If Pakistan fires, we won't keep an account of our bullets: Rajnath Singh

[ito]

in fact he can not do anything he just boosting moral but it seems this BS not work now

They sound more empty than boosting. Anyway, I guess, the prerequisite for India Pakistan to have some semblance in relations is for Pakistan to rein in India specific terror groups such as LeT and JeM.

 

[JohnyD]

All the wile PLA is making the Indian military look like a stuffed elephant.

how? can u prove? has PLA fired any round at IA ? any d most imp, rats dont talk about elephants!

 

[ito]

There is no response. What response can you give?
You can lazeroinfraradarometer the entire LoC and someone will still end up digging a tunnel and doing this.
You can try threats like this but EVERYONE in New Delhi- 110011 knows that the nukes make anything other than a small meaningless skirmish a death knell for all in the subcontinent.
You can try to retaliate against Pakistan by financing the Baloch dissidents but the current scorched earth + friendly tribes policy has left very little to recruit and only makes the already India focused Pakistani establishment provide more support to groups like LeT.
The international community is one avenue to put pressure but until a hostile narrative ends ; even without official support the LeT has enough sentimental baggage to tap into for men and material.
The only hope lies in continuously supporting a grass roots connection campaign; however with social media good for only spreading hatred the results are going to be long and arduous.

The only hope for India's security in the short term lies in forcing the international community to take Pakistan's nukes and then launching an all out conventional conflict; what the brings later is anyone's guess.

I guess the responses of India will be of non military ways such as India using its economic might to stifle Pakistan economically or isolating Pakistan or circumventing Pakistan thus denying its geographically advantage or even equipping Afghanistan to keep Pakistan's western border simmering. I can sense that already happening.

 

[My-Analogous]

NEW DELHI: Union home minister Rajnath Singh, on Sunday, came out strongly against Pakistan in the light of Saturday's terror strike in Jammu & Kashmir's Pampore in which 8 jawans were martyred while several were injured.

"We won't fire first but if Pakistan does, we won't keep an account of our bullets," Rajnath said.

"An attempt is being made by these terrorists and our neighbouring country to destabilise India. I call upon Indian youth to stand up to face such forces and we should greet and welcome the bravery of our security people and the way they are working with such valour and courage," Singh had earlier said without naming any country.
After the Pakistan-based terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba claimed responsibility for Saturday's attack on a Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) convoy in Pampore town of Jammu and Kashmir, Rajnath Singh said the Centre will be sending a two-member committee to find out the loopholes which led to the untoward incident."All our security forces are fighting very bravely and efficiently and in this small span of time the numbers of terrorists they have gunned down is highly commendable," he added.

Saturday's attack was the fourth one on the security forces in Jammu and Kashmir this month. At least 17 security personnel were killed and several others injured in the last three major strikes along the Jammu-Srinagar Highway during the period.

Officials say infiltration has dramatically gone up compared to the previous year with more than 50 terrorists crossing the border in the last five months. Last year, there was zero infiltration in the first four months.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ullets-Rajnath-Singh/articleshow/52927196.cms

NSG after shocks and many more to come. I like this kind of stand up comedian. Do you guys have more?

 

[Strigon]

I am surprised he hasn't blame Pakistan yet for 90ish people killed in lightning strikes across India in last week alone. Nor there is any mention of that news. But since Kashmir is always good to cash in political points, thats what they do.

 

[BetterPakistan]

Sometimes, this guy rajnath singh seems a joker to me. He keeps on doing comedy.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Frustration... and just frustration.. who counts bulliets... maybe baniyan have been.

 

[PDF]

The CRPF claimed that the army reached the site only after the operation was over






Pakistan and Hafiz Saeed are back with their old tricks and a new terrorist leader is making his presence felt in the militant circles. Intelligence agencies have pointed out that the 25th June Pampore attack on CRPF personnel was carried out on the instructions of LeT chief Hafiz Saeed’s son-in-law, Khalid Waleed.

8 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel were martyred while 21 were brutally injured as terrorists attacked their convoy. Reports indicate that while Waleed was the mastermind of the attack, his deputies, Hanzla Adnan and Sajid Jat displayed the role of handlers to two terrorists who attacked the troops. Further, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander for South Kashmir, Abu Dujana arranged the local logistics.

Reports have pointed out that Khalid Waleed is being groomed by none other than the dreaded Hafiz Saeed himself to oversee LeT’s anti-India operations. Earlier, Waleed used to work for Saeed’s other terrorist organization, Jamaat-ud-Dawah (JuD) for a long period.

Pakistan’s involvement in the attacks became more clear as grenades, medicines, track suits and arms and ammunition procured from the dead terrorists contained ‘Pakistan Ordnance Factory’ markings.

A row had however erupted between CRPF and the army as both tried to take credit for repelling the attack. As the army claimed that it was their personnel who killed the terrorists, the CRPF lodged a protest against it for claiming wrong credit.

http://daily.bhaskar.com/news/TOP-pampore-terrorist-attack-5360495-PHO.html

 

[Signalian]

I guess the responses of India will be of non military ways such as India using its economic might to stifle Pakistan economically or isolating Pakistan or circumventing Pakistan thus denying its geographically advantage or even equipping Afghanistan to keep Pakistan's western border simmering. I can sense that already happening.

Indian cannot stifle Pakistan economically since China is heavily involved in providing assistance to Pakistan in many fields.40+ Billion $ investment by China is going towards CPEC inside Pakistan. This alone is giving an economic surge of 7% in 2016. After CPEC becomes operational, this will further rise continuously and India can completely forget about economically damaging Pakistan since Chinese interests lie in CPEC. Recently ,China invested 8.5 Billion$ in Railways and Gas projects in pakistan. China has provided 757 million $ interest free loans to Pakistan. The interest on other loans provided by China has been reduced from 3% to 1.6 % . Pakistan is also a member of ECO with Turkey,Iran and other countries. Pakistan has recently agreed to meet 500 million $ trade target with Tajikistan. This is just naming a few Plus the aid from US comes in some form or another.

India cannot isolate Pakistan since Pakistan is continuously allied with China , recently signed to join SCO as full fledged member. This alone gives access to Pakistan to make relations with Russia as well as other countries. Pakistan is also continuously allied with Gulf countries in field of defence training. Pakistan enjoys excellent relations with Srilanka, Turkey, Brazil etc. Pakistan is a member of atleast 62 International Organizations. So India can now forget about isolating Pakistan ever.

India can forget about circumventing Pakistan, as Pakistan is already circumventing Afghanistan and has thrown Afghanistan out of equation completely. Pakistan has signed QATT (China-Pak-Kyrgistan-Kazakhastan) to by pass Afghanistan already for its trade routes. This will help in CASA project of electricity also.Since Afghanistan was at loss siding with india as it doesnt have a port for trading and the closest port is Karachi, it gave up its foolish requests and gave permission of access to Pakistan for use of its territory as trade route in March 2016. Op Zarb e Azab and its aftermath of building Torkham gate and other measures taken on border with Afghanistan will neutralise Indian activities in damaging Pakistan through Afghanistan.

India loses it edge over Pakistan with each passing day.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Well, to be honest, after the last year's "don't count bullets" policy of India, the border has been relatively quiet.
I am not reading about the weekly misadventures from our neighbours, which used to be a norm two years before.

Now, they know the only thing they can do is covert...

 

[ito]

Indian cannot stifle Pakistan economically since China is heavily involved in providing assistance to Pakistan in many fields.40+ Billion $ investment by China is going towards CPEC inside Pakistan. This alone is giving an economic surge of 7% in 2016. After CPEC becomes operational, this will further rise continuously and India can completely forget about economically damaging Pakistan since Chinese interests lie in CPEC. Recently ,China invested 8.5 Billion$ in Railways and Gas projects in pakistan. China has provided 757 million $ interest free loans to Pakistan. The interest on other loans provided by China has been reduced from 3% to 1.6 % . Pakistan is also a member of ECO with Turkey,Iran and other countries. Pakistan has recently agreed to meet 500 million $ trade target with Tajikistan. This is just naming a few Plus the aid from US comes in some form or another.

India cannot isolate Pakistan since Pakistan is continuously allied with China , recently signed to join SCO as full fledged member. This alone gives access to Pakistan to make relations with Russia as well as other countries. Pakistan is also continuously allied with Gulf countries in field of defence training. Pakistan enjoys excellent relations with Srilanka, Turkey, Brazil etc. Pakistan is a member of atleast 62 International Organizations. So India can now forget about isolating Pakistan ever.

India can forget about circumventing Pakistan, as Pakistan is already circumventing Afghanistan and has thrown Afghanistan out of equation completely. Pakistan has signed QATT (China-Pak-Kyrgistan-Kazakhastan) to by pass Afghanistan already for its trade routes. This will help in CASA project of electricity also.Since Afghanistan was at loss siding with india as it doesnt have a port for trading and the closest port is Karachi, it gave up its foolish requests and gave permission of access to Pakistan for use of its territory as trade route in March 2016. Op Zarb e Azab and its aftermath of building Torkham gate and other measures taken on border with Afghanistan will neutralise Indian activities in damaging Pakistan through Afghanistan.

India loses it edge over Pakistan with each passing day.

China is not the answer to all your woos. India and China have their own dynamics...the annual trade itself is near $100 billion, more than twice value of CPEC. Don't come to the conclusion that China will back Pakistan against India. China in the end will look after its own self interest and not Pakistan's

 

[Signalian]

China is not the answer to all your woos. India and China have their own dynamics...the annual trade itself is near $100 billion, more than twice value of CPEC. Don't come to the conclusion that China will back Pakistan against India. China in the end will look after its own self interest and not Pakistan's

The conclusion you drew is your own assumption. The fact is that China will not give up on CPEC and it will remain a economic lifeline for the times to come for Pakistan. Historically and currently ,China, stood and stands with Pakistan. With CPEC as well as other projects, its ensured for future too.

 

[ito]

The conclusion you drew is your own assumption. The fact is that China will not give up on CPEC and it will remain a economic lifeline for the times to come for Pakistan. Historically and currently ,China, stood and stands with Pakistan. With CPEC as well as other projects, its ensured for future too.

CPEC is fraught with huge risks, not because India is trying to stifle it, but because it passes through P0K. India claims that territory. Even China and Pakistan agree that P0K is a disputed territory

 

[DesiGuy1403]

CPEC is fraught with huge risks, not because India is trying to stifle it, but because it passes through P0K. India claims that territory. Even China and Pakistan agree that P0K is a disputed territory

I am sorry but why would you think India WOULD NOT try and stifle it?

We will do darn best to reciprocate what the other side is doing to us.
I am a firm believer in golden rule.

 

[Signalian]

CPEC is fraught with huge risks, not because India is trying to stifle it, but because it passes through P0K. India claims that territory. Even China and Pakistan agree that P0K is a disputed territory

and isnt it amazing that it still continues with full pace. neither Pakistan nor China is backing off. CPEC is important for both countries and both acknowledge that. The huge investment by China is a testimony to this fact.