Imperial America's Next Target India

[asad71]

1. Throughout history imperial/colonial powers have craved Indes'/Hindustan's fabled wealth. Except the Romans and Huns no one left India unattended. They conquered even for the sake of conquest. They invaded to loot. They came to stay.

2.Imperial America is now power drunk. See the revelry after killing a dead Shaykh. They want more.

3. There are other reasons too. India has been trying to toe somewhat independent line when America called. This was not appreciated. ME wars and Afghan conquest are examples when India refused base facility to USA. India is an irritation to US planners, diplomats and conquerors. Lately she has demanded a permanent seat in UNSC. She is getting too large for her boots.

4. USA must be watching India's industrial growth, rise in the highly qualified personnel,tremendous growth of the private sector throwing up couple of US$ billionaires. Is she getting out of control, thinks Uncle Sam?

5. India has been developing her massive mily at a fast pace. Particularly her navy has become source of concern for littoral states of Indian Ocean and S Pacific. Australians are openly distrustful. India is looking for bases all over. She has something in Antarctica also.

6. WCC need a compliant India, not a cocky one. Her vast manpower should be available to slave in WCC's factories, industries and farms. Her soldiers should willingly die for America as they did for Imperial Britain. Her resources should be available to WCC to exploit.

7. But the most important of all is conversion to Christianity. The last pope had famously said, "The first millennium was Europe, second Africa and in this third millennium it will be Asia."And soon thereafter, an unknown Albanian nun was given the Noble and became the famous Mother Teressa. According to activist Tariq Ali, she is still little known in the slums of Kolkata. Vatican has been upset over recent spate of attacks on nurses and killings of priests and nuns covertly and cleverly converting people to their faith.

8. Where WCC went they carried the sword and the bible. They literally destroyed cultures, civilizations and massacred practically the entire population. We in Asia haven't experienced even a percent of what Africans, N and S Americans, Australians, Micronesian or even the Moriscos of Al Andalusia have been through. The missionary, with a pasted false smile, come to us as a teacher, doctor or an NGO these days, never revealing his true mission - conversion through various ruses and tricks and monetary benefit. The pace of conversion, and even forced conversion, in SA shot up in 1858. S Asian communities were divided and subdivided into ethnic and linguistic groups, and the Muslims and Hindus at large were put on a clash course. A good example is Indian film. The bad guy is always a Hindu or a Muslim and a padre is the person they come to for refuge/advise/assistance. Christianity emerges as the Good. And the converting padre reaped the benefit, and continues so.

9. I have been to Arubindo's Island off Kanya Kumari. When looking N to SA in the morning sky, I was shocked to see only tops of churches in India. There was no mosque or 'mandir' that I could make out. Leading schools and hospitals in India are run and owned by missionaries. Christian endowments are v rich. Sonia is a Catholic who had married Rajiv firstly according to Catholic rituals. Rahul was christened by a padre when born, and named Raul Gandhi. So WCC is already in.

10. EHMs (Economic Hit Men) are getting into place. Manmohan Singh - with his IMF background, is said to be one. WB has by now got a good hold of Indian economy. MNCs are in. So the stage is set.

In fact this is my post starting the Thread. The post #1 is an article from an Indian living in DC. Post # is review of former IA Chief Paddy's book on the subject.

 

[asad71]

The Writing on the Wall: India Checkmates America 2017
General S. Padmanabhan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM (Retd.)

Manas Publishers, New Delhi, 2004

Pages: 300
Price: Rs. 595

It is not often that a former Chief of Army Staff spends his golden years writing fiction. The last one to put pen to paper was General K. Sundarji whose fictional account of nuclear exchanges between India and Pakistan did much to educate India’s political leaders and the policy-making elite, largely unschooled in the finer nuances of national security, about the rudiments of nuclear strategy. Over a decade after Sundarji’s Blind Men of Hindoostan, General Padmanabhan has added a new novel to this genre of writing from former army chiefs. Paddy’s The Writing on the Wall: India Checkmates America 2017 has broken new ground in fictional writing on India’s national security.

Paddy’s optimistic though highly wishful scenario begins with a government of national unity in 2003 that formulates a comprehensive, long-term national security policy. The General argues that since the United States (US) enjoys unprecedented military superiority in a unipolar world, it is increasingly basing its responses to crisis situations affecting its security on the doctrine of pre-emption. This is bound to lead to more and more wars with smaller and weaker nations. Therefore, countries like India should develop their military might to deter war and, if that does not succeed, to respond appropriately to fight and win. He recommends a fully functional nuclear force, a strategically capable air force, viable national missile defence, enhanced Special Forces capabilities and the immediate filling of organisational and equipment voids in the army’s fighting formations.

He also wants the annual defence budget to be scaled up to at least three per cent of the GDP, a well-conceived defence acquisition plan to be launched early and the development of an indigenous military-technological capability with investments in cutting edge technologies that exploit India’s strengths. These are all noble thoughts and the author is convinced that a government of national unity will be able to give effect to them. However, the reality is quite different. National security has never been a priority with India’s politicians and their bureaucrat advisors and this is unlikely to change so easily. If it not politically problematic, India’s policy planners would rather pretend that a problem does not exist than spend time, effort and money to find a solution.

However, in the book General Padmanabhan’s fictional government exhibits the necessary political will when necessary. For example, in retaliation for a Kaluchak-type attack in Jammu in 2008, India attacks and captures the Haji Pir Pass which the army was forced to give back to Pakistan under the Tashkent agreement in 1966. with help form China and Russia, India is admitted as a permanent member of the United Nations (UN) Security Council and succeeds in resolving its territorial and boundary dispute with China in 2008. It joins China and Russia to forge a cooperative Asian security framework and signs a treaty of peace friendship and cooperation with these Asian giants as well as with Vietnam. All these activities do not go down too well with the US that continues to foster Pakistan as a major ally and together the dirty tricks departments of the two nations engender acts of terrorism and instability in India.

Hence, the stage is gradually set for an Indo-Pak conflict which dutifully erupts in 2017. Thanks to the well-conceived defence plans, within two days of the commencement of hostilities, the Pakistan air force is no longer effective and its navy is bottled up. The Indian army then dismembers Pakistan with a sledge-hammer blow through Sind and captures almost all of . The US enters the war on the side of its ally. The US fires Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles at Hyderabad from a carrier battle group in the Arabian Sea but these are intercepted and destroyed by India’s newly-installed national missile shield. India chooses to respond with its “soft” power. The scene then shifts to the continental US where India unleashes a powerful electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) and launches computer viruses in a “cyber attack” to disrupt communications and command and control computers as well as major commercial centres to plunge US “administration, commerce and banking sectors into chaos.”

Russia and China strongly support India and the US stands isolated in the UN Security Council. The short and sharp war goes badly for Pakistan and the fundamentalist mullahs seize the opportunity to stage a coup to overthrow the military government. This is where the scenario is the least plausible – in its zeal to save its ally, the US almost pleads with India to send in its Special Forces to restore the situation in Pakistan! That would be poetic justice indeed. The UN intervenes, a grateful Pakistani government agrees to handover and the Northern Areas to India and all is well that ends well. India emerges from the 60-hour war with its honour intact and the Kashmir dispute solved once and for all.

It is indeed heartening that despite having served several tenures in Army HQ, including at its helm as the army chief, General Padmanabhan is extremely optimistic that government processes and procedures can be transformed so completely as to be able to take a dispassionate and unbiased view of national security. However, the reality is quite different. Though India has now had a National Security Council for about a decade, it has seldom met to consider the position papers that the National Security Advisory Board (NSAB) occasionally churns out. The NSAB is known to have carried out a comprehensive Strategic Defence Review that is probably gathering dust in some musty wooden almirahs in the corridors of South Block or Patel Bhavan. The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) meets often enough, but the meetings are basically of the fire-fighting variety to formulate quick responses to emerging situations, particularly those with strong political overtones like the ongoing agitation in Manipur against the Armed Forces Special Powers Act. Very little, if any, thought is actually given to holistic and comprehensive long-term national security planning.

Though not as racy and colourful as a Tom Clancy or a Humphrey Hawksley novel, Gen Padmanabhan’s book has generated immense interest and curiosity as it tracks the trajectory of India’s rise to regional and world power status over almost two decades and culminates in military exchanges with Pakistan and the US in 2017. Predictions, it has been said, are very difficult to make – especially if they are about the future. Whether India’s inevitable future rise will be peaceful, a claim that China is loudly making for its own rise, or whether India will find its place in the sun only through turmoil and conflict, perhaps even with the US, is something that only time will tell. Meanwhile, The Writing on the Wall will serve as a reminder that in a world that is still dominated by realpolitik things can go horribly wrong if a nation’s foreign policy and national security policy do not keep pace with geo-political and geo-economic developments. All members of the policy planning community must read this book even if they find themselves disagreeing with its conflict scenarios and happy ending[/QUOTE]



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[Zabaniyah]

1.Sorry, I am not in politics.

2. But I do suspect you to be a RAW or RSS plant in this Forum hiding under a BD flag. My reason is clear. You have been v active in trying to sabotage any meaningful discussion on the topic. You have done the same in some other threads also.

A RAW agent wasting time in a forum? Nice, nice...

Thanks for the entertainment

 

[Dalai Lama]

1.Sorry, I am not in politics.

2. But I do suspect you to be a RAW or RSS plant in this Forum hiding under a BD flag. My reason is clear. You have been v active in trying to sabotage any meaningful discussion on the topic. You have done the same in some other threads also.

He said it! He actually said it!

 

[PakistaniPacifist]

Finding it extremely hilarious that an Indian of all people is claiming that Bengali's are not a martial race when in reality there is no nation of people as timid, weak and pathetic as the Indians.

 

[praveen]

Finding it extremely hilarious that an Indian of all people is claiming that Bengali's are not a martial race when in reality there is no nation of people as timid, weak and pathetic as the Indians.

Bengalis are soo martial that they needed india's assistance to gain independence in 1971 and Pakistanis are so martial that Nawaz Sharif had to go to Washington to get a ceasefire agreement in Kargil

 

[praveen]

Show me one martial Bangladeshi in the whole picture yet the incident the picture captured culminated in the genesis of Bangladesh.

 

[Roby]

2. India has weapons of mass destruction and is a constant threat to our key ally Pakistan. Pakistan's WMD are now benign because A.Q. Khan is under house arrest and can no longer indulge in nuclear proliferation.

3. India falsely accuses Pakistan of cross-border terrorism. We cannot believe India because Pakistan, a model democracy, is fighting the war on terrorism with us.

It is pretty clear who wrote this bull crap.

 

[Night_Raven]

One of the funniest posts on PDF !

Alas, some guys simply fail to understand humour !

 

[Tshering22]

Mods, really please close down this thread. It is such a waste of bandwidth and reduces the quality of posts here on PDF.

 

[Tshering22]

Hehe, you must be really pissed then since you got beaten to pulp by these "timid, weak, pathetic Indians".

Guess inferiority complex does get people even at their peak times .

 

[Zabaniyah]

Finding it extremely hilarious that an Indian of all people is claiming that Bengali's are not a martial race when in reality there is no nation of people as timid, weak and pathetic as the Indians.

I am sorry my dear English friend, but the British Empire is no more

Hence the term 'martial race' are irrelevant. In fact, the term originated from the UK.

Crap, was meant to hit report button and accidentally hit the thanks button.

Epic fail

I hope the mods close down this tread. Although I have to admit that it is genuinely funny