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Imran Khan announces Compromise Solution to resolve this rigging issue.

[PTI's Press Statement on Convenient Amnesia of the Government]

Central Information Secretary PTI, Dr Shireen Mazari, today regretted that despite a detailed exposition by Chairman Imran Khan yesterday on the PTI position on a Judicial Commission to probe the May 2013 electoral rigging and the need for a Joint Investigation Team to assist the Commission, the government is indulging in a dangerous game of misrepresentation and black propaganda. Mazari said the PTI Chairman’s statement of the Party’s position was clear and had been re-stated in an unambiguous manner by Khan in his Azadi Chowk speech yesterday evening. The main points that were clearly repeated by the Chairman yesterday were:

One: That an independent Judicial Commission be formed under the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

Two: That it should complete its probe and make public its findings within a period of 4-6 weeks.

Three: That the said Commission should be assisted in its investigations by a JIT comprising all the relevant Agencies including the MI and ISI.

Four: That the PTI dharna would continue during the period of the probe and the PM’s resignation would also not be demanded during the period of the probe.

Mazari said it was unfortunate that Mr Dar, who had led the negotiations from the government side with PTI has now suddenly suffered a severe memory lapse and forgotten that the first three points had already been agreed to by the government and that PTI had accepted their proposal for naming the Investigative team as a Special Investigation Team (SIT) instead of a JIT. It was also the government that proposed all relevant Agencies including the MI and ISI be made a part of the SIT. It was also the government that accepted a 45-day time limit for the probe’s completion. Ironically, it was the government that also introduced 4 military personnel to sit in on the negotiations.

Now suddenly the government and especially Mr Dar seem to have forgotten their own suggestions and commitments. This revealed that the government was never serious about any negotiated agreement just as it showed its political frivolity when it broke off negotiations just when an agreement was in sight.

Mazari asserted that it was factually incorrect for the government to say there is no provision for an Independent Judicial Commission to probe rigging and to be assisted by a JIT/SIT. Perhaps the government needs to do a serious re-reading of the Constitution especially Article 184:3 read together with Chapter 1, Part II and Article 199 of the Constitution.

Mazari also pointed out that the only new addition to the PTI demands was that PTI would continue its dharna during the period of the probe and, as a goodwill gesture reflecting a serious intent to get the rigging probe moving, would not demand the PM resignation during the period of the probe if conducted under an independent Inquisitorial Judicial Commission.

She regretted the fact that the government was deliberately misguiding the nation regarding the electoral rigging probe because it knew it would stand totally exposed as a government with no public mandate if an independent judicial probe was conducted.

Mazari also said it was unfortunate that perennial PTI-haters had jumped on the government bandwagon on the issue of a rigging probe to distort what Chairman Khan had demanded on behalf of PTI. One certainly did not expect a lawyer of Ms Asma Jehangir’s standing to simply ridicule the idea of seeking justice against electoral rigging by accusing PTI and its Chairman of seeking a role for the military in politics. The PTI position on this issue has always been categorical.

She said it was ironic that some people accepted the role of the military in the conduct of elections and in disaster relief but were hysterical if investigative agencies like the MI and ISI were part of an SIT. It is almost as if they regarded these two national agencies as enemy organizations. These are the same people who can dance with the RSS in India but find the PTI dharna promoting an “indecent culture” simply because women come in large numbers to listen to Sufi music and national taranas. These are the same people who only talk selectively of human rights – because a stamp of approval is needed from Western donors.

Mazari asserted that PTI believes in freedom of expression and tolerance - something that these people lack – but when words are deliberately twisted and positions misrepresented or particularistic agendas and to venomously target Chairman Khan who is presently the only credible political leader in the eyes of the nation, then those indulging in their agendas of hate must be exposed.

Mazari concluded that the PTI’s demand for and independent Judicial Commission to probe rigging in the May 2013 General Elections, assisted by a JIT/SIT comprising all relevant Agencies including MI and ISI, was legitimate and Constitutional. The nation cannot be fooled into thinking otherwise by the government and those with vested interests.

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Three: That the said Commission should be assisted in its investigations by a JIT comprising all the relevant Agencies including the MI and ISI.

There is simply no legal role for military intelligence agencies in a political issue. None whatsoever.
 
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There is simply no legal role for military intelligence agencies in a political issue. None whatsoever.

Lol then why govt. agreed to judicial commission including people of MI and ISI before if its unlawful? You do know that people of MI and ISI Were present in the first meeting just before the day PM lied in the parliament about the facilitation right?

Also know that all of this mess happened just because govt. wasn't doing what it should've done in the first place which was following the law and listen to PTI's initial wishes of opening 4 Halqa's for investigation.
 
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Lol then why govt. agreed to judicial commission including people of MI and ISI before if its unlawful? You do know that people of MI and ISI Were present in the first meeting just before the day PM lied in the parliament about the facilitation right?

Were they invited or were they "self-invited"? Any political role for the military is 100% illegal.
 
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Lol then why govt. agreed to judicial commission including people of MI and ISI before if its unlawful? You do know that people of MI and ISI Were present in the first meeting just before the day PM lied in the parliament about the facilitation right?
Were they invited or were they "self-invited"? Any political role for the military is 100% illegal.

PM Nawaz asked army to play the role of facilitator circumventing the parliament lol which the latter day, the press release from ISPR confirmed..after IK was invited to the Army chief, an initial meeting took place which included PTI and govt. representitives also people of MI and ISI with them..
 
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PM Nawaz asked army to play the role of facilitator circumventing the parliament lol which the latter day, the press release from ISPR confirmed..after IK was invited to the Army chief, an initial meeting took place which included PTI and govt. representitives also people of MI and ISI with them..

No matter who said what to whom, any political role for the military is illegal and disastrous for the country. There can be no denying this fact.
 
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No matter who said what to whom, any political role for the military is illegal and disastrous for the country. There can be no denying this fact.

Well In terms of Legality its kinda true what you said but then again, neither the govt. nor other parties follow proper legality here sadly..but reforms are the need of the moment..if constitution needs to be amended for it in the next few months then so be it..the current state of it doesn't allow a peaceful lawful solution to this mess..With what sort of law you can feel secured with if the federal state institutions can't be fully trusted in these kinds of matters? Trust deficit shoots upwards when there is little to no justice and accountability being done in a country...Courts here have gained freedom but can still be influenced if Govt. puts pressure on them internally sadly. These institutions need to be strengthened independently by the very same govt. which is trying to influence it.
 
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Well In terms of Legality its kinda true what you said but then again, neither the govt. nor other parties follow proper legality here sadly..but reforms are the need of the moment..if constitution needs to be amended for it in the next few months then so be it..the current state of it doesn't allow a peaceful lawful solution to this mess..With what sort of law you can feel secured with if the federal state institutions can't be fully trusted in these kinds of matters? Trust deficit shoots upwards when there is little to no justice and accountability being done in a country...Courts here have gained freedom but can still be influenced if Govt. puts pressure on them internally sadly. These institutions need to be strengthened independently by the very same govt. which is trying to influence it.

Employing illegal means to claim that it is being done for national interests is always self-defeating, as Pakistan's history clearly shows. No building can stand on foundations of quicksand.
 
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Employing illegal means to claim that it is being done for national interests is always self-defeating, as Pakistan's history clearly shows. No building can stand on foundations of quicksand.

The havoc that ocurred in Zia's reign as PM still shows its signs today..it's not easy to be fully lawful when the Nizaam itself fails to deliver justice and accountability at every avenue. Constitution doesn't allow for a lawful solution which means amendments needs to be made till it successfully starts delivering justice to every party.
 
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The havoc that ocurred in Zia's reign as PM still shows its signs today..it's not easy to be fully lawful when the Nizaam itself fails to deliver justice and accountability at every avenue. Constitution doesn't allow for a lawful solution which means amendments needs to be made till it successfully starts delivering justice to every party.

These kinds of justifications always fail. Zia was never a PM. He was a dictator by coup, and then an illegal "President". The Constitution does allow for lawful solutions, but only if it is respected and followed as the supreme law of the land, and only in a civilized country.
 
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We all must Give thanks to PTI dharna for making Pakistan win against Australia

please join me and raise your hand to great khan for making this win possible
 
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There is simply no legal role for military intelligence agencies in a political issue. None whatsoever.

they have a role in all sorts of investigation in order to assist the Judicial Commission (JC) once the JC has been provided the legal cover to investigate into this matter.

like i said before, JIT itself does not have the real mandate which only belongs to the JC. This is similar to NADRA assisting Election Tribunals even though NADRA has no legal role when it comes to 'political issues.' The mandate belonged to the tribunals who then asked NADRA for assistance. It is exactly the same parallel here.

Moreover, as the press release states, it was the govt which came up with the proposal of having ISI and MI representatives in the JIT (or SIT). With the demand for resignation withdrawn, this is just a tactic from the pro govt side to get rid of all the other demands such that the election probe literally becomes meaningless and open to manipulation.
 
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they have a role in all sorts of investigation in order to assist the Judicial Commission (JC) once the JC has been provided the legal cover to investigate into this matter.

No Sir. Please quote the law under which military intelligence agencies can meddle in political issues.
 
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No Sir. Please quote the law under which military intelligence agencies can meddle in political issues.

its not a political issue. Its a matter of investigating into pre and post election rigging. Once JC gets the legal cover to probe into it, there is nothing stopping any other institution from assisting the JC in completing its task. Where does it say that other state institutions are not allowed to assist any other 'body' in fulfilling its mandate?
 
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