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IIT-Delhi workshop looks for medical miracle in cow urine, dung

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Stupid argument. Your mother might have also worked in a respectable profession to bring salary to raise you and so must have your father. Will you like to compare their jobs with the ones you have just mentioned? Is profession of cattle rearing and selling them for meat comparable to whatever you are comparing with? I do not think it is.

I do not care what you "think", I am talking about using the same principles for both professions in the post.

your principle is to make money by any means necessary, devoid of ethics and morals. So my examples are perfectly valid.


Do you have any data to support that Hindus do not eat meat or eat it very rarely? How does miltch animals more worthy of being saved then say birds who lay eggs? "Social contract with domesticated animals" -- and what happens when they stop producing milk, also what happens to male cattles? Ever wondered? I guess not. And how does this apply to Christians? or Sikhs? or Muslims?

People who do not eat meat and fish are given higher social status. Then how come all the warriors were meat eating Kshtriyas? Or are you implying that Kshtriya are not worthy of higher social status. Your argument is well, BULLSHIT.

1. chicken lays eggs irrespective of people eating them. These eggs are unfertilised and hens continue to lay them during each reproductive cycle.

2. Male cattle i.e Bulls are castrated and are used as OX for farming.

3. Sikhs have the same value system and Dharma against cow slaughter since they are part of the Hindu faith.

4. What is the point of asking me how Hindu value system apply to Muslims or christians ? That is for you to tell me.

5. Kshatriya were lower than Brahmins in hindu social order. Even though kshatriyas had a tougher job and had access to real power and wealth. Funny that you do not know this simple fact that is known to pretty much most Indians.


No compulsion of crackers in Diwali and yet it happens unabated and grows every year! If all the courts pass a law banning crackers in Diwali you will see mobs of Hindus crying foul.

So ? What has that anything to do with this debate ?

You have still not answered me about one thing. Do you consider it barbaric to eat meat or do you consider barbaric to offer cattle for sacrifice? Because even if Muslims do not sacrifice goats, owing to 80% majority of Hindus, a lot of them are actually 'lower social status as you like to call them' will 'occasionally' eat meat and will still lead to a huge number of slaughter. It will more or less shift the date of slaughter a bit thats it. And lets not even talk about Christians or Sikhs.


It is barbaric and uncivilised to kill or eat domesticated milch animals.

No Hindu worth his salt will either kill or eat a milch animal.

Fish and chicken are not milch animals. Neither are sheep or goat. Those hindu who drink goat milk, certainly do not eat goats. Those who eat them continue to be aware of practising adharma, the same way one one does adharma by lying or paying a bribe or cheating etc. No one claimed Hindus are free of any sins. We only claim to be aware of dharma, not ignorant of dharma.

International statics on meat consumption will show that per capita consumption of meat is incredibly low in India. This has been posted in pdf multiple times. You can dig it up.

I have already spoken about sikhs.


As far as researching is concerned, ethics etc are the last priority there. It is efficacy of research which is most important. You can prepare a Gita/Veda compliant thesis on Bovine-Aerodynamics with no harm done to holy-bovines but it won't change one fact -- Cows will still not fly.

Practice of Ethics and Morality is the very definition of civilised behaviour :lol: and the foundation of any civilisation.

By claiming them irreverent, you have only proved what was obvious to most Hindus.

Practice of ethics and morality are not supposed to make a cow fly. Maybe that is your definition and that is not surprising either.

My point is simple: We know that matter is not composed of five elements so it is stupid to analyse any thing based on these obsolete models. We also know the laws behind dosage, effect and side effects when it comes to medicine. Then what is the point of doing all this worthless research. We know the chemical composition of cow's or rather any animal's urine. Why then we need to take cows urine fresh off the cow to do all of this bullshit research. And why only cow's urine? Why not donkey's?

The known universe is not composed of three or four dimensions either. Yet we consistently use three dimensions to learn and talk about physics. Sometimes the fourth dimension time for quantum physics.

No model is obsolete as long as it serves to explain and expand our understanding of any knowledge stream.

Entire practice of Homeopathy is based on unproven laws of dosage, effects and side effects. Yet it continues to be practised and continuous to make human life better.

What is the need to artificially create cow urine or its components when it is readily available in India ? :lol: What you say defies logic and even economics.

Finally, Not only cow but even donkey and goat urine is used in Ayurveda. But unless you are rearing donkey for its milk and consuming it , not much point in spending time and money on researching its urine, is there ?

Cows have been with us for more than 10,000 years. We have a symbiotic relationship with them. They questions is not why research them, the question is why not research them.

You are free to research donkey urine or camel urine too.
 
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If this is what they study at "professional" level, wonder what are they taught at school?



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A man shifting cows to another shelter at Gopal Gaosadan Harveli in New Delhi. (Raj K Raj/HT PHOTO)
Scientists and medical experts floated 40 proposals, including setting up a “gau vigyan (cow science) university” and researching the “anti-cancer” properties of cow urine, at a workshop organised by the Indian Institute of Technology-Delhi on Sunday.

The programme was aimed at instituting a national project to validate the health benefits of Panchgavya – a concoction prepared with cow urine, dung, milk, curd and ghee.

Professor VK Vijay, programme coordinator and head of the institute’s centre for rural development, said some of these projects will be approved by a steering committee.

Following that, they could receive funds from various government agencies such as the ministry of science and technology and the Indian Council of Medical Research.

Around 200 scientists, experts and students gathered to discuss the varied ways in which Panchgavya and related products can be used for rural development, medicinal purposes and food manufacture.

Professor RS Chauhan, who teaches pathology at the College of Veterinary and Animal Sciences in Uttarakhand, put forth a proposal to study the possible role of cow urine in enhancing immunity and treating cancer. “My research on the urine of four indigenous cattle breeds has revealed that it enhances immunity and kills cancer cells. However, we are yet to test its effects on humans,” he said.

Hemant Purohit, an expert from the National Environmental Engineering Research Institute at Pune, said “a combination of ancient knowledge and modern science” will be taught at the gau vigyan university.

Union science and technology minister Harsh Vardhan said although Indians have a soft spot for cows --- an animal that has unwittingly found itself surrounded by controversies in the last two years, there was a need to beyond religious sentiments and look at the benefits of Panchgavya from a scientific angle. “We need to focus on patenting our research and getting it published in reputed journals,” he added.

The workshop – titled ‘Scientific validation and research on Panchgavya’ – was backed by the Unnat Bharat Abhiyaan, a flagship scheme of the HRD and science and technology ministries.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-urine-dung/story-9SNkBj0SDg8pL6fkSqHqVO.html
 
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Honestly, that would have been better utilization of funds than cow-urine-powered-cancer-cure.

Thankfully we have bigger and better minds than yours that guide our policy and future.

Hope you do not choke on your own bile while reading this article.

https://www.thequint.com/life/2015/12/12/this-hospital-claims-to-cure-cancer-with-the-help-of-cows

Here’s a cow story you haven’t heard yet.

While the country has just started to move on from a very lengthy and futile debate on cows and how they fare vis a vis people of various communities, a hospital in Gujarat has done something pretty incredible.

It has gone ahead and discovered invaluable use of the cow’s urine, milk and other substances in the treatment of cancer!

That’s right – cowpathy (a newly-coined term) and ‘panchgavya’, the medicine that is prepared using five substances obtained from cows – is being practised and administered respectively, at the Sheth RM Dhariwal Cancer Hospital at Valsad.

The novel practice has seen a steady increase in the number of patients over the years – and why ever not? Treatments here are priced at as low as Re 1 a day!

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Where it all Began

Started under the aegis of Prabhav Hem Kamdhenu GiriVihar Trust, the unique hospital runs entirely on donations of Jain business families.

In fact, a Jain monk – Acharya Sri Vijay Hemprabha Surishwar Ji – guided the trust to first establish a gaushala, a panjrapole (animal shelter that houses 1500 rescued animals) and a modern hospital in Palitana (one of the biggest pilgrimages of Jainism).

Later, when the milk from the cows in the gaushala started serving close to 1000 temples around Palitana itself, the trust brought in Ayurveda experts to study and research the medicinal value of the substances obtained from a cow – namely its milk, urine, dung, curd and ghee. That is how the panchgavya, which is a combination of all five things, came into existence.
The trust built the hospital in Valsad and dedicated itself to treating cancer using panchgavya on patients. The medicine is applied as a paste on patients.

How Does the ‘Cow Medicine’ Work?

How does this work though? The hospital explains:

Cancer cells don’t multiply because panchgavya is an eco-friendly substance. It helps flush out the cancerous toxins through motions.

Senior staff member, Sheth RM Dhariwal Cancer Hospital

There are many who have survived cancer through cowpathy.

Vidya Patel, a 50-year-old woman from Uttar Pradesh, came with stage 1 mouth cancer, caused by her gutkha habit.
I tried this line of treatment because, unlike chemotherapy, this has no side effects. Fortunately, the entire routine at the hospital not only helped me survive cancer but strengthened me mentally as a person. Now I am better prepared to battle any disease.

- Vidya Patel, cancer survivor


The 600 cows from the gaushala, providing the said medicines aren’t Jersey cows or of the Shankara type; they are sturdy desis, who are fed a healthy diet along with ayurvedic herbs like ashwagandha.

“These are no ordinary cows, they are helping treat millions. That is why feeding them good food is imperative,” announces Vighn Prabh Vijay ji Maharaj, a Jain monk who visits the hospital frequently to share spiritual discourses with patients.

How is the Cancer Actually Treated?

The therapy is simple;

Any patient, who checks in, is kept for 11 days, during which no meat is given and no tobacco, gutkha or addictions are allowed.
The panchgavya is given in regulated doses by the doctors.

Daily walks, healthy vegetarian breakfast, lunch and dinner along with spiritual discourse or meditation are part of the patient’s routine.

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Manitesh Sharma vouches for the treatment.

When he developed sores all over his body, nobody in his home town in Uttar Pradesh had a cure to the malady. He was finally taken to Madras, where he was given chemotherapy. Soon, the 25-year-old recovered and returned home. But later, he caught a cold that refused to heal. After another round of tests, it was declared that he had cancer.
Struck by the misfortune, the family was ready to try anything to save him – when they came across this hospital.

I had come with very little expectations. But the treatment worked. I have recovered from cancer but to prevent a relapse, I now live an addiction-free life.

- Manitesh Sharma, cancer survivor



All For Re 1

The hospital is extremely pocket-friendly – especially for those who are not so privileged. For medicine, food and accommodation, a patient is charged Re 1 a day.

The person who accompanies the patient has to pay Re1 for each meal though.

The place gets 2,400 to 3,600 patients a year and spends close to Rs 5 crore annually. Everything is done through donations.
Cancer is a disease that alters a person psychologically as well as physically. Our line of treatment not only reduces the pain but also frees the mind of stress regarding the disease. Half the job is done by the peaceful routine and surroundings itself.
Senior staff member, Sheth RM Dhariwal Cancer Hospital

Perhaps the most important detail?

People of all communities are welcome at the health centre, adds the staff member.
 
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IIT-Delhi workshop looks for medical miracle in cow urine, dung
INDIA Updated: Dec 19, 2016 01:36 IST
Heena Kausar, New Delhi, Hindustan Times
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A man shifting cows to another shelter at Gopal Gaosadan Harveli in New Delhi. (Raj K Raj/HT PHOTO)
Scientists and medical experts floated 40 proposals, including setting up a “gau vigyan (cow science) university” and researching the “anti-cancer” properties of cow urine, at a workshop organised by the Indian Institute of Technology-Delhi on Sunday.

The programme was aimed at instituting a national project to validate the health benefits of Panchgavya – a concoction prepared with cow urine, dung, milk, curd and ghee.

Professor VK Vijay, programme coordinator and head of the institute’s centre for rural development, said some of these projects will be approved by a steering committee.

Following that, they could receive funds from various government agencies such as the ministry of science and technology and the Indian Council of Medical Research.

Around 200 scientists, experts and students gathered to discuss the varied ways in which Panchgavya and related products can be used for rural development, medicinal purposes and food manufacture.

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Professor RS Chauhan, who teaches pathology at the College of Veterinary and Animal Sciences in Uttarakhand, put forth a proposal to study the possible role of cow urine in enhancing immunity and treating cancer. “My research on the urine of four indigenous cattle breeds has revealed that it enhances immunity and kills cancer cells. However, we are yet to test its effects on humans,” he said.

Hemant Purohit, an expert from the National Environmental Engineering Research Institute at Pune, said “a combination of ancient knowledge and modern science” will be taught at the gau vigyan university.

Union science and technology minister Harsh Vardhan said although Indians have a soft spot for cows --- an animal that has unwittingly found itself surrounded by controversies in the last two years, there was a need to beyond religious sentiments and look at the benefits of Panchgavya from a scientific angle. “We need to focus on patenting our research and getting it published in reputed journals,” he added.

The workshop – titled ‘Scientific validation and research on Panchgavya’ – was backed by the Unnat Bharat Abhiyaan, a flagship scheme of the HRD and science and technology ministries.
 
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gopal-gaosadan-harveli_ec1ffd80-c554-11e6-913d-826c0833a15d.jpg

A man shifting cows to another shelter at Gopal Gaosadan Harveli in New Delhi. (Raj K Raj/HT PHOTO)
Scientists and medical experts floated 40 proposals, including setting up a “gau vigyan (cow science) university” and researching the “anti-cancer” properties of cow urine, at a workshop organised by the Indian Institute of Technology-Delhi on Sunday.

The programme was aimed at instituting a national project to validate the health benefits of Panchgavya – a concoction prepared with cow urine, dung, milk, curd and ghee.

Professor VK Vijay, programme coordinator and head of the institute’s centre for rural development, said some of these projects will be approved by a steering committee.

Following that, they could receive funds from various government agencies such as the ministry of science and technology and the Indian Council of Medical Research.

Around 200 scientists, experts and students gathered to discuss the varied ways in which Panchgavya and related products can be used for rural development, medicinal purposes and food manufacture.

Professor RS Chauhan, who teaches pathology at the College of Veterinary and Animal Sciences in Uttarakhand, put forth a proposal to study the possible role of cow urine in enhancing immunity and treating cancer. “My research on the urine of four indigenous cattle breeds has revealed that it enhances immunity and kills cancer cells. However, we are yet to test its effects on humans,” he said.

Hemant Purohit, an expert from the National Environmental Engineering Research Institute at Pune, said “a combination of ancient knowledge and modern science” will be taught at the gau vigyan university.

Union science and technology minister Harsh Vardhan said although Indians have a soft spot for cows --- an animal that has unwittingly found itself surrounded by controversies in the last two years, there was a need to beyond religious sentiments and look at the benefits of Panchgavya from a scientific angle. “We need to focus on patenting our research and getting it published in reputed journals,” he added.

The workshop – titled ‘Scientific validation and research on Panchgavya’ – was backed by the Unnat Bharat Abhiyaan, a flagship scheme of the HRD and science and technology ministries.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-urine-dung/story-9SNkBj0SDg8pL6fkSqHqVO.html


They're also scanning the Hadith for benefits of camel urine.I believe they've got a no of Bedouin camel herders down for the purpose .The subject for such experiments are restricted to Pakistanis .You may want to volunteer.
 
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I do not know which is more stupid. Sacrificing BLACK goat before flying aircraft or researching miracles in cow dung and urine.

Seriously this is BULLSHIT!
Indian airforce worshiping newly inducted plane is the most stupid thing.
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and indian airline doing this is most stupid too.
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Indian airforce worshiping newly inducted plane is the most stupid thing.
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and indian airline doing this is most stupid too.
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Its called Ganapathi homam. A prayer to ensure smooth and peaceful operations.


Or do you prefer "keeping your Fingers Crossed" ? or "toasting" with alcohol or "breaking a bottle of champagne".

Or is your butt hurt specific to Hinduism and Hindus ?
 
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Its called Ganapathi homam. A prayer to ensure smooth and peaceful operations.


Or do you prefer "keeping your Fingers Crossed" ? or "toasting" with alcohol or "breaking a bottle of champagne".

Or is your butt hurt specific to Hinduism and Hindus ?
That's what the goat sacrifice was for.
Infact once BBC reported that in the past their was a PIA plane which was always ill. They treated it but it became ill again. Later they changed it's serial number and sacrificed a goat. and the same plane became fit and then retired with honor from service.
and about butt hurt. I was answering someone who had same problem with Muslims and Islam. goat slaughter in front of plane.
 
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