If India & China go on war who will win?

[Stephen Cohen]

Theoretically, both sides have chance, however, China has nothing to lose, India can't take the risk of lose, four tigers are staring at India, China, Pakistan, BD and Mynamar, if India lose a major war, Punjab and Kashmir will go to Pakistan, West Bangli and part of NE will go to BD, Myanmar will also get part of NE (Yes, Myanmar! I know you can't believe it). The simple issue here is, the chicken neck will not last very long in history, it's completely counter-intuition. That's why India always feel insecure and have a strong desire to expand to protect their chicken neck.

SO what are you waiting for

We have just beaten your 3000 men ; They are feeling very bad

Go ahead ; start a war

 

[Super Falcon]

If India goes on war with China Pak will strike India from northern borders and take most of Indian land and Jammu kashmir in Pakistan

India will be humiliated 8n both fronts

 

[soundHound]

It's hilarious to even think a war between India and China, even if it will be it will be fought over economics and not over gun powder. Lets assume if war break out, then it can go either way, but humanity will loose certainly 3bn people life on stake.

 

[waz]

Before 1962 ; India China relations were quite good

The whole thing flared up suddenly and un expectedly

You were unprepared and something you can't deal with.

Why would China tell anybody of its defeats and losses

PLA secret files must be having those details

Anyway why go back to 1967

Talk of 1987 ; when INSPITE of all Bluff and Bluster
China BACKED out from a Conflict

https://www.thequint.com/opinion/2017/06/30/operation-falcon-sundarji-took-china-by-surprise

What part of third party sources do you not understand? This is an Indian account by a "Manoj Joshi".

This stupid needling has Helped us to strengthen our capabilities
and also make Alliances with USA and Japan

So this net result speaks very poorly of Chinese Strategic thought and culture

Those countries will stand back and let you get punched around by the Chinese. Japan can't afford to fight any war and the US isn't going to get involved.

You should ask these Asian countries what they think of China

Some of them think well of China, some don't, that's politics for you.

That is just your opinion ; we are confident of our growing strength

Secondly we were vulnerable to China for a brief period from 2008 to 2011
Now we have " BEEFED " up our strength considerably

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It's not just my "opinion" but even a cursory glance at your relative military strength compared to China's shows how hopelessly mismatched you are. You also happen to be the greatest importer of weapons against a country that makes its own and has massively decreased its reliance of foreign weapons. That's not a great position to be in when a conflict breaks out, think sanctions.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

If India goes on war with China Pak will strike India from northern borders and take most of Indian land and Jammu kashmir in Pakistan

India will be humiliated 8n both fronts

Forget about Kashmir
Our Tanks are very desperate to enter Lahore and Sialkot

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

This stupid needling has Helped us to strengthen our capabilities and also make Alliances with USA and Japan

So this net result speaks very poorly of Chinese Strategic thought and culture
You should ask these Asian countries what they think of China

Oh sure India told China: give what we want and please us or else we will side with Japan and US, India just want to take advantage of China/US-Japan bad relation, China would never back down to such blackmail. You can claim that China made the poor strategic choice, but make China as enemy will not bring any good to India neither, we have more than match India in military parity.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

You were unprepared and something you can't deal with.



What part of third party sources do you not understand? This is an Indian account by a "Manoj Joshi".




Those countries will stand back and let you get punched around by the Chinese. Japan can't afford to fight any war and the US isn't going to get involved.




Some of them think well of China, some don't, that's politics for you.

It's not just my "opinion" but even a cursory glance at your relative military strength compared to China's shows how hopelessly mismatched you are. You also happen to be the greatest importer of weapons against a country that makes its own and has massively decreased its reliance of foreign weapons. That's not a great position to be in when a conflict breaks out, think sanctions.[/QUOTE]
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You have your opinions ; I have mine

But facts speak for themselves

I really want to know ; WHAT PREVENTS China and Pakistan to attack India

What is it that your Government and Army Knows but you do not know
about India's capabilities

 

[Ajaxpaul]

If India goes on war with China Pak will strike India from northern borders and take most of Indian land and Jammu kashmir in Pakistan

India will be humiliated 8n both fronts

How many times are you going to humiliated ???....Pakistan entered indian territory and could not do anything. Ran away leaving their dead.

 

[武成王]

SO what are you waiting for
We have just beaten your 3000 men ; They are feeling very bad
Go ahead ; start a war

Try to keep your soldiers inside China territory, don't retreat if you have gut. Don't talk like a lion however act like a cat.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

How many times are you going to humiliated ???....Pakistan entered indian territory and could not do anything. Ran away leaving their dead.

And China DID not lift even a Finger in Kargil

While India was fighting from within our own territory
Next time we would simply cross the LOC and hit directly

Try to keep your soldiers inside China territory, don't retreat if you have gut. Don't talk like a lion however act like a cat.

Right Now our soldiers are inside YOUR Territory

You can evict them if you want

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Try to keep your soldiers inside China territory, don't retreat if you have gut. Don't talk like a lion however act like a cat.

We are not greedy for your land...Why would we be in your land ? What we stand on is not chinese land.

And China DID not lift even a Finger in Kargil

While India was fighting from within our own territory
Next time we would simply cross the LOC and hit directly



Right Now our soldiers are inside YOUR Territory

You can evict them if you want

China must be nuts to fight somebody's war...Lol.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

You were unprepared and something you can't deal with.

If you think carefully and Deeply
1962 LED to Pakistan's overconfidence and defeat in 1965

For India ; just a huge turn around in just Three years was Awesome

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

I hope things escalate, though i do not foresee the PLA penetrating into India beyond 100km of the LAC.

Afterall, the main objective is to liberate South Tibet.

Time to settle the boundary question once n 4 all.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Good Question

This started after 26/11 attacks on Mumbai ; That was 2008

India could have retaliated but
Chinese threats against India were very strident at that point of time

So we had to Re draw our strategy as to a possible two front War
In 2009 we officially came out with a Two Front Scenario

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ne-for-Pakistan-China/articleshow/5392683.cms

Army reworks war doctrine for Pakistan, China
Also after 2008 ; The Global financial Crisis had made China's Position
Very Strong

China was being looked at as the Number Two power

Around this time ie 2009 ; China's disputes with ALL Neighbours increased
Including India ie Chinese Patrols coming in more frequently

So India took countermeasures and from 2012 onwards
ie in three years we had made substantial increase in our capabilities

Good explanation but still not convincing that India less vulnerable after 2011, if I recall correctly our J-20/J31 started to fly after 2011, our military increase with double digits, our floating casino +J15 are on experiment stage, and we build 052D destroyers at exponential rate...In contrary I think India is much safer 2008-2011 because China was still operated 1960 and 70s vintage aircrafts and boats such as J-7, J-8 and few hundred J-11, we didn't have a decent military equipment to counter India.

 

[Beast]

And China DID not lift even a Finger in Kargil

While India was fighting from within our own territory
Next time we would simply cross the LOC and hit directly



Right Now our soldiers are inside YOUR Territory

You can evict them if you want

Its a matter of time. You need patience. If there is no other world opinion. Those Indian soldiers will be longed dead.