Some do believe that Nawaz is bought by certain people (like the US) to control Pakistan, which is probably not far from the truth.

 

[WishLivePak]

Okay, lets start with point 1: "Imran is a criminal"
How is he a criminal? Aside from his family issue, what else is there? Nawaz Sharif on the other hand, is a total fraud who robbed the country multiple times.
Pakistan PM `made millions in UK' - News - The Independent

He and his brother are also responsible for the murder of 14 people (Model town). So who would you prefer as a leader, someone who had a girlfriend once or someone who is corrupt and possibly a murderer?
Here's what's wrong with Nawaz continuing: He could rig the previous elections and does not want to let an investigation take place, so that he can rig the next elections too. There is absolutely no doubt that the elections were rigged and the fact that PMLN was so scared of opening even 4 constituencies indicates that the scale of the rigging was huge. Pakistan will continue in a cycle of destruction, or the military will have to take over.

I don't know which PTI supporters you have been talking to, but no one in my social circle believes that Noora is a "Jewish conspiracy against PTI". Some do believe that Nawaz is bought by certain people (like the US) to control Pakistan, which is probably not far from the truth.

Okay, lets start with point 1: "Imran is a criminal"
How is he a criminal? Aside from his family issue, what else is there?

Issues? You call zina an issue? Is zina not a crime under Pakistani law?
Please answer that first.

 

[TankMan]

Issues? You call zina an issue? Is zina not a crime under Pakistani law?
Please answer that first.

Yes, zina is a crime under Pakistani law but it is worth noting that
a) The "crime" was not committed in Pakistani jurisdiction.
b) No one pressed charges
c) It has no effect on the country's well being.

Now you answer me: Is getting 14 people killed and then sabotaging the legal process a crime or not? And why is corruption and money laundering by Nawaz Sharif acceptable to you?

 

[VCheng]

Yes, zina is a crime under Pakistani law but it is worth noting that
a) The "crime" was not committed in Pakistani jurisdiction.
b) No one pressed charges
c) It has no effect on the country's well being.

Now you answer me: Is getting 14 people killed and then sabotaging the legal process a crime or not? And why is corruption and money laundering by Nawaz Sharif acceptable to you?

But it does disqualify IK from being a member of Parliament due to violations of Articles 62 and 63.

 

[WishLivePak]

Yes, zina is a crime under Pakistani law but it is worth noting that
a) The "crime" was not committed in Pakistani jurisdiction.
b) No one pressed charges
c) It has no effect on the country's well being.

Now you answer me: Is getting 14 people killed and then sabotaging the legal process a crime or not? And why is corruption and money laundering by Nawaz Sharif acceptable to you?

a) Imran is still a Pakistani citizen. Just because you don't have a citizenship of a foreign country, does it mean you're free from being tried in Pakistan? So if you go to a country where you can commit all sorts of crime, which are not crime under US laws, you're a free man and Pakistan won't do anything about it? Boy, thanks for telling me. I bet many Pakistanis will go to US to do zina, as they can't be then tried in Pakistan.

You cannot go to US and drink alcohol all you want, commit zina and whatnot, then come to Pakistan and say you're devoted muslim and fill the requirements of article 62/63

So you're wrong with that statement.

b) No one pressed charges because, i mentioned in earlier post and you failed to read properly, PMLn is not seeking to make political turmoil any worse. It will only fuel anger. PMLn wants to resolve problems, like any other party (minus PAT), instead of making it worse.

c) Just because one kills someone, it is ok because it didn't affect the country's well being? Ok, i'll give you that. But how can a "proposed" criminal bring naya Pakistan? Guy who has broken Islamic and Pakistani law saying he's any different than other "leaders?"

To your last statement. It is not proven that Nawaz authorized the killings. Also the people who died confronted the police. You take law into hand, you bear the consequence. If it was a western nation, police would've been still lethal. You don't attack policemen and expect nothing in return. You go to courts and seek justice.

Now, legal process has not been sabotaged. The FIR can still be registered and you can still pursue Shahbaz.

How much does Imran khan pay in taxes? And how he says not to pay taxes, as he will not, and using hudi (whatever it is) system to send money? Is that ok? Is that not a war against the state? Is Imran not going to cripple the state just so Nawaz goes away?

Nawaz or anyone corruption is not acceptable to me and I've raised my voice for it. But then Imran is no saint, neither is Qadri. Almost every politcian is corrupt.

Though I feel bad for the dead, but again, they asked for the deaths.

 

[TankMan]

a) Imran is still a Pakistani citizen. Just because you don't have a citizenship of a foreign country, does it mean you're free from being tried in Pakistan? So if you go to a country where you can commit all sorts of crime, which are not crime under US laws, you're a free man and Pakistan won't do anything about it? Boy, thanks for telling me. I bet many Pakistanis will go to US to do zina, as they can't be then tried in Pakistan.

So you're wrong with that statement.

b) No one pressed charges because, i mentioned in earlier post and you failed to read properly, PMLn is not seeking to make political turmoil any worse. It will only fuel anger. PMLn wants to resolve problems, like any other party (minus PAT), instead of making it worse.

c) Just because one kills someone, it is ok because it didn't affect the country's well being? Ok, i'll give you that. But how can a "proposed" criminal bring naya Pakistan? Guy who has broken Islamic and Pakistani law saying he's any different than other "leaders?"

To your last statement. It is not proven that Nawaz authorized the killings. Also the people who died confronted the police. You take law into hand, you bear the consequence. If it was a western nation, police would've been still lethal. You don't attack policemen and expect nothing in return. You go to courts and seek justice.

Now, legal process has not been sabotaged. The FIR can still be registered and you can still pursue Shahbaz.

How much does Imran khan pay in taxes? And how he says not to pay taxes, as he will not, and using hudi (whatever it is) system to send money? Is that ok? Is that not a war against the state? Is Imran not going to cripple the state just so Nawaz goes away?

Nawaz or anyone corruption is not acceptable to me and I've raised my voice for it. But then Imran is no saint, neither is Qadri. Almost every politcian is corrupt.

Though I feel bad for the dead, but again, they asked for the deaths.

A) Unless someone specifically registers a case in Pakistan, Pakistan isn't supposed to do anything about it.
B) I was not talking about PMLN pressing charges, I was talking about the "victims" of his "crimes" pressing charges. I did read your post properly and I disagree with it. PMLN only wants to "solve the problem" to save their own asses.

C) No, its not OK. Having a child outside marriage is hardly comparable to killing someone. I support Imran Khan because his thinking is different and his cause is just. He has done good for the country and is a lot "cleaner" than the other politicians.

There are hundreds of videos of police grabbing and beating unarmed innocent people. They did not "attack" the police, it was the police who started harassing people.

The FIR registration process was extremely messed up and even now PMLN tried to "delay" the FIR registration.
PAT lawyers attempt to file FIRs against PM, 21 others at ‘abandoned’ police station – The Express Tribune
Lahore police delay registration of Model Town FIR until ‘final talks’ are held with PAT | Pakistan Today

How can you say that they "asked for it"? Those people were innocent, those 14 people including women did not do anything to deserve death. Almost a hundred other people were injured and police fired blindly at civilians. No one asked for that.

If every politician is corrupt, I'd prefer someone less corrupt instead of someone as corrupt as Nawaz. I never said Imran Khan is a saint but I do believe that he is many times better than the rest.