If there were Rafales, results would have been different. Now the new air chief is crying.

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I have seen air forces showing pieces of the debris of the enemy aeroplanes, I have never seen an air force showing a portion of an exploded missile inside their own aircraft. Only IAF can do it

They have been waiting for the PAF debris for decades after decades!! Ultimately, they've found one!! It's like a "Eureka" moment for them! Why shouldn't they display it 24/7????

 

[khansaheeb]

Brilliant , well done!

 

[crankthatskunk]

Oh Bro, the last bit about Trump was just out of this world.
Top that.

 

[Lincoln]

The Indians on this thread are damn hilarious. For those calling the Mig 21 Bison an age old fighter... IAF has spent billions on this fleet's upgradation, it is a 3++ generation jet in the fleet. It's your Air Force's fault if they can't keep up good maintenance.

As for PAF, they planned, executed and achieved. We have the recordings and we have the proof. Jets downed, jammed and target sites hit.

Always came out on top in history and performed exemplarily. Pride of the nation for a reason.

 

[ziaulislam]

The Indians on this thread are damn hilarious. For those calling the Mig 21 Bison an age old fighter... IAF has spent billions on this fleet's upgradation, it is a 3++ generation jet in the fleet. It's your Air Force's fault if they can't keep up good maintenance.

As for PAF, they planned, executed and achieved. We have the recordings and we have the proof. Jets downed, jammed and target sites hit.

Always came out on top in history and performed exemplarily. Pride of the nation for a reason.

last upgrade of bison was over 700 million dollars for just 120 aircrafts in 1996 (adjusted for inflation almost 1 billion in 2005) ..this is more than what we spend on first 50 thunders

in short bison upgrade was no joke, it was made capable of carrying two BVRs and two WVRs with extra dorsal fuel
it was therefore thought to match any advance jet

https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/aircraft/current/605-bison.html

our first 50 thunders tender was around 800 million $

 

[Talon]

Feb 27 was a battle between Pakistan's best and our worst and Pakistanis even had numerical superiority yet they think of it a great victory.

So your worst pilots are stationed against your greatest enemy? Where are your best pilots stationed at... against Nepal and Bangla?

P.s All our Pilots are best so be it Kashmir or Karachi you'll see the same results.

 

[DHSquare]

Oh so momen pilots wasted a couple of amrams by firing them 100 kms away from our flankers and fled, and that makes su 30 useless. Great.

While it's a different thing that r77 has shorter range but Pakistanis should not forget the difference between the quality of their pilots and ours. Have they forgotten how two of their f16 pilots fled the fight when an IAF fulcrum locked on both of them during Kargil war. PAF did not had bvr capability back then thus they fled. But our soldiers stay their ground and fight even with inferior equipment. They don't surrender. And that's the different. Machines are replaced, balls can't be.

 

[GriffinsRule]

So your worst pilots are stationed against your greatest enemy? Where are your best pilots stationed at... against Nepal and Bangla?

P.s All our Pilots are best so be it Kashmir or Karachi you'll see the same results.

Im surprised you dont know this already. Their best pilots are flying commercial airliners of course

 

[The Maverick]

"


"ziaulislam, post: 12378136, member: 26526"]last upgrade of bison was over 700 million dollars for just 120 aircrafts in 1996 (adjusted for inflation almost 1 billion in 2005) ..this is more than what we spend on first 50 thunders

in short bison upgrade was no joke, it was made capable of carrying two BVRs and two WVRs with extra dorsal fuel
it was therefore thought to match any advance jet


As far as the Indians are concerned IT DID MATCH your best Jet.
It chased away a fleeing F16 and in the heat of the battle when so many things can go wrong it entered WRONG side of LOC it got shot down BUT not before ramming a HOBS 73 into the side of the fleeing F16. it was PAF wingman that Got Abhinandhan.

Listen PAF has its version AND india has its My Summay is simple

On 26th 12 indian Mirage2000-5 entered PAF airspace and dropped bombs or missles . Undetected PAF was asleep
PAF warned IAF of a response
On the 27th They came in day light.... 24 planes crossed LOC 10km and dropped bombs and fired amraams at IAF fighters from BVR
IAF was asleep only 8 planes nearby .. Why WAS this allowed to happen utter failure imo by IAF
PAF fired amraam shots but no hit . Indians claimed PAF pilots went manuel did not wait for firing signal overrode to fire from too far ie poor BVR tactics
IAF claim heir SU30MKI doged amraams with ease by going high to low and vice versa HOT and COLD.
The PAF turned to get back across LOC AFTER seeing approaching mirage2000 & SU30MKI
A mig21 WAS CLOSER so chased PAF … BUT a F16 shot him down Abihnandan fell your side of LOC. BUT IAF claim Abi shot down the PAF F16 and as himself hit by wing man or PAF SAM
The DOSRA BHANDA as your AIRFORCE spokesman called him was never found... yet you claimed to have two pilots at one stage.
MIG21 got taken out that as YOUR BIG WIN and getting across in day LIGHT without detection like the mirage 2000 night before IS the other WIN

BUT I hasten to add getting 10km into each other airspace is no biggy in NATO Israel and THE WEST imo

I think on points you GUYS won this round only because you have MIG21 proof
We have no F16 proof
You have NO MKI proof

South Asians have a habit of exaggeration and chest THUMBING AND blatently lyeing

Remember OBL and Kargil

Dont get me wrong the Indians are as bad

any way ill never now but WELL DONE on the MIG21 prize .

 

[TheTallGuy]

IAF pilots did great and were able dodge the first set of missiles but the two SU-30 were downed by the 2nd set. This where IAF pilots miscalculated.

We lost two SU-30s and 1 MIG-21

3 Indian pilots died on Indian side, 1 Indian pilot and 1 Israeli pilot captured on Pakistani side.

Can we adjust it to 8 (3 x Su-30MKI, 2 x Mirage 2000-5 Mk 2, 3 x MiG-21bison) and by the way What aircraft israeli was flying?

 

[The Maverick]

Can we adjust it to 8 (3 x Su-30MKI, 2 x Mirage 2000-5 Mk 2, 3 x MiG-21bison) and by the way What aircraft israeli was flying?

lol

An Israeli pilot born to FLY F15 & F16

WAS FLYING THE SU30MKI

listen TO yourselves

 

[loanranger]

Can we adjust it to 8 (3 x Su-30MKI, 2 x Mirage 2000-5 Mk 2, 3 x MiG-21bison) and by the way What aircraft israeli was flying?

I'd love to sell cars like you aswell

 

[TheTallGuy]

lol

An Israeli pilot born to FLY F15 & F16

WAS FLYING THE SU30MKI

listen TO yourselves

You guys are the one who are claiming 5-6 AIM-120C5s fired at you, You guys have claimed JF17s engaged Mirage 2000-5 Mk 2 and final if some one comes from your side says more then 1 aircraft is lost...you are to make fun of him.

By the way Israeli cant be flying Su-30MKI because he had to Take off from Sirsa or Halwara and IDF/AF contingent was with Mirage 2000 unit.

 

[PradoTLC]

As far as the Indians are concerned IT DID MATCH your best Jet.
It chased away a fleeing F16 and in the heat of the battle when so many things can go wrong it entered WRONG side of LOC it got shot down BUT not before ramming a HOBS 73 into the side of the fleeing F16. it was PAF wingman that Got Abhinandhan.

Yes according to indians.... where as the rest of world face palmed india's military incompetence.

Undetected PAF was asleep
PAF warned IAF of a response

Ok... seems like you have been reading too many RSS hindu commando comics.

PAF fired amraam shots but no hit . Indians claimed PAF pilots went manuel did not wait for firing signal overrode to fire from too far ie poor BVR tactics

really?.. no shit.

On the 27th They came in day light.... 24 planes crossed LOC 10km and dropped bombs and fired amraams at IAF fighters from BVR

24 planes crossed?.. why? we had BVR... and stand off weapons

dropped bombs?.. ... really?

are you sure you are not getting this from a WW2 comic book?

IAF claim heir SU30MKI doged amraams with ease by going high to low and vice versa HOT and COLD.

if they could dodge why did they not return fire?

MIG21 got taken out that as YOUR BIG WIN and getting across in day LIGHT without detection like the mirage 2000 night before IS the other WIN

In the heads of indians sure.

Mirages hit nothing... Reuters busted that... and your F-16 wet dream Christine Fair did us the honors.

 

[DrWatson775]

"


"ziaulislam, post: 12378136, member: 26526"]last upgrade of bison was over 700 million dollars for just 120 aircrafts in 1996 (adjusted for inflation almost 1 billion in 2005) ..this is more than what we spend on first 50 thunders

in short bison upgrade was no joke, it was made capable of carrying two BVRs and two WVRs with extra dorsal fuel
it was therefore thought to match any advance jet


As far as the Indians are concerned IT DID MATCH your best Jet.
It chased away a fleeing F16 and in the heat of the battle when so many things can go wrong it entered WRONG side of LOC it got shot down BUT not before ramming a HOBS 73 into the side of the fleeing F16. it was PAF wingman that Got Abhinandhan.

Listen PAF has its version AND india has its My Summay is simple

On 26th 12 indian Mirage2000-5 entered PAF airspace and dropped bombs or missles . Undetected PAF was asleep
PAF warned IAF of a response
On the 27th They came in day light.... 24 planes crossed LOC 10km and dropped bombs and fired amraams at IAF fighters from BVR
IAF was asleep only 8 planes nearby .. Why WAS this allowed to happen utter failure imo by IAF
PAF fired amraam shots but no hit . Indians claimed PAF pilots went manuel did not wait for firing signal overrode to fire from too far ie poor BVR tactics
IAF claim heir SU30MKI doged amraams with ease by going high to low and vice versa HOT and COLD.
The PAF turned to get back across LOC AFTER seeing approaching mirage2000 & SU30MKI
A mig21 WAS CLOSER so chased PAF … BUT a F16 shot him down Abihnandan fell your side of LOC. BUT IAF claim Abi shot down the PAF F16 and as himself hit by wing man or PAF SAM
The DOSRA BHANDA as your AIRFORCE spokesman called him was never found... yet you claimed to have two pilots at one stage.
MIG21 got taken out that as YOUR BIG WIN and getting across in day LIGHT without detection like the mirage 2000 night before IS the other WIN

BUT I hasten to add getting 10km into each other airspace is no biggy in NATO Israel and THE WEST imo

I think on points you GUYS won this round only because you have MIG21 proof
We have no F16 proof
You have NO MKI proof

South Asians have a habit of exaggeration and chest THUMBING AND blatently lyeing

Remember OBL and Kargil

Dont get me wrong the Indians are as bad

any way ill never now but WELL DONE on the MIG21 prize .

Every few days an Indian comes and posts some hilarious version of the skirmish. Questions are asked and never directly answered. Than they disappear. Repeat .