IISc, IIT-Bombay in Top 30 as Indian Universities Move Up in Global Rankings

[Han Patriot]

Mate...You don't sound like a Chinese.....using words bhai, using z instead of s, picking on Hindus of India etc etc.... Besides, the way your counter-arguments are laced with bragging, black humour and insulting your opponent...it just not like a Chinese.

Shù qǐyòu qí bìng tíngzhǐ wèizào.

Jhungary....I AM NOT CHINESE AGAIN!

 

[Dubious]

@Han Patriot watch your language and stop derailing / trolling or I will thread ban you!

 

[Jackdaws]

What exactly stops your universities from teaching in English if its so advantageous?

I met a Chinese student with an Honors Degree in English in Europe. Couldn't speak a word of English. Go figure.

 

[HariPrasad]

I met a Chinese student with an Honors Degree in English in Europe. Couldn't speak a word of English. Go figure.

This may be true for Science , math, Accountancy and other subjects as well.

 

[Nilgiri]

The truth is that China is a shadow civilization of India and was influenced by India for millenniums. Neither China nor any other country can compete with India is educations. We have seen 50% rise in top educational institutions of the world in just one year. Within next 2 decades, we shall have more than 50% of world's top education institutions. For us, things have taken a bit long to be on track whether it is economy or educational institutions. Knowledge is highest virtue in our culture. We shall excel and excel. China will remain a mediocre country so far as education is concern.

To beat Chinese trolls, you don't have to become like them dude.

Its not just the official polity thats needed, a complete ecosystem wherein our (any) problems are dealt with by our educational institutions will improve our rankings and numbers exponentially.

It needs to start at primary level. Too much potential is laid to waste, just look at recent ASER report, still so terrible.

We are higher than 'Jewish American'? I am kinda proud. These Indians are the top 1% I was talking about, the elites of India. A majotiry of them are of higher caste, these Iranian hybrids created Hinduism to control the other 99%.

No the Indians come from a wide spectrum of backgrounds and castes. You don't know what you are talking about....as usual.

 

[fitpOsitive]

But if you ever tried to cross your limits, your will face the same consequences as China is facing today....keep in mind, for them, you are nothing but brown ape.
We Asians better think about Asia, rather than moving to other countries.

 

[HariPrasad]

To beat Chinese trolls, you don't have to become like them dude.

The difference between what they write and what I write is this. What I have written is 100, pc truth. I can prove each and every word I have written. Tell me what do you want me to prove.

 

[Nilgiri]

The difference between what they write and what I write is this. What I have written is 100, pc truth. I can prove each and every word I have written. Tell me what do you want me to prove.

Lets start with "China will remain a mediocre country in education". That is nonsense thing to say and project as certainty.

 

[HariPrasad]

Lets start with "China will remain a mediocre country in education". That is nonsense thing to say and project as certainty.

This is a study/observations by UK university. It states that chines students are very weak so far as higher education is concern. There is an article on PDF itself. You can find it. Check the education level of Indian vs Chinese diaspora anywhere outside these two countries. You will get your answer. Chinese are not known for having higher education anywhere like Indians.

 

[Nilgiri]

This is a study/observations by UK university. It states that chines students are very weak so far as higher education is concern. There is an article on PDF itself. You can find it. Check the education level of Indian vs Chinese diaspora anywhere outside these two countries. You will get your answer. Chinese are not known for having higher education anywhere like Indians.

Yeah well, a good third of my knowledge on general engg + aerospace materials that I use for my job...was first taught to me by Chinese lady prof who initially graduated from Tsinghua (she is one of the top 10 experts in her research field in Canada I would say)... so I personally know it to not be the case. Statistics are often garbage on a lot of these "education things"...if you dismiss PISA validity, you cannot simply say something else is now core valid suddenly.

Chinese americans have been around in US for longer in larger numbers (if you know about say the US railroad industry in 19th century for example)... than Indian-Americans have, so of course their prevalence rates will have normalised a bit more towards the American average with time...compared to say more recent elite immigration from India.

@rott @GeraltofRivia @Chinese-Dragon @long_

 

[HariPrasad]

Yeah well, a good third of my knowledge on general engg + aerospace materials that I use for my job...was first taught to me by Chinese lady prof who initially graduated from Tsinghua (she is one of the top 10 experts in her research field in Canada I would say)... so I personally know it to not be the case. Statistics are often garbage on a lot of these "education things"...if you dismiss PISA validity, you cannot simply say something else is now core valid suddenly.

Chinese americans have been around in US for longer in larger numbers (if you know about say the US railroad industry in 19th century for example)... than Indian-Americans have, so of course their prevalence rates will have normalised a bit more towards the American average with time...compared to say more recent elite immigration from India.

@rott @GeraltofRivia @Chinese-Dragon @long_

So you cite a single example to dify data. Why don't you search about average education of Chinese and Indian diaspora on net and invites Chinese member for your help. Do you expect them to accept that Indians are more educated?

 

[Nilgiri]

So you cite a single example to dify data. Why don't you search about average education of Chinese and Indian diaspora on net and invites Chinese member for your help. Do you expect them to accept that Indians are more educated?

First show me the data you are talking about.

 

[GeraltofRivia]

The only advantage these Indian unis have is English. If those Chinese top schools teach in pure English, your IT industry would be dead.

Hey man don’t need to belittle others like that. Kindly discuss things respectfully.

I dont bite

LOL, good one mate.

Mate...You don't sound like a Chinese.....using words bhai, using z instead of s, picking on Hindus of India etc etc.... Besides, the way your counter-arguments are laced with bragging, black humour and insulting your opponent...it just not like a Chinese.

Shù qǐyòu qí bìng tíngzhǐ wèizào.

I was suspicious about that too. Tbh I don’t even know what bhai means.

So you cite a single example to dify data. Why don't you search about average education of Chinese and Indian diaspora on net and invites Chinese member for your help. Do you expect them to accept that Indians are more educated?

Yeah well, a good third of my knowledge on general engg + aerospace materials that I use for my job...was first taught to me by Chinese lady prof who initially graduated from Tsinghua (she is one of the top 10 experts in her research field in Canada I would say)... so I personally know it to not be the case. Statistics are often garbage on a lot of these "education things"...if you dismiss PISA validity, you cannot simply say something else is now core valid suddenly

The amount of cited scientific publications speaks for the quality of China’s high education.

 

[Nilgiri]

The amount of cited scientific publications speaks for the quality of China’s high education.

Yes I come across papers in just my field when I have to go browsing/researching.

Given the raw research output China is doing now, I (and ppl i know) have cited a good number too...there is good spearhead quality in a fair enough amount of them. It would vary in other fields (more or less) and those fields relevancy to the top tier priorities I see for countries/science in general can also vary....so volume of citation is only so important for me....but nonetheless it shows China has come along way and is good role model for other developing countries to follow in such areas.

 

[serenity]

China is not a mediocre country in education and research today already. It will not "remain" mediocre. Of course some people will disagree but no UK research paper empirically proved this claim. It is ridiculous claim to make anyway. Of course some people will refute that because of personal hatred and politics. There will be some Neo Nazis saying things like Jews are stupid and all their inventions suck and stolen. They will be very confident too but it doesn't make it true.

Also this thread is quoting a dodgy news article. I'm sure Indian higher education is also improving. But why even involve China into that discussion? Why take something positive and purely Indian related and involve China by saying flaming things. It invites all the trolls and all the other people with opposite political motivations into flaming the thread. Then everyone gets emotional and the whole discussion gets worse.

I studied English in China. Not degree just courses. But maybe my language isn't good still definitely not the example some guy made saying he met someone who can't speak a word of English despite degree. That's one example. And that's if you can believe that guy. So why then say many science accounting etc degrees also worthless? That's the definition of not thinking properly. Using one person's single example to make broad judgements. I guess it's this kind of belief that makes already convinced people believe all Chinese are no good in higher education. This really doesn't matter because reality doesn't agree with these people. But it is kind of offensive to Chinese people who will read this sort of things. And some of them will flame. That's like me saying all dirty Indians are disgusting rapists who smell like curry. No wonder westerners hate them in their country and beat them up. Indians who read that if it is meant seriously will of course be offended. This isn't about being too sensitive because it is directly meant to offend and using arrogant judgements based on half truth or complete exaggerations. Let's ignore the obvious trolls and reactionaries who are reacting purely based from emotion and anger. Get China out of the discussion and refrain from comparisons or saying how one is better or getting better etc.

On topic. India will of course continue to improve education and future will have increasing number of developing world citizens ranking higher and higher. We hold most of the population of the world. Even if 10% of us reach 90% education level held by west, we will start ranking higher up and holding a lot of the proportion of research output. This should only be a good thing for humanity.