If you are realistic then stop sending poor chaps to die in Kashm
Agreed then. India is at that stage where it can commit genocide in Kashmir and the world won't bat an eye. If anything this recent incident has proven is that deliberate silence of the world and the heavy handedness india can use. Thousand injured, thousands jailed and 700+ blinded. Nobody gave a damn.
If we cannot get it on war then we cannot get it on table either. We are talking from last 70 odd years and we all have seen we are back to square one. You cannot ask a bigger country and that too with very much big economy to toe to your line. Even West or UN is not going to or will never ever interfere in it.
Still we must try for talks. As I stated india was on board on the musharraf model and its the most realistic and peaceful solution which will also see both sides being able to visit their ancestral place. India wants to solve this as well one way or the other and bilaterally. India cannot ever become a super power if it has to constantly tussle with us and India knows this. We simply have to make sure nothing happens when we are engaging. Mark my words. Both sides will not be getting any land from the other. The best solution is simple demilitarization and ease of travel between border which slowly becomes open for the locals. Perhaps a better water deal along with it. Musharraf model.
You cannot also expect to annex 100,000km worth of land from a big country and control all it's water and strategic points and not expect a nuclear attack and see that country take it sitting down.
There is a reason it's one of the longest UN issues in history and to this day it's as hot as it was in 1947
Keep on claiming, it does not make a difference to them or
You can say the same to them. Yet claims will never be stopped.
They are dying anyways and so do poor mujaheedins from our end. What are the other options, please do let us know. Please dont share your ideas of next 3 decades.
The only option is let the situation cool down and engage in talks and work on the musharraf model. That is the only solution and hundred years from now that will be the only solution available.
Do you now see how difficult the situation is? How can you blame raheel then? What can you expect from him?
If it was not his job then he should have never talked about it. It is there on records and I am ready to present it to you.
I criticized him when he said that and I stated that its not the army's job. However that statement does not blind me from his achievement on the war on terror front.
Lahore was never a target as LEJ and LET are bron and brought by Noora only. They support it. They requested Taliban not to target Punjab and was very lenient with them.
I know about sanaullah and Punjabi Taliban and their presence in Punjab.
The Punjabi Taliban may nor have targeted lahore but lahore had a blast from Taliban every day. Every place. Quite frankly the Punjabi Taliban also had their way as they blew up shia places as well as data darbar attack ( if I remember correctly it was them) the RA bazar attack.
Isn't LEJ allied with jamat ul ahrar which are ISIS and didn't they bomb blasted gilani park on Easter resulting on 80+ christian deaths.
Bomb blasts at RA bazar, at mall, at hafeez center is not leniency. Other areas of pakistan were targeted as well but lahore bore a brunt. Its only advantage was that it was away from FATA and Afghanistan a luxury Peshawar and Quetta didn't have but lahore and Karachi suffered from Taliban.
I agree with most of the things you wrote but if that is the truth then we must leave Kashmiris to their fate and stop sacrificing our people for the sake of Kashmir which we are not going to get through War or on table according to you.
Let's agree in things we agree and agree to disagree on things we disagree. OK. You have your opinion I have mine.
We can't leave them. Despite everything we must continuously engage them to work on a peaceful solution. Musharrag model is the way. Nobody will get lands from each other neither through war nor talks but we can come up with an arrangement that can end this conflict.