IIT-Delhi workshop looks for medical miracle in cow urine, dung

[Reichsmarschall]

LOL..... this is hilarious.


Din't you just say that you have a "superiority complex" and hence use Arabic names ?


By your own admission your inferiority complex comes from using Arabic Names.

we use Arabic names which have definite meaning not their Surnames

 

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we use Arabic names which have definite meaning not their Surnames

I don't need your justification or rationalisation because I don't care.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy in you and your foolish attempt at trolling that ended up with eggs on your face.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

I don't need your justification or rationalisation because I don't care.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy in you and your foolish attempt at trolling that ended up with eggs on your face.

 

[Jugger]

Cow urine or infact any urine is good for soothing jellyfish sting.

 

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Cow urine or infact any urine is good for soothing jellyfish sting.

In Ayurveda Cow urine is used for various aliments.

It Increases Vata and Pitta, due to its bitter and pungent principles. (restores balance in the body). This is because it contains nitrogen, sulphur, phosphate, sodium, manganese, carbolic acid, iron, silicon, chlorine, magnesium, melci, citric, titric, succenic, calcium salts, vitamin a, b, c, d, e, minerals, lactose, enzymes, creatinine, hormones and gold acids.

It works as a laxative and a toxin-neutralizing agent.

It is used to treat abdominal colic pain, bloating, constipation, indigestion.

It is used to kill intestinal worms.

It is used to sooth the skin and reduce itching and rashes.

It acts as natural detoxification formula.

It is used in the treatment of Vitiligo (leukoderma) by adding it with Avalgujabijadi churnam (powder), made a paste and applied over the skin patches.

It is also used in the intitial treatment of liver disorder.

Its used in the treatment of Anemia.

It can cure nail fungus in 1 day.

 

[Shajida Khan]

Thankfully most of India continue to believe in Ayurveda and not Jihad


What are your views on murdering a goat on Eid ? Does all that blood make your "god" happy ?

First how does Jihad factor into this stupidity?

Ayurveda's basic understanding of human body is flawed. Ayurveda to medical science is same as alchemy to chemistry. Both are proto-science. There can still be wisdom based on experience in these ancient texts and they should be gleaned for that. Chinese did the same for discovering a noval cure for Malaria by looking into experiencial wisdom in their ancient treaties on medicine, infact they bagged a nobel prize for that : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_Youyou. It is this kind of systematic effort to take advantage of ancient wisdom which will give us results not the kind of finding cure for cancer using cow dung and urine will help. You cure diseases, you do not cure diseases by assuming that a certain substance will work in that.

Cattle are reared and raised for their meat all over the world. Infact in India, they are also raised for meat. Goats, Chicken, Cows, Pigs etc. They are ultimately slaughtered for their meat, one way or the other. How come slaughtering them on a particular day makes it more shall we say 'objectionable'? I want to understand what you want my views on: slaughtering the cattle for meat or slaughtering them on a particular day?

For the former, I guess the basic reality is that we need to eat and almost all religion in India eat meat including Hindu majority which constitute 80%+ in India. If you take issue with this then comeback when all Hindus/Sikhs/Christians have given up eating meat.

If you have issue with slaughtering cattle as sacrifice on Eid al-Adha, then how about stop celebrating Diwali with all the pollution caused during that? Does all the sulphur di oxide make your 'Gods' happy? If you really want to understand the meaning behind Eid Al-Adha, you can find it in wikipedia. The practical side of it is that it helps many poor cattle rearers to earn money and the meat of sacrifice is also distributed among poor and needy.

 

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Cattle are reared and raised for their meat all over the world. Infact in India, they are also raised for meat. Goats, Chicken, Cows, Pigs etc. They are ultimately slaughtered for their meat, one way or the other. How come slaughtering them on a particular day makes it more shall we say 'objectionable'? I want to understand what you want my views on: slaughtering the cattle for meat or slaughtering them on a particular day?

For the former, I guess the basic reality is that we need to eat and almost all religion in India eat meat including Hindu majority which constitute 80%+ in India. If you take issue with this then comeback when all Hindus/Sikhs/Christians have given up eating meat.

If you have issue with slaughtering cattle as sacrifice on Eid al-Adha, then how about stop celebrating Diwali with all the pollution caused during that? Does all the sulphur di oxide make your 'Gods' happy? If you really want to understand the meaning behind Eid Al-Adha, you can find it in wikipedia. The practical side of it is that it helps many poor cattle rearers to earn money and the meat of sacrifice is also distributed among poor and needy.

By the same logic you should promote prostitution and pimping since it will help poor people to earn money.

How about using the same logic to promote and sell drugs ? how about child pornography ? How about commercial and organised begging ? All those should be allowed as per you logic of helping the poor make money.


Hindus by and large do not eat meat. Those who do, do so in rare occasions. The number of Hindus who eat meat regularly will be in minority.

Even then the meat is never of milch animals.


Milch animals are not reared in India for their meat. They are reared for their milk and in return they are protected. It is part of the Hindu value system, also known as Dharma. In modern lexicon you can call it our "social contract with domesticated animals".


Even between all this, rearing of animals for consumption, killing them for food and even Fishing is considered sinful in Hindu value system. That is why people who do these professions are not given any high social status. People who do not eat these are given higher social status and respect in Hindu society.


There is no compulsion for crackers in Diwali. its a modern day practice. Diwali is a festival of Light (to commemorate victory of good over evil. light over darkness) , not a festival of noise and smoke.



However all this is irrelevant, the important point being that researching value of cow urine is FAR FAR FAR more Ethical, Moral and Civilised than barbaric murder of an innocent domesticated milch animal for its flesh and celebrating that murder.

I was questioning your hypocrisy and the audacity to question hindu values while shameless promoting your own.

 

[RealNapster]

Bhai koi achaar do in ko nasha utary inka jo bagher piye hi charha hua hai..

And Yes Cow dung is really useful.. We Pakistani also use it for very beneficial purpose...
Which is Dung Cakes (Paathiyan)

Here they are...

@Mentee @RealNapster @Hell hound Idhar dekho Aik aur chuss...

Aap Mahaan ho...

BTW we call it "Sapyaaki " in Pashto.

barri Information hai

Baaji khud v lagati hay kabhe kabhe ..

 

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First how does Jihad factor into this stupidity?

Ayurveda's basic understanding of human body is flawed. Ayurveda to medical science is same as alchemy to chemistry. Both are proto-science. There can still be wisdom based on experience in these ancient texts and they should be gleaned for that. Chinese did the same for discovering a noval cure for Malaria by looking into experiencial wisdom in their ancient treaties on medicine, infact they bagged a nobel prize for that : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_Youyou. It is this kind of systematic effort to take advantage of ancient wisdom which will give us results not the kind of finding cure for cancer using cow dung and urine will help. You cure diseases, you do not cure diseases by assuming that a certain substance will work in that.

Since you added this later, let me reply to this too.

Jihad is part of your value system and culture, using cow urine for medicine is part Hindu civilisation.

Every knowledge we claim to "know" is flawed.

Newtons' laws and theory was wrong. Einsteins theories are wrong too ...... we just don't know the right one's yet. We continuesly seek new laws and knowledge to replace and modify our old ones.

Even knowledge of modern medicine and practices are flawed. It just happens to serve our needs and purpose for now. Till a better method comes long.

Ayurveda is no more a proto-science than Newtonian physics is a proto-science.


You just ridiculed research on cow urine ....... and now you have turned a complete 180 degrees and are now claiming there should be research on them.


Make up you mind first. Then we can talk.

 

[Shajida Khan]

By the same logic you should promote prostitution and pimping since it will help poor people to earn money.

How about using the same logic to promote and sell drugs ? how about child pornography ? How about commercial and organised begging ? All those should be allowed as per you logic of helping the poor make money.

Stupid argument. Your mother might have also worked in a respectable profession to bring salary to raise you and so must have your father. Will you like to compare their jobs with the ones you have just mentioned? Is profession of cattle rearing and selling them for meat comparable to whatever you are comparing with? I do not think it is.

Hindus by and large do not eat meat. Those who do, do so in rare occasions. The number of Hindus who eat meat regularly will be in minority.

Even then the meat is never of milch animals.


Milch animals are not reared in India for their meat. They are reared for their milk and in return they are protected. It is part of the Hindu value system, also known as Dharma. In modern lexicon you can call it our "social contract with domesticated animals".


Even between all this, rearing of animals for consumption, killing them for food and even Fishing is considered sinful in Hindu value system. That is why people who do these professions are not given any high social status. People who do not eat these are given higher social status and respect in Hindu society.

Do you have any data to support that Hindus do not eat meat or eat it very rarely? How does miltch animals more worthy of being saved then say birds who lay eggs? "Social contract with domesticated animals" -- and what happens when they stop producing milk, also what happens to male cattles? Ever wondered? I guess not. And how does this apply to Christians? or Sikhs? or Muslims?

People who do not eat meat and fish are given higher social status. Then how come all the warriors were meat eating Kshtriyas? Or are you implying that Kshtriya are not worthy of higher social status. Your argument is well, BULLSHIT.

There is no compulsion for crackers in Diwali. its a modern day practice. Diwali is a festival of Light (to commemorate victory of good over evil. light over darkness) , not a festival of noise and smoke.

No compulsion of crackers in Diwali and yet it happens unabated and grows every year! If all the courts pass a law banning crackers in Diwali you will see mobs of Hindus crying foul.

However all this is irrelevant, the important point being that researching value of cow urine is FAR FAR FAR more Ethical, Moral and Civilised than barbaric murder of an innocent domesticated milch animal for its flesh and celebrating that murder.

I was questioning your hypocrisy and the audacity to question hindu values while shameless promoting your own.

You have still not answered me about one thing. Do you consider it barbaric to eat meat or do you consider barbaric to offer cattle for sacrifice? Because even if Muslims do not sacrifice goats, owing to 80% majority of Hindus, a lot of them are actually 'lower social status as you like to call them' will 'occasionally' eat meat and will still lead to a huge number of slaughter. It will more or less shift the date of slaughter a bit thats it. And lets not even talk about Christians or Sikhs.

As far as researching is concerned, ethics etc are the last priority there. It is efficacy of research which is most important. You can prepare a Gita/Veda compliant thesis on Bovine-Aerodynamics with no harm done to holy-bovines but it won't change one fact -- Cows will still not fly.

Since you added this later, let me reply to this too.

Jihad is part of your value system and culture, using cow urine for medicine is part Hindu civilisation.

Every knowledge we claim to "know" is flawed.

Newtons' laws and theory was wrong. Einsteins theories are wrong too ...... we just don't know the right one's yet. We continuesly seek new laws and knowledge to replace and modify our old ones.

Even knowledge of modern medicine and practices are flawed. It just happens to serve our needs and purpose for now. Till a better method comes long.

Ayurveda is no more a proto-science than Newtonian physics is a proto-science.


You just ridiculed research on cow urine ....... and now you have turned a complete 180 degrees and are now claiming there should be research on them.


Make up you mind first. Then we can talk.

My point is simple: We know that matter is not composed of five elements so it is stupid to analyse any thing based on these obsolete models. We also know the laws behind dosage, effect and side effects when it comes to medicine. Then what is the point of doing all this worthless research. We know the chemical composition of cow's or rather any animal's urine. Why then we need to take cows urine fresh off the cow to do all of this bullshit research. And why only cow's urine? Why not donkey's?

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Baaji khud v lagati hay kabhe kabhe

@Chauvinist mjhe tou pehle hi shak tha

 

[RealNapster]

@Chauvinist mjhe tou pehle hi shak tha

Achaar ka thaikaa mere paas he..

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Achaar ka thaikaa mere paas he..

Appa ko yes kro phir

 

[RealNapster]

Appa ko yes kro phir

Tender already mujhy mil chuka hay...

 

[Chauvinist]

Baaji khud v lagati hay kabhe kabhe ..

Han lgati hun a jao peeni hai to..

@Chauvinist mjhe tou pehle hi shak tha

Shak kya byta Yaqeenan aysa hi hai... ye apna @RealNapster hi to bna bna dyta hai mje..