Immoral shameless conspiracy based Aurat march

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You dont discuss pornography but you think it is natural enough to be given as an example to counter something natural like periods? You see the problem? You dont wish to talk about periods (natural) and equate it to pornography (bayhudai)!

There is a BIG difference between SEX and pornography you equating the 2 or even using both in the same paragraph kind of shows alot!

Same internet also gives you WRONG information and misinformation, who is to guide you? As for sex education, if your mother who raised you cant educate you about it, why should a non mehram online educate you? How is that ok?

Yes, that is the thinking of one madhaab. Another states, She can read Quran, zubaan pak hoti hai....but yes the rest is true. Tell me how many guys knew that or understand that?

Physiologically speaking the women is weak during those times and even ALLAH allowed her to rest but in a Pakistani household, if she takes rest, she is questioned, made fun of and no one is there to understand her. THIS attitude is what women feel and bottle up frustration. When ALLAH allowed her to rest from something as important as namaaz and fasting, who is men to question her or degrade her?

saheh hadith says
she cant touch Quran but can read if she remember some part of Quran

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Physiologically speaking the women is weak during those times and even ALLAH allowed her to rest but in a Pakistani household, if she takes rest, she is questioned, made fun of and no one is there to understand her. THIS attitude is what women feel and bottle up frustration. When ALLAH allowed her to rest from something as important as namaaz and fasting, who is men to question her or degrade her?

Yes thats true. But the poster meant something else

 

[Mentee]

You are as oblivious about such issues as the "spoiled brat" you are calling!

He's got a point the majority peddling this disgust really is elitist brats. Then there are these lil retarded sissy issues of them which they blame upon society like daddy once shouted at me for being an a hole, how sad! These punks are fed with haram from the very get go by their corrupt parents largely responsible for plundering the country. What contribution do they have in academics other than writing trendy hippie blogs and holding a guitar once in a while? Always aping the whites and cursing the fellow brown plebes

 

[Dubious]

saheh hadith says
she cant touch Quran but can read if she remember some part of Quran

Same books also has hadith where Prophet leaned against Hadrat Aisha R.A. and read the Quran. If she is so napak our piyaray nabi wouldnt lean against her.

As a Muslim who prays, we all have memorized some parts of the Quran so we can do zikir and are allowed to read those parts. Some mulana say as long as she isnt touching the Quran physically, she can read like on a tablet. Then again the Quran is a book to be read, even non Muslims read it and they eat pork, so how do we draw the line?

 

[fitpOsitive]

Chodu western feminists and their allies in non-western nations would criticize non-western men day and night,without understanding crux of the problem...There are not enough jobs to go around to employ full time all working age men AND women...western feminists should tell western men to do complete tech transfer, factory transfer, patent liberlization---->and then automatically our women would be free...western women got economic freedom during WW2 as there were not enough men to man the factories, and two decades later they got full sexual freedom....Our women won't go through that unless and until Western nations make it possible that we are on the same level as them economically

It doesnot cost much to shame non-western men, but it costs a lot to do complete tech transfer

Nichts kommt kostenlos.
West gained everything, earned everything. But their civilization is their biggest enemy. We lost everything, we sold everything, but our civilization is our last hope.

 

[Dubious]

He's got a point the majority peddling this disgust really is elitist brats. Then there are these lil retarded sissy issues of them which they blame upon society like daddy once shouted at me for being an a hole, how sad! These punks are fed with haram from the very get go by their corrupt parents largely responsible for plundering the country. What contribution do they have in academics other than writing trendy hippie blogs and holding a guitar once in a while? Always aping the whites and cursing the fellow brown plebes

I can agree with that, but we are all speculating and that itself is bad.

We are talking bad about a bad based on speculations.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Nichts kommt kostenlos.
West gained everything, earned everything. But their civilization is their biggest enemy. We lost everything, we sold everything, but our civilization is our last hope.

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And now South Asia wants to become developed at the twilight of human civilization...Global Warming and unethical Chinese industrialization (blasted a hole through ozone layer after it healed up) would cause a general catastrophic collapse within next 50 years itself...we being home to 1.6 billion of world population have much bigger fish to fry than according women sexual and economic freedom of a modern western woman...what good is freedom when you won't be able to stay alive anyways?

 

[Mentee]

I can agree with that, but we are all speculating and that itself is bad.

We are talking bad about a bad based on speculations.

Drug culture in universities was their brain child, sounds kool .

 

[Yankee-stani]

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And now South Asia wants to become developed at the twilight of human civilization...Global Warming and unethical Chinese industrialization (blasted a hole through ozone layer after it healed up) would cause a general catastrophic collapse within next 50 years itself...we being home to 1.6 billion of world population have much bigger fish to fry than according women sexual and economic freedom of a modern western woman...what good is freedom when you won't be able to stay alive anyways?

Lets be quite frank South Asia future is stagnation, you will have some massive infrastructure projects here and there to show the masses that the nation is moving forward, that's it really I just see Pakistan being propped up by China and India propped up by the US

 

[StormBreaker]

That isnt Aurat march. That's gay parade! Confused crap!


That is a little too late. I have seen how guys who have not been taught about it react when they first find out. An adult married man finding out is bit too late in my opinion!


Not every daughter has a mother. Sadly such daughters have to rely on others to teach her...Which is sad.


I dont think it is vulgar. Maybe she is from a paindu family?


Pornography can be discussed within some means but **** is not natural, I hope you know that so it is not the same

Please talk in today's context and in this age of information no educated adult man living a urban life is unaware of periods . If you are a married woman you should have a better idea how informed your hubby was.And that aurat march poster was not aimed at men in our rural areas. They are not going village to village to spread awareness bcz thats not their agenda.

Don't make exceptions talk generally what applies to most homes. Even if she doesn't have a mother than her close family relatives like phuppi,khala can tell her.

No way she is a paindu. She is just another spoiled brat like many in that march.That poster is just another attempt to defame men.

Well what can I say you spent most of your life abroad I guess and studied there,maybe normal to you. But here in Pakistan we don't openly discuss pornography and if we start doing so then we should not be complaining about that behudaa aurat march. Sex is natural even when it means only between hubby and wife but still the sex and all those intimate details cannot be discussed publicly.If someone needs sex education internet Zindabad.

CALM DOWN PEOPLE !!!!

It isn’t pleasant to see a debate among members of same side. @Mangus Ortus Novem But in the midst of this debate, both of you have come up with good points, there however needs a balance and a third party involved, Allow me !!


Sex Education as per the west, i still have no idea as to what they refer to but i do know that the education they want in Pakistan should be conveyed through school which I don’t see as a good solution, actually a very bad solution with bad consequences.

As child enters 11-12, Parents must start getting open with their kids, definitely nothing dumb about discussing this with children, Jab paida kia hai to zimidari banti hai important information convey karna.

Most parents and our society in general, Consider this a taboo to discuss, i am from a good Religious Background, My family and all but neither of my parents came up to me with this talk, I once as a kid, overheard my innocent mom asking my dad with my reference, “How do boys understand everything ?” And my father replied “Khud pata chal jata hai”, by that time, i was already having some mild clues about these things but nothing really important tho, maybe i was 9 or 10. Then in time, through friends, I started to understand all this, got very ashamed and confused about this reproductive system of a human life cycle. One if my teacher told my about Ghusl and all but none of my parents.

Now, Considering our society, I have known very bad cases of Newly wed couples, getting injured, not educated with basic knowledge, going all wrong, Ending up with 4-5 or even 10+ kids in a span of a decade (especially in sindh and southern Punjab), but these people have a stupid mindset “Beta chahiye, bhale hi usse pehle 100 betian kyun na ho jaen, warna biwi tabdeel”.

New adults, in colleges and universities, fed all this adult knowledge through usual school friend circle or neighbourhood kids, know things that aren’t actually healthy or proper. This is where things go wrong, When you learn sex education via your age kids, in schools and neighborhood kids/friends. Your fetish increases, fall into all sorts of wrong things, Po*nography, Non-Healthy acts, Homo or adultery, some as a consequence fall into drugs and all.

Solution : Parents should just break the stupid subcontinental stereotypes and stupid backward mentality, take inspiration from the Life of Prophet SA and the Sahabas, how everything was openly discussed. They should eventually prepare their children to understand everything as time goes on, as if you have entered a Parent Operated, Sex education university at 11 and you will graduate in 4-5 years.

Outcomes : When parents directly guide their kids about the sexuality, what is good, bad, what to do and what to avoid, take them into confidence about their concerns and caring nature towards the child, Child will automatically grow up to be open and truthful to the parents, will definitely avoid any sort of wrongdoings during or after higher education, Parents should also focus on and in turn give hope and support their kids to get married at early age, like 22-25, as well as care for the opinions and choices of the kid, The society will in turn move towards positivity and adultery rates would come down extremely fast. Whole generation has been lost thanks to the retarded upbringing of most current parents and subcontinental retarded values are to be blamed for.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Please talk in today's context and in this age of information no educated adult man living a urban life is unaware of periods . If you are a married woman you should have a better idea how informed your hubby was.And that aurat march poster was not aimed at men in our rural areas. They are not going village to village to spread awareness bcz thats not their agenda.

Don't make exceptions talk generally what applies to most homes. Even if she doesn't have a mother than her close family relatives like phuppi,khala can tell her.

No way she is a paindu. She is just another spoiled brat like many in that march.That poster is just another attempt to defame men.

Well what can I say you spent most of your life abroad I guess and studied there,maybe normal to you. But here in Pakistan we don't openly discuss pornography and if we start doing so then we should not be complaining about that behudaa aurat march. Sex is natural even when it means only between hubby and wife but still the sex and all those intimate details cannot be discussed publicly.If someone needs sex education internet Zindabad.

Mujhe nahi pta that Periods ka, until I turned 26. And that is not so distant past.

 

[Mentee]

Lets be quite frank South Asia future is stagnation, you will have some massive infrastructure projects here and there to show the masses that the nation is moving forward, that's it really I just see Pakistan being propped up by China and India propped up by the US

Its sumbul agha written all over this March.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Das sollten unsere Eliten verstehen..Ohne Aufklärung passiert nichts

And now South Asia wants to become developed at the twilight of human civilization...Global Warming and unethical Chinese industrialization (blasted a hole through ozone layer after it healed up) would cause a general catastrophic collapse within next 50 years itself...we being home to 1.6 billion of world population have much bigger fish to fry than according women sexual and economic freedom of a modern western woman...what good is freedom when you won't be able to stay alive anyways?

Exactly. My point of view is we both should reduce tensions and should concentrate on human development.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

CALM DOWN PEOPLE !!!!

It isn’t pleasant to see a debate among members of same side. @Mangus Ortus Novem But in the midst of this debate, both of you have come up with good points, there however needs a balance and a third party involved, Allow me !!


Sex Education as per the west, i still have no idea as to what they refer to but i do know that the education they want in Pakistan should be conveyed through school which I don’t see as a good solution, actually a very bad solution with bad consequences.

As child enters 11-12, Parents must start getting open with their kids, definitely nothing dumb about discussing this with children, Jab paida kia hai to zimidari banti hai important information convey karna.

Most parents and our society in general, Consider this a taboo to discuss, i am from a good Religious Background, My family and all but neither of my parents came up to me with this talk, I once as a kid, overheard my innocent mom asking my dad with my reference, “How do boys understand everything ?” And my father replied “Khud pata chal jata hai”, by that time, i was already having some mild clues about these things but nothing really important tho, maybe i was 9 or 10. Then in time, through friends, I started to understand all this, got very ashamed and confused about this reproductive system of a human life cycle. One if my teacher told my about Ghusl and all but none of my parents.

Now, Considering our society, I have known very bad cases of Newly wed couples, getting injured, not educated with basic knowledge, going all wrong, Ending up with 4-5 or even 10+ kids in a span of a decade (especially in sindh and southern Punjab), but these people have a stupid mindset “Beta chahiye, bhale hi usse pehle 100 betian kyun na ho jaen, warna biwi tabdeel”.

New adults, in colleges and universities, fed all this adult knowledge through usual school friend circle or neighbourhood kids, know things that aren’t actually healthy or proper. This is where things go wrong, When you learn sex education via your age kids, in schools and neighborhood kids/friends. Your fetish increases, fall into all sorts of wrong things, Po*nography, Non-Healthy acts, Homo or adultery, some as a consequence fall into drugs and all.

Solution : Parents should just break the stupid subcontinental stereotypes and stupid backward mentality, take inspiration from the Life of Prophet SA and the Sahabas, how everything was openly discussed. They should eventually prepare their children to understand everything as time goes on, as if you have entered a Parent Operated, Sex education university at 11 and you will graduate in 4-5 years.

Outcomes : When parents directly guide their kids about the sexuality, what is good, bad, what to do and what to avoid, take them into confidence about their concerns and caring nature towards the child, Child will automatically grow up to be open and truthful to the parents, will definitely avoid any sort of wrongdoings during or after higher education, Parents should also focus on and in turn give hope and support their kids to get married at early age, like 22-25, as well as care for the opinions and choices of the kid, The society will in turn move towards positivity and adultery rates would come down extremely fast. Whole generation has been lost thanks to the retarded upbringing of most current parents and subcontinental retarded values are to be blamed for.

 

[StormBreaker]

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

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