if The army has evidence of indian involvment in FATA and bolochistan why doesnt it go public?

[ZooZoo]

We captured few terrorist in an operation. During interrogation they confessed about indian support. They used to visit indian consulates in Afghanistan. All indian consulates along the Durandline are recruiting terrorist for activities inside Pakistan.

Probably Last year, Pakistani Fauj killed some boys. They claim that those were Hindu terrorists...

Self Proclaimed Khaleefa Zaid Hameed said "Look at there face, they look like Hindus. There Penis is not "cut" they are not muslim. They are Hindus"

Later it was found that those were Muslims from some Hilly area of Pakitan, where few family don't cut there penis..


Second instance: Some Ismaic warrior of PDF posted a photoshop pic of tatooed terrorists and claim that they were devil worship Hindus (For these Islamic warriors All god are devil except Allah).

 

[Bratva]

Lol you think? If they had any real proof they would be screaming it out on the roof tops

Empty dossiers is a useless propaganda to satisfy the internal audience, If there is any weight to their allegations we would have probably seen a censure from their best friends China atleast let alone UN.

They are quick to ridicule Indian evidence publicaly available and internationally accepted but would insist on integrity of their closed dossiers which probably contains best of story writing skills of their ISPR.

Let me try this in simple terms


Did USSR ever able to proof Pakistan or America involvement in Afghanistan proxy war ? Despite being the super power of that time ? THat is why it is called proxy war

Heck Is russian involvement prove din Ukranian war beyond reasonable doubt ? Has America been able to proof Pakistan-Haqqani nexus beyond reasonable doubt and in UN or in ICJ ?


And we are talking about Indian aiding baloch rebels with materialistic support. Broaden your thinking horizon. Might do you a good.

 

[Pulsar]

Try harder next time in refuting my post about Indian involvement instead of personally focusing on me.

PROOF? You have zilch! Full stop! Why haven't you shown it so far?

Some joker saying he was trained by RAW is no proof. Stop clutching at straws and start getting real. Living in a world of make-believe has landed you guys where you are.

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

huriyat se milnna jyada zaroori tha ki RAW ki involvement prove karna?

apni media ko dossier dikhate hua muskara raha hai? comedy show chal raha hai kya phichle 10 saalon se pakistaan mein?

After so many years of suffering faced by local pakistanis due to terror blamed on RAW, they chose huriyat over the dossier proving involvement of RAW? ya allah

 

[Neutron]

Probably Last year, Pakistani Fauj killed some boys. They claim that those were Hindu terrorists...

Self Proclaimed Khaleefa Zaid Hameed said "Look at there face, they look like Hindus. There Penis is not "cut" they are not muslim. They are Hindus"

Later it was found that those were Muslims from some Hilly area of Pakitan, where few family don't cut there penis..


Second instance: Some Ismaic warrior of PDF posted a photoshop pic of tatooed terrorists and claim that they were devil worship Hindus (For these Islamic warriors All god are devil except Allah).

I interrogated 5 terrorist after successful completion of operation. They were affiliated with TTP. Three confessed about involvement of Indian consulates as they were recruited by indian consulates.

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

I interrogated 5 terrorist after successful completion of operation. They were affiliated with TTP. Three confessed about involvement of Indian consulates as they were recruited by indian consulates.

Areey bhai to aake dikhana tha na dossier.

 

[Spectre]

Let me try this in simple terms


Did USSR ever able to proof Pakistan or America involvement in Afghanistan proxy war ? Despite being the super power of that time ? THat is why it is called proxy war

Heck Is russian involvement prove din Ukranian war beyond reasonable doubt ? Has America been able to proof Pakistan-Haqqani nexus beyond reasonable doubt and in UN or in ICJ ?


And we are talking about Indian aiding baloch rebels with materialistic support. Broaden your thinking horizon. Might do you a good.

What is proven or not beyond doubt ultimately is irrelevant, the point is Russian involvement in Ukraine extracted heavy costs in form of sanctions because there were sufficient enough proof for many countries to impose punishing restrictions on Russia.

If Pakistan is able to provide sufficient enough proof of Indian mischief to international parties then cost to India would be prohibitive in two terms

1. Its own allegations against Pakistan would stand null and avoid thus freeing Pakistan to conduct business as usual in Kashmir

2. Punitive sanctions will extract a heavy toll on its economy

The inability of Pakistan to convince even China with whom it has probably the best of relationships to censure India on an international forum for its acts against Pakistan clearly outlines utter lack of Indian involvement in any significant sense.

While on the other hand mischief of parties based in Pakistan is soundly accepted by most countries and it is only China which is saving Pakistan's Bacon in UN.

There is no need to simplify things for my benefit

Regards

 

[MilSpec]

Credibility is in the claims Indian consulates are aiding and abetting Pakistani terrorists in Afghanistan with the help of NDS.

Perhaps a if you have looked closely in this thread . A baloch rebel commander paid a visit to India on afghani passport.

Credibility in Claim ... simple question is why cant you make the mythical report public????

Ok, If some one applies for an Indian Visa on a afghan passport, and clears the visa requirements in afghan consulate, why would there be an issue. We did not issue the pass port. Was this individual on the interpol notice, or any watchlists?

 

[Neutron]

Areey bhai to aake dikhana tha na dossier.

They are dead now

 

[thrilainmanila]

When a country accusing another country of aiding terrorism against them, they need to come up with documented evidence not hearsay, they need to go to UN security counsel and present there case the pak army has been accusing the Indians of this yet they've never formally gone to the UN security counsel and presented there findings. This tells me that either the evidence they have isn't strong or that there taking bullshit. IF they really had such evidence they would have released it, do they care about india so much they'll keep it under wraps STOP FOOLING YOURSELVES. I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE LIES.

 

[Usama78]

I'm not saying there isn't any evidence, but whatever proof the army has why doesn't it just release it to the rest of the world and expose indian involvement in terrorism?

It would be a very bad move diplomatically, I would say

Probably Last year, Pakistani Fauj killed some boys. They claim that those were Hindu terrorists...

Self Proclaimed Khaleefa Zaid Hameed said "Look at there face, they look like Hindus. There Penis is not "cut" they are not muslim. They are Hindus"

Later it was found that those were Muslims from some Hilly area of Pakitan, where few family don't cut there penis..


Second instance: Some Ismaic warrior of PDF posted a photoshop pic of tatooed terrorists and claim that they were devil worship Hindus (For these Islamic warriors All god are devil except Allah).

Zaid Hamid is a stupid, we all know that... just Like Ajit Dovel.

We muslims do not believe anything like what you said.
We simply that there is only one God and that is Allah. To be simple.

 

[wadi79]

I'm not saying there isn't any evidence, but whatever proof the army has why doesn't it just release it to the rest of the world and expose indian involvement in terrorism?

It is a bit like how a lot of Pakistanis have been throwing a hissy-fit for years about 'India is stealing our water from Indus' - then some months back the Chairman of Indus Water Association - a Pakistani - acknowledged that it was Pakistan's own mismanagement that was responsible for the water shortage, not India. This news was covered widely - you can easily Google it.

Then there have been other incidences of the Pakistani establishment blatantly lying through its teeth - only to be caught out:

1. I recall, during the Kargil War, every single Pakistani leader/commentator claiming that it was the 'mujahideen' who were fighting against India - they even refused to accept the bodies of dead soldiers. Later on, the involvement of NLI was acknowledged - along with casualties.
2. Pakistan had been denying for years that Osama was hiding in their territory - then of course, Osama was captured and killed in Pakistan.
3. Pakistan denied that it was proliferating nuclear technology - then AQ Khan and his nuclear supermarket selling tech to all sorts of rogue regimes was unveiled.
   
4. Pakistan at first denied that Ajmal Kasab was their citizen - which was shown as a lie.

So what is more likely - that Pakistan has proof of India's involvement and is not showing it, or that Pakistan is as usual, twisting facts? I

 

[thrilainmanila]

I'm gonna be accused of being a RAW agent/Hiduvata extremist, but I'm going to speak my mind here, you can check my history I've been very pro-pak army and have supported there fight, when I see clear bullshit i'll call it. We always acuse the Indians of doing everything, we need to take responsibilities for many of this, the FATA areas are unruly, the Afgan government isn't strong and there army isn't great its Highly likely that the terrorists were fighting are our own, we trained the mujhahideen to fight the Indians in Kashmir, when 9/11 happened and the Yankees bombed afganistan some of these groups splintered and there the same people where fighting right now, IT DOESnt TAKE AN IDIOT TO REALISE this, Once I see clear evidence of indian involvement and once evidence is presented to the security counsil or an independent investigation I'll accept that these accusations are true, but to accuse them without no hard evidence is just childish and ridiculous. My question is what would the Indians gain from a destabalized Pakistan it would make things worse for them, they'll be dealing with a neighbour who is a banana state with nukes, They don't fear a stabalised Pakistan, Pakistan could become like south korea, but the Indians due to there size will always have a bigger economy its a fact of life.
The main reason why we accuse Indians I Feel is that we want more unity in the country, we don't want the people of Pakistan to know that the terrorists were fighting are actually are own bastards.

It would be a very bad move diplomatically, I would say


Zaid Hamid is a stupid, we all know that... just Like Ajit Dovel.

We muslims do not believe anything like what you said.
We simply that there is only one God and that is Allah. To be simple.

no, who cares of diplomacy, the Indians provide and parade people were accused of harbouring when did they take diplomacy into consideration, if there was hard evidence of it, it would have already been presented IMHO.

 

[Bratva]

Credibility in Claim ... simple question is why cant you make the mythical report public????

Ok, If some one applies for an Indian Visa on a afghan passport, and clears the visa requirements in afghan consulate, why would there be an issue. We did not issue the pass port. Was this individual on the interpol notice, or any watchlists?

Coming straight from Horse mouth

Brahmdagh Bugti, who currently resides in Switzerland, elaborated by asking what difference has been made by torture, killings and arrests in the last ten to fifteen years.

He also stated that the negotiating environment must be conducive.

When asked about assistance from India, Bugti said he will not deny it, as it is usual for people to ask for assistance when they are defending themselves.

Brahamdagh Bugti willing to negotiate: BBC - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[surya kiran]

My question is what would the Indians gain from a destabalized Pakistan it would make things worse for them, they'll be dealing with a neighbour who is a banana state with nukes, They don't fear a stabalised Pakistan,

Thank you. We are not idiots. We are extremely happy, that , the PA is dealing with the nutjobs on your western border. If Pakistan collapses, it will be the IA, which will have to deal with the riff raff. Which is not something we are looking forward to.

Do we provide financial and moral support to the Balochs? Probably. It would be naive to assume, that we do not. Do we actively promote them to bomb Pakistan. Probably not. There is something had read somewhere or somebody mentioned, that, Indian intelligence had tipped off Pakistani intelligence on an assassination attempt on Musharraf. Could we have done that? Probably, because, he was our best bet at solving the Kashmir issue. But at the same time, there are also favours provided to the Kashmiri separatists by Indian intelligence. So, there is nothing in black and white.

But accusing RAW of funding your fundamentalist groups is foolish. They are as much a threat to us as they are to you.

Brahmdagh Bugti, who currently resides in Switzerland, elaborated by asking what difference has been made by torture, killings and arrests in the last ten to fifteen years.

He also stated that the negotiating environment must be conducive.

By this logic, would not Pakistan also be held accountable for terrorist activities in India, since, you openly meet the Hurriyat. Also, please do not say JuD is a saintly organisation which does only good work in Pakistan. You abet an organisation which actually sends terrorists into Pakistan.

There are multiple problems here, bratva. Indian citizens do not cross the border to accomplish acts of terrorism and please do not weave conspiracy theories. Pakistani citizens have. Thats not freedom fighting. Its open act of terrorism, which the State of Pakistan has been unable to curtail.