Importance of Karachi and Karachiites for Pakistan

[Abdussamad]

The OP starts with a lie in its very first sentence. Karachi's population is not 30 million. It is 14 million people. I live in Karachi and if you want our city to be taken seriously you have to stick to the facts.

The exaggerated population figures are used an excuse for poor service delivery by the government of Karachi. We should not aid this effort of theirs by spreading these incorrect figures.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I have lost it? you are the one who is immersed in superiority complex, and looking down upon others. claiming that you are superior because you are a "son of the soil".


and you are the one who cannot accept the simple fact that some people among pashtoons were involved in hate crimes. and you are the one who started blaming all urdu speaking people for all the evils in Karachi. The mods should indeed shut this down.

WHERE DOES IT SAY "I AM SUPERIOR BECUASE I AM THE SON OF THE SOIL"?
You are a bullsh$tter, and a racist, trying to hid what you said by making up things that I havent said.

 

[S.Y.A]

WHERE DOES IT SAY "I AM SUPERIOR BECUASE I AM THE SON OF THE SOIL"?
You are a bullsh$tter, and a racist, trying to hid what you said by making up things that I havent said.

Oh really? then what is this BS about assimilating? if your culture isnt superior, but is equal then why should we assimilate? and why should your people not assimilate into Punjabi, Sindhi and Balochi cultures?

The OP starts with a lie in its very first sentence. Karachi's population is not 30 million. It is 14 million people. I live in Karachi and if you want our city to be taken seriously you have to stick to the facts.

The exaggerated population figures are used an excuse for poor service delivery by the government of Karachi. We should not aid this effort of theirs by spreading these incorrect figures.

not a lie. Karachi's population isnt 14 million and everyone knows it. the actual figure will cause a rise in seats of Karachi in provincial assembly, and PPP cant allow that. also, the govt in Karachi is powerless, again thanks to ppp transferring all of the powers of cdgk and kmc to provincial govt in 2008.

and may I remind you that we are the sons of this soil. Unlike the immigrants that came afterwards. It's the immigrants that need to blend into the society or cultures of where they live, in Pakistan. Not the sons of the soil.

there you go. this line of thinking that we need to blend in, is born out of the mindset that because they migrated here, they are somehow lesser, and must loose their identity and adopt yours. you didnt explicitly say it, but this is what is clearly implied here.

Btw, if you havent noticed, your claim that it was mqm that incited the violence (mqm still is a terrorist org and should be wiped out) has been rubbished earlier (1965 riots by some pashtoon supporters of ayub khan). and now you are just parroting the same racist rubbish again and again that migrants this and migrants that.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Oh really? then what is this BS about assimilating? if your culture isnt superior, but is equal then why should we assimilate? and why should your people not assimilate into Punjabi, Sindhi and Balochi cultures?


not a lie. Karachi's population isnt 14 million and everyone knows it. the actual figure will cause a rise in seats of Karachi in provincial assembly, and PPP cant allow that. also, the govt in Karachi is powerless, again thanks to ppp transferring all of the powers of cdgk and kmc to provincial govt in 2008.


there you go. this line of thinking that we need to blend in, is born out of the mindset that because they migrated here, they are somehow lesser, and must loose their identity and adopt yours. you didnt explicitly say it, but this is what is clearly implied here.

Btw, if you havent noticed, your claim that it was mqm that incited the violence (mqm still is a terrorist org and should be wiped out) has been rubbished earlier (1965 riots by some pashtoon supporters of ayub khan). and now you are just parroting the same racist rubbish again and again that migrants this and migrants that.

Immigrants from India should be assimilated into the province they are in and most have except those in Karachi. Why should my people not assimilate? Well I've told you that multiple times today but you are incapable of comprehension.

 

[Crusher]

Immigrants from India should be assimilated into the province they are in and most have except those in Karachi. Why should my people not assimilate? Well I've told you that multiple times today but you are incapable of comprehension.

Totally agree all immigrants from UP india etc. living in Lahore and Gujranwala are conversant in punjabi language, in fact most of the time you wouldn't even know if someone is muhajir unless they have a surname like "sidiqi" or "farooqi" etc. I had a class mate in lahore who I used to think had deep local origins due to his pure punjabi language but only later learned that his family is migrant from uttar pradesh in 1947.

 

[S.Y.A]

Why should my people not assimilate? Well I've told you that multiple times today but you are incapable of comprehension.

Naah, your people belong to kpk. if they go to other provinces then they should assimilate.

your entire reasoning revolves around you being a so called son of soil(who incidentally left his "soil" to live in canada), and as I said, your people are only sons of KPK's soil, not Punjab's, not Sindh's and not Balochistan's.

and perceived racial superiority is implied in your argument. immigrants are somehow lesser humans that they should leave their culture and language for yours. you, sir, are a closet racist and bigot, but wont accept it.

 

[Dubious]

Idiots why are you bashing each other and everyone who isn't you?

The thread was about Karachi and in my opinion only coz Karachi was bashed repeatedly on this forum by a handful of members not coz one is better than the other but to show that it isn't all the negative that other people have tried to portray it.


Kindly keep your insecurities to yourself...If by someone saying xyz to you can trigger you then you are ALSO a problem...

At this time Pakistan need you on IT'S side not your or hour ego so kindly keep your shit within you

RAMADAN ki last 10 nights mubarak!!

One more crap like this and I will ban you!!!

 

[Crusher]

Idiots why are you bashing each other and everyone who isn't you?

The thread was about Karachi and in my opinion only coz Karachi was bashed repeatedly on this forum by a handful of members not coz one is better than the other but to show that it isn't all the negative that other people have tried to portray it.


Kindly keep your insecurities to yourself...If by someone saying xyz to you can trigger you then you are ALSO a problem...

At this time Pakistan need you on IT'S side not your or hour ego so kindly keep your shit within you

RAMADAN ki last 10 nights mubarak!!

One more crap like this and I will ban you!!!

Better close this thread, it isn't contributing to anything positive or constructive.

 

[Abdussamad]

not a lie. Karachi's population isnt 14 million and everyone knows it.

no one knows that because it is not true. have you gone door to door to count the population? no you haven't. you're just guessing. the people that did go door to door came to the conclusion that the population is 14 million.

 

[Dubious]

Better close this thread, it isn't contributing to anything positive or constructive.

That is the problem here with trolls....If they don't like the topic and since they have no brains they troll the thread to closure!

At this rate NOTHING will ever be discussed due to these blackmailing emotional mafia

 

[Imad.Khan]

Exception, not the rule.

25% population of Karachi is Pukhtoons, they are involved in every fabric of the society. Apart from the newcomers, you won't even be able to tell the difference between them, we speak perfect Urdu, alot of my family members can speak Punjabi aswell. My dad can speak even Seraki which he learned from his best friend.

The pashtoons who were grabbing lands of urdu speaking and punjabis, backed by drug lords and klashinkovs armed men, and forcing their way in? quote the entire history not bits and pieces.

Isn't that exactly what you did when you mentioned Qasba colony. Do you know how many times i have been told to go back to KPK by these MQM thugs, even though my family has been in Karachi since the early 1900s way before the majority of the immigrants that came to Karachi.

 

[S.Y.A]

no one knows that because it is not true. have you gone door to door to count the population? no you haven't. you're just guessing. the people that did go door to door came to the conclusion that the population is 14 million.

Puh lease. Entire elections are hijacked in this country for power. This is a census that can change balance of power in the province and its results would not be manipulated? You are very naive.

25% population of Karachi is Pukhtoons, they are involved in every fabric of the society. Apart from the newcomers, you won't even be able to tell the difference between them, we speak perfect Urdu, alot of my family members can speak Punjabi aswell. My dad can speak even Seraki which he learned from his best friend.



Isn't that exactly what you did when you mentioned Qasba colony. Do you know how many times i have been told to go back to KPK by these MQM thugs, even though my family has been in Karachi since the early 1900s way before the majority of the immigrants that came to Karachi.

Then you are a better man than I or pakhtoon yum.

My family has married into pukhtoons, punjabis and seraikis and vice versa.

The point here was that your Pashtoon brother was painting the entire community with one brush. The point i am trying to make is that there have been excesses on both sides, criminals exist among all ethnicities, re read my comments. What i said was to answer him, he is the one trying to absolve criminals in pashtons of all sins, whereas i have admitted that mqm people are terrorists, if that looked like a blanket fatwa on pashtoons, then I apologize for that.

 

[Well.wisher]

The rise of right movements in Pakistan, the rise of voices for the missing persons from 3 of the 5 provinces of Pakistan, the rise of cross border tensions between 3 of the 4 neighbors, rise of hate among the deprived segment of Pakistan, attitude and conduct of system towards the citizens of Pakistan, decreasing tolerance, no unity and no trust among people, is indacting a great change in the region.
The system needs to change its attitude, people need to realise their responsibility which comes before right!
And please sustain a humanitarian and a acceptable behaviour towards others. Haste, hate, anger and bickering will just increase the tension and hinder the path to progress. Words have more power only if conveyed in a right and acceptable way!
May Allah keep us and this state, Pakistan safe from all evils and May this country emerge as a world power in the days upcoming!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
PAKISTAN PAINDABAD

 

[Imad.Khan]

Puh lease. Entire elections are hijacked in this country for power. This is a census that can change balance of power in the province and its results would not be manipulated? You are very naive.


Then you are a better man than I or pakhtoon yum.

I am no better or worse than anyone, we are all equal.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Naah, your people belong to kpk. if they go to other provinces then they should assimilate.

your entire reasoning revolves around you being a so called son of soil(who incidentally left his "soil" to live in canada), and as I said, your people are only sons of KPK's soil, not Punjab's, not Sindh's and not Balochistan's.

and perceived racial superiority is implied in your argument. immigrants are somehow lesser humans that they should leave their culture and language for yours. you, sir, are a closet racist and bigot, but wont accept it.

Then you need to learn the history of the country you live in. Pakhtoons live in balochistan, kpk, Kashmir, gilgit and in Punjab as a mix of pakhtoon and Punjabi. Known as pathans.