IMF:Bangladesh GDP 249 Billion USD, Per capita 1,525 USD in 2017.

[Nilgiri]

@Khan_21 You Know wat, when i asked Bangladeshis here if you guys are progressing so fast why your cement, oil, electricity consumption/Production, is more than half of pakistan. their answer will be look at our geneder equality, look at terrorism index look at HDI index we are still better than pakistan.

Bec its weird for me if you more develop these thing shows how much actually your country is progressing.

When we look at china they are on top in these consumptions. same goes to any develop country. To b honest i dont believe on their country data they sucks in fact. Now i am totaly agree @Nilgiri that their Govt. is only showing wrond numbers just to show how much they are progressing.

Even if you ask them what new projects currently going on in Bangaldesh except Padma bridge or 4-5 more bigger project which are in pipeline there is nothing on ground.

When they talk about discrimination in pakistan that Isd is getting more national share while other provinces are sacrficing. But thet forgot that except in Dhaka there is nothing in other states. Most of people come to dhaka even for basic work. Thats why Dhaka sucks in so much traffic jam. but nope there is no discrimination is here. At the end they will start again from 1971 how they start from zero. You know its like their life born from 1971 before that they were weraing leafe clothese and houses were madeup of mud.

Pakistan Bangladesh
GDP Nomina(2017)
330B Est 249B
GDP PPP
1.060 T 650B
Oil Consumption
550k BB/Day 120BB/Day
House Hold Consumption
245B Usd 141B USD
Energy Use per Cap
525Kw 250KW


But if you ask them wat is this above, they will start again no no we will over take pakistan soon


We have something, but wat you guys have except Padma bridge

For any country, I have a rule now.... always look up its corruption rating in CPI index.

If it is both terrible rank and also stagnant in ranking, take every statistic (esp with low vetting from any 3rd party) to be suspect at best (for default, till proven otherwise with enough evidence).

India and Pakistan are both ranked pretty low in CPI ranking (just like most developing countries in general), but both are not as badly ranked as BD and are improving for the better at least. Same cannot be said about BD.

Thats not to say every number coming out of BD is wrong...it is very variable (and dependent on vetting exposure because of the high corruption and political gain tied into this). Their demographic data is generally good (its notoriously difficult to fake census counting without cascading many nasty problems) and their direct economic data is ok (again really hard to fake given the globalised economy)...but their mortality and health data are very suspect among others.

Thats also why their nominal data for GDP outperforms their PPP (which has far more global standardisation and vetting within the ICP framework). Nominal GDP gets a boost from having high % exposure to export industries....but PPP is only really boosted by actual high consumption per capita in volumes of all goods. Its a fundamental difference I have seen maybe 1 or 2 members from BD able to understand. Rest go into stuck turntable mode .

 

[Species]

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...wer-projects-in-bangladesh/article9598488.ece
Reliance intends to generate 3,000 MW using LNG from a Floating Storage Regasification Unit (FSRU) to be installed by it. The first phase of this project for generation of 700 MW in Meghnaghat has been approved. The Adani Group intends to supply power using dedicated transmission lines to Bangladesh from the two 660 MW plants to be set up in Jharkhand. In addition, public sector companies such as Petronet, IOCL and the Numaligarh Refinery Ltd have also expressed interest in the oil and gas sector in Bangladesh. In January 2016, the Adani Group and Reliance ADAG announced their intent to invest around $11 billion in power, LNG and ports sectors in Bangladesh.

This link alone says 4320MW. And this is from 2015. Then there was a follow on agreement for $10B worth of investments.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...ent-pacts-worth-9-billion-117040900614_1.html
India supplies 600 Mw of power to Bangladesh through two existing interconnections at Bheramara-Baharampur and Tripura-South Comilla. Another 500 Mw will be provided by India through the Bheramara-Baharampur interconnection.

The two sides have agreed to set up additional interconnection between Bornagar in Assam and Parbatipur in Bangladesh, and also Katihar in Bihar, for power evacuation facilities from which Bangladesh can draw 1,000 Mw of power. The two sides are also discussing supply of 340 Mw from various NTPC stations.

So, here's another 2440MW from within India.

That 10B worth of new investments is extra. So 6760MW right there.

The $10b deals are nothing new, they just signed the MoUs committed earlier in 2015. @Bilal9 @TopCat

So as it goes, the approved projects,

Reliance: 600MW
Adani: 700MW
India already supplying: 600MW, perhaps additional 600MW
Rampal Power plant: 1000MW
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Total: 3.5GW (And we are still unsure how much of it will actually materialize)

 

[randomradio]

The $10b deals are nothing new, they just signed the MoUs committed earlier in 2015. @Bilal9 @TopCat

So as it goes, the approved projects,

Reliance: 600MW
Adani: 700MW
India already supplying: 600MW, perhaps additional 600MW
Rampal Power plant: 1000MW
-----------------------------------------------------
Total: 3.5GW (And we are still unsure how much of it will actually materialize)

You think BD won't accept power investments? All of them will be approved.

 

[Species]

Completely incorrect.

How is this landlocked?

The purpose of the BD-NE railway line is to open up BD's market to India from both sides. And also provide NE and the rest of India with another mainline connection.

Let's not forget that it will give India an alternate path for its military during war with China.

The rail links and highways we have with NE is plenty for the amount of people living in the region.

I seriously think you have a poor knowledge about the geography of the region. The Northeast is linked with Mainland India through the narrow Siliguri Corridor which is susceptible to regular landslides ad landfalls. Do you even know for how many months Tripura remain severed with rest of India every year due to poor communication system? The transit for the Northeast is to ensure their access to our sea ports that will allow them to trade with the outside world. Meanwhile, access to the Bangladeshi market will make them dependent on Bangladesh.

And do you know how many cantonments are scattered across Bangladesh? And why do you think China is supplying the sophisticated air defence systems? All of these will ensure Bangladesh remains neutral in a regional conflict.

You think BD won't accept power investments? All of them will be approved.

That depends on the capability to pour money, India has never been a major investment source for Bangladesh. Even Pakistanis has more investments in Bangladesh than Indians.

Of course. As I said, BD will be no different from a state in India.

Yeah, okay.

Nope. Defence and security pacts are always secret.[/QUOTE]

Again, okay.

That's okay. We will be training your navy. The defence pact also includes military training.

Our navy is receiving training from several countries. That will ensure the know-how about the operational strategies and curriculum of different navies including India.

 

[Species]

wtf do this guy even knows what he is talking about, i regularly visit assam by trains, roads in my 8 years I never saw the pathways blocked and its plain area, tripura is much further south.
bangladesh plays no important role in connecting india to north east, its just one of the extra route we can have.

You think Assam is the only state in Northeast?

And FYI,
http://thediplomat.com/2013/11/geographys-curse-indias-vulnerable-chickens-neck/
Geography's Curse: India's Vulnerable 'Chicken's Neck'

 

[randomradio]

I seriously think you have a poor knowledge about the geography of the region. The Northeast is linked with Mainland India through the narrow Siliguri Corridor which is susceptible to regular landslides ad landfalls. Do you even know for how many months Tripura remain severed with rest of India every year due to poor communication system? The transit for the Northeast is to ensure their access to our sea ports that will allow them to trade with the outside world. Meanwhile, access to the Bangladeshi market will make them dependent on Bangladesh.

So NE India has now been reduced to Tripura? You think a link there will create dependency?

The fact is the link between Tripura and BD is just 15Km and the people require Visas to travel. That ain't no structure for dependency. Otoh, Nepalese and Bhutanese can enter and leave India at will, making them dependent on India. In fact, Tripura is a power surplus state and supplies power to the rest of NE India. Tripura also supplies power to BD.

The rail link and road links through Siliguri are active throughout the year. What you are talking about is the poor connectivity through NH-8. But new rail lines are being built to alleviate the problem.

http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/the-new-northeast-expresses/

The rail link through BD for Tripura is merely a link for convenience, Tripura won't be dependent on BD for connectivity. The main cargo link will be the link from Indian territories.

 

[randomradio]

And do you know how many cantonments are scattered across Bangladesh? And why do you think China is supplying the sophisticated air defence systems? All of these will ensure Bangladesh remains neutral in a regional conflict.

They will all shut down during an Indo-China war.

That depends on the capability to pour money, India has never been a major investment source for Bangladesh. Even Pakistanis has more investments in Bangladesh than Indians.

Is that why your govt has setup SEZs that only cater to India?

Our navy is receiving training from several countries. That will ensure the know-how about the operational strategies and curriculum of different navies including India.

This new defence agreement will change all that.

 

[Roybot]

You think Assam is the only state in Northeast?

And FYI,
Geography's Curse: India's Vulnerable 'Chicken's Neck'

Do you think India is not working on improving the connectivity to the rest of the NE states?

 

[Homo Sapiens]

I seriously think you have a poor knowledge about the geography of the region. The Northeast is linked with Mainland India through the narrow Siliguri Corridor which is susceptible to regular landslides ad landfalls. Do you even know for how many months Tripura remain severed with rest of India every year due to poor communication system? The transit for the Northeast is to ensure their access to our sea ports that will allow them to trade with the outside world. Meanwhile, access to the Bangladeshi market will make them dependent on Bangladesh.

North east is connected with mainland India by a single paved road and a single track rail line in Siliguri corridor.In case of a possible Sino-indian war, a few strategic bombing over that road and rail track will isolate north east completely.In that sense it is worse than land locked independent country.No wonder,China overrun whole of Arunachal in 1962 easily.

 

[Species]

Okay this is an article written by an Indian, an example of Northeast's growing dependence on Bangladesh

With an estimated GDP of $230bn, the size of Bangladesh’s economy is almost equal to a first-tier state of India, while that of West Bengal is less than $150bn. This is why the northeast states are much more inclined to boost trade relations with Bangladesh, and the federal government backs them up as well.

With Assam demanding Rs1,000 crore from the Centre for an airport in Guwahati, it suggested that the state increase trade and communication with Dhaka so the Assamese can reach the East and South East Asian countries via Bangladesh and export goods to the countries. The northeast states, too, demand that more border haats (markets) be opened so they can strengthen their ties with Dhaka.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/banglad...017/04/06/indians-rethinking-ties-bangladesh/

 

[Roybot]

Okay this is an article written by an Indian, an example of Northeast's growing dependence on Bangladesh

With an estimated GDP of $230bn, the size of Bangladesh’s economy is almost equal to a first-tier state of India, while that of West Bengal is less than $150bn. This is why the northeast states are much more inclined to boost trade relations with Bangladesh, and the federal government backs them up as well.

With Assam demanding Rs1,000 crore from the Centre for an airport in Guwahati, it suggested that the state increase trade and communication with Dhaka so the Assamese can reach the East and South East Asian countries via Bangladesh and export goods to the countries. The northeast states, too, demand that more border haats (markets) be opened so they can strengthen their ties with Dhaka.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/banglad...017/04/06/indians-rethinking-ties-bangladesh/

And how is that a bad thing? Regional economic integration is a good for both countries.

 

[Species]

They will all shut down during an Indo-China war.



Is that why your govt has setup SEZs that only cater to India?



This new defence agreement will change all that.

Okay some more supa pawa syndrome. As the reality stands, our military cooperation with China is rising and will keep rising.

The moment India try to enter Bangladesh in an ongoing conflict, it will open another front which will obviously make India losing a chunk of its territory. It looks like Indian military establishment has realized that and they want to make Bangladesh a neutral party to any future conflict.

And how is that a bad thing? Regional economic integration is a good for both countries.

Who said, it's a bad thing? In fact, we all are proposing more and more integration between Bangladesh and Northeast and after the faciliation of the transit facilities, it will get a big boost.

 

[randomradio]

Okay some more supa pawa syndrome. As the reality stands, our military cooperation with China is rising and will keep rising.

The moment India try to enter Bangladesh in an ongoing conflict, it will open another front which will obviously make India losing a chunk of its territory. It looks like Indian military establishment has realized that and they want to make Bangladesh a neutral party to any future conflict.

It appears you have little to no knowledge about how the military functions. Not to mention overestimate the BD's military.

You are not going to be fighting for China anytime soon, more like never.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

@Species @randomradio
Geography's Curse: India's Vulnerable 'Chicken's Neck'
The Siliguri Corridor is a terrifyingly vulnerable artery in India’s geography.

By Ankit Panda
November 08, 2013


If you’ve been following The Pulse here at The Diplomat recently, you may have noted a few recent pieces (including one by yours truly) on India’s North-Eastern states. In any discussion of the governance problems or border issues in India’s North-East, a commonly mentioned word is “isolation.” The North-Eastern states are politically and geographically distant from New Delhi, and certain parts of the region share more in common culturally with Burma than they do with Punjab, or even West Bengal. A quirk of South Asian political geography has made it quite challenging for New Delhi to effectively integrate the North-Eastern states: the Siliguri Corridor.

Like most of the borders in South Asia, the Siliguri Corridor – known also as the “Chicken’s Neck”– is a cartographic relic of the British decolonization process. As the British Empire withdrew and partitioned British India along religious lines to create the modern states of India and Pakistan (which was then divided into East and West Pakistan), it drew the lines that lead to the Siliguri in an attempt to maintain contiguity between Bengal and Assam. The creation of East Pakistan (which became Bangladesh in 1971) along religious lines necessitated the awkward choke point in India’s contemporary geography. The Siliguri, at its slimmest point, puts less than a marathon’s distance between the Bangladeshi and Nepalese borders (14 miles).

All land trade between North-East India’s 40 million denizens and the rest of the country traverses the Siliguri owing to the lack of a free-trade agreement between India and Bangladesh. In 2002, Nepal, Bhutan, and Bangladesh joined India in discussing a proposal to create a free-trade agreement that would have facilitated the movement of goods across the Siliguri corridor, but no such agreement has been established. Further reinforcing the strategic precariousness of the region is the fact that a single-line railway is all that carries rail-based freight across the Siliguri. The harsh topography of the region makes the railway and roads subject to damage from frequent landslides and natural disaster; India’s North-East is known for its record-breaking levels of rainfall.

As if natural disasters were not enough to send the Siliguri to the top of the list of India’s strategic anxieties, the corridor has a complex and troubled political history. The situation has somewhat improved since the pre-1971 era, when icy relations with China in the north and East Pakistan meant that the region was a constant source of cross-border tension. Since the 1962 war with China, Indian strategists have envisioned a future scenario where "the Chinese may simply bypass and drop Special Forces to choke vulnerable Siliguri Corridor and cut off the Northeast.” China’s diplomacy with Bhutan gives reason to take this possibility seriously; in 1996, China began a concerted diplomatic effort to yield a border claim with Bhutan in exchange for the Doklam Plateau. The territorial swap with Bhutan would place in China’s hands the key to India’s choke point in the Siliguri.

India’s fortunes in the Siliguri were slightly ameliorated when the tiny monarchy of Sikkim – situated just north of the Siliguri, between Nepal, China, and Bhutan – merged with India in 1975 to become its second-smallest state. Sikkim had long been a subject of controversy between India and China. In the early 2000s, China refused to acknowledge Sikkim as part of India, maintaining that it was an independent state. The decision to do so was sparked by a controversy around the 17th Karmapa of the Black Hat branch of Tibetan Buddhism. Nevertheless, in 2003, China granted de facto recognition of Sikkim as a part of India by ceasing to list it as a separate state on its official documents and maps.

In acknowledgement of its importance to India’s national security, the state maintains a heavy patrol presence in the Siliguri region. The Indian Army, the Assam Rifles, the Border Security Force, and the West Bengal Police all patrol the region. India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) is known to closely observe Nepalese, Bhutanese, and Bangladeshi activity in the region as well. Among other issues, the Siliguri has been vulnerable to illegal Bangladeshi immigration into India. Certain analysts have also speculated that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has attempted to exploit the Siliguri via Nepal-based insurgents.

The Siliguri Corridor is a terrifyingly vulnerable artery in India’s geography. For Indians in the North-East, every look at a map is a sobering reminder of just how fragile their physical and economic tether to the rest of the country remains. Unlike so many of the problems India faces, the Siliguri Corridor’s vulnerability is a cruel endowment of political geography and essentially one it is stuck with. On the bright side, the current level of strategic vulnerability is far lower than it was in the past and can be further moderated with the establishment of a free-trade agreement between the states bordering the Siliguri.
http://thediplomat.com/2013/11/geographys-curse-indias-vulnerable-chickens-neck/

 

[Species]

It appears you have little to no knowledge about how the military functions. Not to mention overestimate the BD's military.

You are not going to be fighting for China anytime soon, more like never.

Lol, who said we will be fighting for China?

But yes, our military cooperation with China will keep increasing, meanwhile we will be receiving PL10E and SD10A along with J10Bs, that will allow us to use the Chinese navigation satellites for guided missiles.

@Species @randomradio
Geography's Curse: India's Vulnerable 'Chicken's Neck'
The Siliguri Corridor is a terrifyingly vulnerable artery in India’s geography.

By Ankit Panda
November 08, 2013


If you’ve been following The Pulse here at The Diplomat recently, you may have noted a few recent pieces (including one by yours truly) on India’s North-Eastern states. In any discussion of the governance problems or border issues in India’s North-East, a commonly mentioned word is “isolation.” The North-Eastern states are politically and geographically distant from New Delhi, and certain parts of the region share more in common culturally with Burma than they do with Punjab, or even West Bengal. A quirk of South Asian political geography has made it quite challenging for New Delhi to effectively integrate the North-Eastern states: the Siliguri Corridor.

Like most of the borders in South Asia, the Siliguri Corridor – known also as the “Chicken’s Neck”– is a cartographic relic of the British decolonization process. As the British Empire withdrew and partitioned British India along religious lines to create the modern states of India and Pakistan (which was then divided into East and West Pakistan), it drew the lines that lead to the Siliguri in an attempt to maintain contiguity between Bengal and Assam. The creation of East Pakistan (which became Bangladesh in 1971) along religious lines necessitated the awkward choke point in India’s contemporary geography. The Siliguri, at its slimmest point, puts less than a marathon’s distance between the Bangladeshi and Nepalese borders (14 miles).

All land trade between North-East India’s 40 million denizens and the rest of the country traverses the Siliguri owing to the lack of a free-trade agreement between India and Bangladesh. In 2002, Nepal, Bhutan, and Bangladesh joined India in discussing a proposal to create a free-trade agreement that would have facilitated the movement of goods across the Siliguri corridor, but no such agreement has been established. Further reinforcing the strategic precariousness of the region is the fact that a single-line railway is all that carries rail-based freight across the Siliguri. The harsh topography of the region makes the railway and roads subject to damage from frequent landslides and natural disaster; India’s North-East is known for its record-breaking levels of rainfall.

As if natural disasters were not enough to send the Siliguri to the top of the list of India’s strategic anxieties, the corridor has a complex and troubled political history. The situation has somewhat improved since the pre-1971 era, when icy relations with China in the north and East Pakistan meant that the region was a constant source of cross-border tension. Since the 1962 war with China, Indian strategists have envisioned a future scenario where "the Chinese may simply bypass and drop Special Forces to choke vulnerable Siliguri Corridor and cut off the Northeast.” China’s diplomacy with Bhutan gives reason to take this possibility seriously; in 1996, China began a concerted diplomatic effort to yield a border claim with Bhutan in exchange for the Doklam Plateau. The territorial swap with Bhutan would place in China’s hands the key to India’s choke point in the Siliguri.

India’s fortunes in the Siliguri were slightly ameliorated when the tiny monarchy of Sikkim – situated just north of the Siliguri, between Nepal, China, and Bhutan – merged with India in 1975 to become its second-smallest state. Sikkim had long been a subject of controversy between India and China. In the early 2000s, China refused to acknowledge Sikkim as part of India, maintaining that it was an independent state. The decision to do so was sparked by a controversy around the 17th Karmapa of the Black Hat branch of Tibetan Buddhism. Nevertheless, in 2003, China granted de facto recognition of Sikkim as a part of India by ceasing to list it as a separate state on its official documents and maps.

In acknowledgement of its importance to India’s national security, the state maintains a heavy patrol presence in the Siliguri region. The Indian Army, the Assam Rifles, the Border Security Force, and the West Bengal Police all patrol the region. India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) is known to closely observe Nepalese, Bhutanese, and Bangladeshi activity in the region as well. Among other issues, the Siliguri has been vulnerable to illegal Bangladeshi immigration into India. Certain analysts have also speculated that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has attempted to exploit the Siliguri via Nepal-based insurgents.

The Siliguri Corridor is a terrifyingly vulnerable artery in India’s geography. For Indians in the North-East, every look at a map is a sobering reminder of just how fragile their physical and economic tether to the rest of the country remains. Unlike so many of the problems India faces, the Siliguri Corridor’s vulnerability is a cruel endowment of political geography and essentially one it is stuck with. On the bright side, the current level of strategic vulnerability is far lower than it was in the past and can be further moderated with the establishment of a free-trade agreement between the states bordering the Siliguri.
http://thediplomat.com/2013/11/geographys-curse-indias-vulnerable-chickens-neck/

There are enough articles on how the Northeast is becoming more and more dependent on Bangladesh due to the geographical factor. I don't know why it's hurting the egos of certain Indians. Better integration will lead to mutual economic growth.