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If Pak withdraws support to us, war will be fought there: Salahudin

if anyone out here thinks that kashmir will ever be given freedom or will be merged in pakistan then he or she is definitely on drugs..... kashmir is important to india because of its strategic location..... it forms a defence wall.... if anyone thinks india will let go kashmir is really mad.... pakistan has nothing to do with kasmiri citizens ......... it wants kashmir so indias defence wall weakens....... keep dreaming about kashmir ..... not even a inch of land will be freed.... its high time kashmiris and pakistanis realise this.... the more they support millitants.... the more kashmiris will suffer.... thanx
 
if anyone out here thinks that kashmir will ever be given freedom or will be merged in pakistan then he or she is definitely on drugs..... kashmir is important to india because of its strategic location..... it forms a defence wall.... if anyone thinks india will let go kashmir is really mad.... pakistan has nothing to do with kasmiri citizens ......... it wants kashmir so indias defence wall weakens....... keep dreaming about kashmir ..... not even a inch of land will be freed.... its high time kashmiris and pakistanis realise this.... the more they support millitants.... the more kashmiris will suffer.... thanx

i think the inch brigade should be asked to sit down now. this type of uncompromising attitude wont work. one needs to give some to get something. just as india has an ego pak does too. we have roughly 50% of land on each side. for the sake of lasting peace it does not hurt to give up some thing, but as a face ssaver we can still retain , lets say a few districts in Valley , which I think is fair because kashmiri pandits are also natives of that land and define the border.i think thats th best solution.
What do Pakistanis think of drawing LOC as border?
my suggestion is simply this. Let things be as it is EXCEPT kashmir valley. give most of it to pak, except a 10-20% of valley
 
militants have no role in Kashmir their are just a menace created by Pakistan. one has to clear this menace, it's logical by the topic that they are not supporting anyone's agenda other than their own.

Pakistan shud dismantle them.
we are doing fine by protecting our citizens.
this threat shud be ended.
 
militants have no role in Kashmir their are just a menace created by Pakistan. one has to clear this menace, it's logical by the topic that they are not supporting anyone's agenda other than their own.

Pakistan shud dismantle them.
we are doing fine by protecting our citizens.
this threat shud be ended.
once you define clear intl borders, pak will not b able to send militants . if they do intl community will not stop india from attacking them as intl boundary has been violated. Pak would not have a reason to send trror into india.
how they manage their milits is their problem.
 
i think the inch brigade should be asked to sit down now. this type of uncompromising attitude wont work. one needs to give some to get something. just as india has an ego pak does too. we have roughly 50% of land on each side. for the sake of lasting peace it does not hurt to give up some thing, but as a face ssaver we can still retain , lets say a few districts in Valley , which I think is fair because kashmiri pandits are also natives of that land and define the border.i think thats th best solution.
What do Pakistanis think of drawing LOC as border?
my suggestion is simply this. Let things be as it is EXCEPT kashmir valley. give most of it to pak, except a 10-20% of valley

bro i respect ur thoughts......... but i can bet u this wont happen..... this uncompromising attitude is working.... and if pakistanis and kashmiris want themselves to suffer more..... they can keep on supporting terrorists..... indian army will work the way it is working..... india is a secular cntry if these kashmiri ppl feel that they want there ummah and all they can leave the valley and live peacefully in pakistans azad kashmir.... ever talk to kashmiri pundit .... they will tell u the plight they had to suffer due to these fundamentalist...... pakistan will be more than happy to accept those few fundamentalist kashmiris.... will u not pakistan???
 
i think the inch brigade should be asked to sit down now. this type of uncompromising attitude wont work. one needs to give some to get something. just as india has an ego pak does too. we have roughly 50% of land on each side. for the sake of lasting peace it does not hurt to give up some thing, but as a face ssaver we can still retain , lets say a few districts in Valley , which I think is fair because kashmiri pandits are also natives of that land and define the border.i think thats th best solution.
What do Pakistanis think of drawing LOC as border?
my suggestion is simply this. Let things be as it is EXCEPT kashmir valley. give most of it to pak, except a 10-20% of valley

sorry mate i disagree with you on this point . after all Kashmir is so entwined with our history , there is no way any part could be used as a settlement . now if you are saying to make the LOC into the IB , i guess i am ok with that . after all we in free India did not see any part of it since independence . they can have their Kashmir and we have ours. but to give away any part of what is now our Kashmir , would mean the country will go up in flames. its an emotive thing . while most of us haven't seen it , it still a place where thousands have died to keep it from Pakistan .

if we look at having lasting peace . i do not think thats possible for two reasons . if by chance , kashmir is settled then it will be sri creek . or the Raan , or saichen . also vested interests will never accept peace:)
 
once you define clear intl borders, pak will not b able to send militants . if they do intl community will not stop india from attacking them as intl boundary has been violated. Pak would not have a reason to send trror into india.
how they manage their milits is their problem.

bro u dont understand.... ask to any millitary personal he wud tell u how important is kashmir for india..... look towards kashmir as a strategic millitary asset then u will realize why pakistan is so much interested in kashmir..... not an inch will be given..... but yes present LOC can be or shud be declared international border
 
once you define clear intl borders, pak will not b able to send militants . if they do intl community will not stop india from attacking them as intl boundary has been violated. Pak would not have a reason to send trror into india.
how they manage their milits is their problem.
ur unable to understand the intention behind militancy ,creating a fake civil war is their agenda so that they claim it as so called indeginous freedom struggle.

its not possible for any Pakistani government to make loc international border as their whole politics is based on anti India sentiments.

militancy is pakistan originated but effects regional countries (India China Afghanistan) specially India so its not only their matter.
 
IF HE is truly a kashmiri freedom fighter he is rightly frustrated about PAK's stance. But i think PAK has her own weakness and vulnerability right now and is not in a dominant position on kashmir issue viv-vis india. It was a mistake by Ayub Khan to not have attacked
dehli in 1962, kashmiri muslims could have been easily freed back then. But now PAK should build up its own strength before
trying to back Kashmiri freedom fighters IMO. You can not fight on an empty stomach. The kashmiri freedom fighters should keep their trust and faith in Allah (swt) rather than talking about hurting their fellow Pakistani muslim brothers if they are truly muslims. Anybody inflicting
damage on their fellow muslim is a terrorist not a freedom fighter.
 
ISLAMABAD - Hizb-ul-Mujahideen chief Syed Salahuddin has vowed to turn the guns on Pakistan if it stops backing jihadis in Jammu and Kashmir who, he claimed, were fighting "Pakistan's war".
"We are fighting Pakistan's war in Kashmir and if it withdraws its support, the war would be fought inside Pakistan," said Salahuddin, who also heads the Muttahida Jihad Council.
Salahuddin made the remarks during an interview with Arab News while referring to a reduction of tensions in Jammu and Kashmir following several rounds of talks between India and Pakistan.
He said he was "desperate and agitated" with the new approach adopted by Pakistan in the peace process with India.
The report said the Pakistani political leadership's new approach for normalising relations with India had "stunned" Kashmiri leaders.
"Kashmir has been the key issue but now it has become peripheral as all claims of supporting our struggle politically, diplomatically and morally are nothing but lip service," Salahuddin claimed.
He said he believed that militancy alone is the solution to the Kashmir issues.
"All those who were involved in the so-called peace talks eventually admitted that India is not serious and that it gained more and more time to implement its own design for the region," he claimed.
Salahuddin said he believed the Pakistanis were silent because of the existing dichotomy on the Kashmir issue that has placed Islamabad in a dilemma on whether to support militancy or the peace process.
He said he further believed the Pakistani people must play a vital role in mounting pressure for the Kashmir cause and in forcing the government to withdraw its new approach, which is "hurting the Kashmir struggle".
He contended that the movement could not be wrapped up on the negotiation table.
"Who negotiated for the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan? Were there any talks in Iraq and Afghanistan? The US is compelled by the situation to withdraw its forces in the absence of any negotiation and we would follow the same strategy in Kashmir," he said.
Salahuddin said he believed that normalising trade and business with India would benefit only New Delhi and be counterproductive for Islamabad.
"Pakistan is doing all this without keeping its own interest as prime due to foreign and Western pressures without analyzing its disastrous consequences," he claimed.
 
bro u dont understand.... ask to any millitary personal he wud tell u how important is kashmir for india..... look towards kashmir as a strategic millitary asset then u will realize why pakistan is so much interested in kashmir..... not an inch will be given..... but yes present LOC can be or shud be declared international border
yes that crossed my mind. but we should get blanket assurance of no more demands. IWT should be scrapped.
Pak will not comment or have interest in affairs of Indian Muslims or things like mosques etc. Indian criminals housed in pak will be sent back. China will not have presence in pak for 99 years.
And other measures to safeguard our interests.
We should also assure them of our non interest in pay affairs. These are some thoughts

IF HE is truly a kashmiri freedom fighter he is rightly frustrated about PAK's stance. But i think PAK has her own weakness and vulnerability right now and is not in a dominant position on kashmir issue viv-vis india. It was a mistake by Ayub Khan to not have attacked
dehli in 1962, kashmiri muslims could have been easily freed back then. But now PAK should build up its own strength before
trying to back Kashmiri freedom fighters IMO. You can not fight on an empty stomach. The kashmiri freedom fighters should keep their trust and faith in Allah (swt) rather than talking about hurting their fellow Pakistani muslim brothers if they are truly muslims. Anybody inflicting

damage on their fellow muslim is a terrorist not a freedom fighter.
Mir. Jafars descendants should keep quiet. Don't poke your nose in our affair unless you are asking for your share of Kashmir

bro u dont understand.... ask to any millitary personal he wud tell u how important is kashmir for india..... look towards kashmir as a strategic millitary asset then u will realize why pakistan is so much interested in kashmir..... not an inch will be given..... but yes present LOC can be or shud be declared international border
yes that crossed my mind. but we should get blanket assurance of no more demands. IWT should be scrapped.
Pak will not comment or have interest in affairs of Indian Muslims or things like mosques etc. Indian criminals housed in pak will be sent back. China will not have presence in pak for 99 years.
And other measures to safeguard our interests.
We should also assure them of our non interest in pay affairs. These are some thoughts
 
ISI has no doubt made Pakistan Kurukshetra due to their extreme covert policies, but without diplomacy.
 
This is the same chap who would not let his own sons fight for jihad? lol
 
Mir. Jafars descendants should keep quiet. Don't poke your nose in our affair unless you are asking for your share of Kashmir

lol Mir.jafar was your greatest benefactor. He did all the damage he could to muslim Bengal and
benefited Hindu jamaidars and their english masters. Only bengalis and and subcontinental muslims
hate him and you being an indian is welcome to join us. The current Mir.Jafar descendants are
the awami indian dalals ruling BD. We bangladeshis hate mir.Jafar unlike Hindus in India. :)
 

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