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If JF-17 as good as the F-16.

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Ok fine we accept Pakistan is no where near great supa pawa USA. Are you happy you won the **** measuring contest? :lol:

Frankly I don't care. The post was merely to drive home a point to the chinese members here. No bod talks numbers and just plainly relies on photoshopped pics and offtopic posts to establish their coming off age
 
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Indians really showed their true face in this thread. What a focking big time losers you guys are . Your shit tejas didnt even make it to block 1 and Pakistan is working on block 2. Have some shame and give credit where JF deserve .

YOU FOCKING LOSERS !!!!!!

They are going to upgrade Tejas with upgrades from ancient India. They'll beat us for sure.
 
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Yes, the truth is that the Tejas is most powerful supa powa airplane in whole universe...Tejas can defeat the whole world. Tejas can fly in outer space...Tejas will take indians to Mars. Tejas can walk on water and turn jet fuel into wine. All hail the Tejas.
Tejas and Flying are reciprocal to each other :p
 
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Frankly I don't care. The post was merely to drive home a point to the chinese members here. No bod talks numbers and just plainly relies on photoshopped pics and offtopic posts to establish their coming off age

I think some us have to accept that Pakistan is a developing nation with financial constraints. Together with the war like situation we are in. Our government is surviving on loans from IMF. If PAF considers the JF-17 as good enough to meet its standards then I have no problem with that. As long as it maintains minimum defensive capabilities. I would rather see a decrease in the military budget to funnel resources to more important measures such health, education and infrastructure etc.

Why have you guys delayed the payment of the aid money? That money is going to the rehabilitation of the IDPs I believe, cmon Uncle Sam, you say we don't do enough and when we do you start playing double games.
 
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Yeah basically you are diplomatically saying that JF17 is sub par right ? :lol: That's what I thought,

No, I said PLAAF and PAF have different strategic needs ... OMG can't you read ... :cry::cry::cry:
You are implying that I said apple is sub par to orange .... WTF you are talking about ... LMAO ... :cheesy:
And hey where are the parameters that I just ordered you to provide? Go get it ... :coffee:
 
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I read some where that this plne equal to the block 40/42 of the famous f-16 any one read such thing?.

F16 Block 40/42 will have advantage in most areas. There are few things JF 17 will have advantage.

F16 Blk 40

1. More weapon load
2. More range and airborne time
3. Advance Data link
4. Maturity of systems resulting in reliability of weapons that have been tested in many conflicts
5. Very refined night attack capability

Disadvantages

1. Arguably expensive to buy
2. Weapons while proven to be effective are expensive to procure
3. You only get what West and US clears you. They only release weapons depending on how important you are to them.
4. A complicated system. You not only need a very advance, disciplined and skilled engineers and technicians but also a very good logistics system. Even then some systems can only be maintained our repaired by US. If they don't your fleet can not fly as often.
5. Advance weapons like precision stand off weapons, AMRAAM, Electronic warfare and Intelligence gathering pods are either not released or have conditions to them.

JF17

1. Turn performance, climb performance matches with F16
2. Ability to take same roles like medium range air to air missiles (lesser in number than F16), precision weapons for day and night attack.
3. Complete control over software means any weapon you get can be mounted unlike F16
4. Economical to buy, cheaper to maintain and fly
5. Easier for technicians and engineers to get use to
6. Advance glass cockpit compared to F16

In the end, it boils down to who is buying for what purpose. JF17 won't make sense to Sweden or Belgium. It makes a lot of sense to Pakistan, Iraq, Sri Lanka, Nigeria and Iran.

For those who will point out that China did not buy it, well F20 TigerShark was an excellent aircraft by Northrop. US did not but it. No other country bought it as well though some close to buying it. But anyone will tell you if he has an iota of knowledge of aircraft that it was an excellent fighter by any standards @gambit . UK is closest ally of US but never bought F16s, arguably most successful US fighter. Does it mean F16 is a crap?
 
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copy my ***, 80% of the country in the world can't make a F-22 in next 100 years even if US told them how to.
 
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China cannot legally by anything as they are under arms embargo.
The embargo only applies for US and EU. Israel on the other hand are best known for smuggling weapons to countries with an "arms embargo" and selling away friendly nation technologies to third parties.
 
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The embargo only applies for US and EU. Israel on the other hand are best known for smuggling weapons to countries with an "arms embargo" and selling away friendly nation technologies to third parties.

The only country exporting to China is Russia because they dont love US and EU. The Lavi was cancelled because of US pressure. US pressured Israel to cancel Phalcon deal and Green Pine radar. US has absolute control over Israel.
 
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The only country exporting to China is Russia because they dont love US and EU. The Lavi was cancelled because of US pressure. US pressured Israel to cancel Phalcon deal and Green Pine radar. US has absolute control over Israel.
US has control over Israel because the US supplies $3+ billion in direct aid and also gives subsidizes its military purchase and forces other EU nations to do so. Israel sells Western technologies to China and Russia through the black market to remain on their good side.
 
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