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Ignorant Muslim Bangladeshi celibrating Benglai new year: Nauzubillah Minzalik

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I know what is evolution. Yes social evolution is slow. But hypocrisy is another thing. Hypocrisy has nothing to do with evolutionary process. When an individual or a group of people become hypocrites then, yes, evolution may take place, but it will lead to degeneration of the society.

Social evolution is not necessarily positive. It may proceed to a negative aspect. Changes take place every time following natural courses, but whether that changes will bring good or not, it depends on the people who drive the vehicle of those changes. Now you decide on which side you are. In this connection do not forget the role of young bengal movement under the guidance of Derozio.

I just asked you to assert yourself as a proud Hindu, not as semi-Hindu, semi-Secular and semi-Communist. Be bold and clear. Do not wear any mask. There is nothing as neutrality. A man can never be neutral. It is not possible to afford neutrality for a man.

I never unnecessarily attacked Hinduism, why should I do that? I am not going to be paid a penny for that. I just expose the facts, the reality. If you are hurt by facing the reality, then I am sorry, I cannot help you. I referred to Manusmriti, you could not digest, what can I do? I can expose Hinduism in a far effective way, but vulgarism and nudity are not allowed here. And do not force me to respect an inhumane belief system. I cannot do that, sorry.

That CPIM person is not of my standard.

I still support Jakir and will continue supporting him. He is talking about corruption in the Islamic belief. Islam is based upon egalitarian values and some other beliefs are corrupting the basic radical characters of Islam. If you cannot feel that then it is your problem. And if Muslims allow such corruptions, Islam as an ideology will get serious damage.

i dont know from which angle you see me as a hypocrate, mr racist........i told you from the 1st day,yes i was born as a hindu,but i dont follow any of the so called customs and anything that uplifts communalism.......is this hypocricy? First you told you follow and support the manus and assert its saying,now you say you want to quote the manu to uplift the bads of hinduism and its 'vulgarism'.....you are a self proclaimed communist who supports communalism and racism.......you dont have basic humane thoughts,which allows you to respect others' belief.,......i can also talk loads of rubbish about every religion on the earth,but i dont,cause i respect them..........so who is a hypocrate? Me, Who,keeps his beliefs upto himself,and doesnt disrespect others' and hurt others' beliefs?...........and yes you have zero knowledge about social evolution..
 
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Dose your definition of proud Hindu means Anti Islamic + Anti Christianity ;)


Hinduism itself by its very existence is anti-Islamic. Those who cannot accept this are hypocrites.

Also the relation between Islam and Hinduism is like the relation between Palestine and Israel. Can both of them co-exist with pyar, ishq, mohabbat? Let us come out of the utopianism and enter the real world.
 
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Remember, you told me that as you respect and love your parents who are Hindus, you claim to be a Hindu???

That means, if one's dad used to be a teacher, the son then must be a teacher to follow his dad's profession, and if one's dad used to steal people's assets, then the son must be a stealer to continue the profession on hereditary basis. Our ancestors in the ancient period used to wear tree leaves to hide body parts, our ancestors used to live in the caves as there was no five star flats, our ancestors used to keep beards as there was no shaving cream and instruments, our ancestors used to treat women as properties as women did not have the idea of individualism and human rights, our ancestors used to practice animism as they were afraid of natural calamities, our ancestors used to kill people who did not look like them as they got scared of aliens, our ancestors used to do many things that we cannot do now.

But my dear SFI member, as you claimed, according to your argument since we respect and love our ancestors, we must blindly follow all of their actions, no?? Porashuno shikhechho to? Logic die bhabo...
You are comparing one’s faith to one’s profession and personal practices. Tomatoes to oranges. Tell me, did you choose your religion when you were born. Nope. All of us are born into the religion of our parents and we accept that religion almost unquestioningly. Yes, there are people who do convert from their parental religion to other, but even in that case, they first get initiated, ceremoniously or otherwise, into their parental religion, before finally giving it up. That’s how religion works. The ritualistic practices that come with individual religion also get transfused like this. One may choose to practice such rituals or one may not. But the core basis of his parental religion continues to exist in his psyche, until he completely rejects it.

That’s not how profession is transferred to the progeny. Unlike religion, or any other faith, profession is a matter of knowledge, skill and competence. A farmer’s son may become a farmer, not because his father is a farmer, but because of the fact that having a farmer as his father will expose him to the nuances of farming practices a lot earlier in his life. This may enrich his knowledge in farming, which will go a long way in honing his skills. He will be at more advantage than say, a cobblers son, when it comes to farming. But the cobbler’s son will be at an advantage when it comes to cobbling. It is this familiarity to his father’s profession, that may lead him to choose his father’s profession. Unlike religion, father’s profession is not an automatic choice for his kid. But then, if he is not competent enough he may end up being something else altogether.

Personal practices also get infused in us almost like faith. Many of our parental practices just find their way in our own personality, without us even being aware of it happening. But then again, it happens with only those practices to which we are directly exposed, not those, which were practiced few generations before and got lost into oblivion, and hence never came in touch with in the first place.

By making such arguments, you have proved once again, you do not understand about things that you pretend to be expert on – in this case theology. Your argument of “purity” is like a two year old, busy filling colour books with crayons. You preach others to be logical and you, yourself prefer to stay insulated from it.
You refer to a CPIM member who claims he is first a Brahmin, then a Hindu, then a communist!!!!

First of all, he must see his face in the mirror to know whether he looks like an Aryan or not? I hope he has money to buy a mirror. He is not an Aryan. He is not a Brahmin. But he claims that!!!
First of all, it was me who referred to the Minister of transport and sports, not Jako. Second, why would I care what he thinks or not. I referred to him, to counter one of your asinine argument on another thread.

Btw, someone who assesses a man, by his looks is called a racist. You are a certifiable one. But, since you are beyond rectification, I will not even bother to correct your notion.
 
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Beside Islam has no shortcoming.
This is where we shall part our ways. Perfection is Idealism and it exists only in ones mind. What is perfect to you may not be so to me. What is perfect to me, may not be so to you.

We all revere our beliefs and faiths. Doesn't mean that we have to be so vocal about it.

Regards.:cheers:
 
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Hinduism itself by its very existence is anti-Islamic. Those who cannot accept this are hypocrites.

Also the relation between Islam and Hinduism is like the relation between Palestine and Israel. Can both of them co-exist with pyar, ishq, mohabbat? Let us come out of the utopianism and enter the real world.

and you call yourself a communist!!! Come visit my locality,you can see examples of how to co-exist......we enjoy festivals of both religions together with lots of dhum dham.......we dont give a damn to the social stigma.......after a bloody history,this days do you see any communal riots in west bengal or bangladesh? 'Hinduisms existence is anti-islamic' - how can you say this when hinduism is the oldest religion existing in present days?? Islam came later and gave a alternative to it,which many gladly embraced.......it was the extremists of both the religions who grew this hate propagonda among them.......
 
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Bangla new year is a purely cultural event. And traditionally business open new accounting book called “hal khata”, women who can afford wears colorful shari, special meals are eaten, there are mela or local exhibitions where mostly kids goes and enjoy different rides, eats snacks and enjoy company of friends and family. That’s how traditional Bengali new years have been celebrated for ages.

But what has been seen over last few years are monkey and other animal masks and costume has been brought out including hindu holi style ritual of face and body painting. These are not original Bangladeshi tradition but mostly foreign one brought from Hindu ritual. And another interesting fact is that these rituals are practiced mostly around Bangla academy and Dhaka University venue where most prominent Bengali new year celebration takes place.

By pushing Hindu rituals into a purely cultural celebration a section of Bangladeshis (with help of indian hand) trying to impose Hindu religious overtone over majority population. And no one should expect that will bring any congenial outcome.

But Indians here and few Bangladeshis are in fact just trying to push some of Hindu rituals in guise of Bengla new year tradition.
 
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You are comparing one’s faith to one’s profession and personal practices. Tomatoes to oranges....etc etc

Let me know about your grand grand father's occupation first if you still insist me not to go by looks.
 
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I just asked you to assert yourself as a proud Hindu, not as semi-Hindu, semi-Secular and semi-Communist. Be bold and clear. Do not wear any mask. There is nothing as neutrality. A man can never be neutral. It is not possible to afford neutrality for a man.
You are preaching what you, yourself don't practice. How convenient.

Communist said:
I still support Jakir and will continue supporting him. He is talking about corruption in the Islamic belief. Islam is based upon egalitarian values and some other beliefs are corrupting the basic radical characters of Islam. If you cannot feel that then it is your problem. And if Muslims allow such corruptions, Islam as an ideology will get serious damage.
You can support whoever you want to. Thats your prerogative. We don't give a flying fcuk. Just don't do it under the guise of communism and secularism. You give both these terms, a very very bad name.
 
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You refer to a CPIM member who claims he is first a Brahmin, then a Hindu, then a communist!!!!

First of all, he must see his face in the mirror to know whether he looks like an Aryan or not? I hope he has money to buy a mirror. He is not an Aryan. He is not a Brahmin. But he claims that!!! How can such a person be a communist?

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS,MODS.
 
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Hinduism itself by its very existence is anti-Islamic. Those who cannot accept this are hypocrites.
Anything that is not Islamic is now ANTI-Islam ? What kind of convoluted argument is that ?

Communist said:
Also the relation between Islam and Hinduism is like the relation between Palestine and Israel. Can both of them co-exist with pyar, ishq, mohabbat? Let us come out of the utopianism and enter the real world.
Nah...i give up:hitwall:
 
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Let me know about your grand grand father's occupation first if you still insist me not to go by looks.
Any other day, any other place, any other person...and I would have taken offense. But since its a 2 year old kid with crayons, I would rather chuckle...:)
 
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You can support whoever you want to. Thats your prerogative. We don't give a flying fcuk. Just don't do it under the guise of communism and secularism. You give both these terms, a very very bad name.

First of all mind your language, it is not your drawing room. If you cannot argue in a civil manner, then I am not going to make any conversation with you. Its not my culture. My parents have taught me a good sanskar and spent lots of money for my higher education.

Secondly do not dictate me.


Let us get back to the topic now.
 
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First of all mind your language, it is not your drawing room. If you cannot argue in a civil manner, then I am not going to make any conversation with you. Its not my culture. My parents have taught me a good sanskar and spent lots of money for my higher education.

Secondly do not dictate me.


Let us get back to the topic now.

right sir,but one does take galigalaj(though it was not pointed at you) lightly than racism........racism is the worst part of human culture......
 
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My parents have taught me a good sanskar and spent lots of money for my higher education.

Yah its visible .....................:hitwall:

PS:Sorry MODs for off topic post
 
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