Idea of India wasn’t demolished at Ayodhya. That happened in our ‘liberal’ homes

[Novice09]

@Joe Shearer

Please don't blame liberals for the wrong doings of PEACEFULS...

Other religions are open for joke and humor... on the name of FREEDOM OF SPEECH... but head would be chopped off, public property would be burned down to ashes, riots would be programmed and innocent would be killed... If, you know...

Example...
https://khabar.ndtv.com/news/india/...relative-of-congress-mla-in-bengaluru-2278053


Hindus fought a legal case... won... and now construction is started... DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL WAY...

Who gave space to BJP... extreme appeasement of PEACEFULS by opposition... one of the main reasons...

 

[Novice09]

So liberals destroyed secular India?

I thought liberals were lynched and silenced in India.

No... selected secularism and people who use secularism in a HYPOCRITICAL MANNER...

 

[El Sidd]

No... selected secularism and people who use secularism in a HYPOCRITICAL MANNER...

How would you propose a return to normality so that people like Modi don't become PM?

 

[Novice09]

How would you propose a return to normality so that people like Modi don't become PM?

1. Strong and least corrupt opposition
2. UCC
3. No appeasement

And most important REAL SECULARISM... WITHOUT THAT you might see Yogi Adityanath as next PM...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Please don't blame liberals for the wrong doings of PEACEFULS...

Liberals are not to blame for the wrong-doing of Muslims.

Liberals are very much to blame for the wrong-doings of Hindus.

You happen to be facing the wrong way in this discussion.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Other religions are open for joke and humor... on the name of FREEDOM OF SPEECH... but head would be chopped off, public property would be burned down to ashes, riots would be programmed and innocent would be killed... If, you know...

Example...
https://khabar.ndtv.com/news/india/...relative-of-congress-mla-in-bengaluru-2278053

Your point being?

Muslims take their religion seriously, more seriously than, in your opinion, or in the opinion of many others, including myself, they should.

So they are fair game?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Hindus fought a legal case... won... and now construction is started... DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL WAY...

This is the most hypocritical thing of all.

You are, presumably, familiar with the case, and how it was developed. Do you call that a fair judgement? Do you call the destruction of the original mosque democratic and constitutional? Would the judgement have been possible at all if the illegal destruction of the mosque, with the collusion of the state government and of the central government, had not taken place?

Or is it your case that the destruction was also democratic and constitutional?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Who gave space to BJP... extreme appeasement of PEACEFULS by opposition... one of the main reasons...

Excellent; you get better and better on every reading.

Muslims are appeased by the opposition (who were, of course, not the opposition then; who had 80% of the popular vote in normal times); therefore, the BJP is given votes; therefore, the destruction of the mosque is justified with retrospective effect, and the coercion of the court is in some way legitimised?

 

[Joe Shearer]

1. Strong and least corrupt opposition
2. UCC
3. No appeasement

How does the lack of these justify illegal actions by the government in power?

 

[Joe Shearer]

And most important REAL SECULARISM... WITHOUT THAT you might see Yogi Adityanath as next PM...

Real secularism as in the Delhi riots, and in the inflammatory speeches leading to those?
Real secularism as in the case of Kafeel Khan, who spent his own money to save children, and finds himself in a Kafkaesque nightmare?
Real secularism as in the administration's scissors of the CAA and the NRC?
Real secularism as in the assaults on Muslims suspected of transporting cows for slaughter?

Which of these do you define as real secularism?

 

[Joe Shearer]

No... selected secularism and people who use secularism in a HYPOCRITICAL MANNER...

Fascinating.

So in your view, using secularism in a hypocritical way justifies the assaults on a community?

I have to wonder at the kind of warped and demented logic that your posts display.

 

[Rakesh]

I have read many times this phrase "appeasement of Muslims". What is this appeasement of Muslims ?
Can any one elaborate/give details ?

 

[Novice09]

I have read many times this phrase "appeasement of Muslims". What is this appeasement of Muslims ?
Can any one elaborate/give details ?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...z-in-public-areas.631217/page-2#post-11700253

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/worl...rol-of-fascist-ik.631774/page-2#post-11710065

GENOCIDE And EXODUS of Kashmiri pundits... best example...

 

[Novice09]

Fascinating.

So in your view, using secularism in a hypocritical way justifies the assaults on a community?

I have to wonder at the kind of warped and demented logic that your posts display.

No... hypocrisy leads to distrust... and as said by a BUDDHIST MONK -- "You can be full of kindness and love, but you cannot sleep next to a mad dog"...

burning public property, killing innocents and planning for riots... on social media posts, atrocities on Muslims IN MYANMAR, CAA... justifies everything for peacefuls... I think...

 

[Rakesh]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...z-in-public-areas.631217/page-2#post-11700253

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/worl...rol-of-fascist-ik.631774/page-2#post-11710065

GENOCIDE And EXODUS of Kashmiri pundits... best example...

Are you suggesting, whenever there was a crime involving Muslims, police didn't take action ?
Sorry, it is not the case.
now, I repeat the question. What is Muslim appeasement ?


https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/muslims-daliots-undertrials-in-prison-ncrb-3734362/

Muslims make up 15.8% of all convicts and 20.9% of all undertrials in jails across the country. This is higher than their share in the country’s population, which is 14.2%. But in some states, this gap is far wider. According to latest data on prisons by the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), in 2015, in states such as Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, the percentage of Muslims in the incarcerated population was almost thrice the percentage of Muslims in the overall population.

Muslims, who are 11.5% of the population of Maharashtra, made up 30% of all undertrials in the state. The gap widened in 2015 from what it had been a year earlier — in 2014, Muslim undertrials made up 26% of all undertrials in Maharashtra.

In states such as West Bengal, Gujarat and Rajasthan, Muslims have almost double the share of undertrial populations in prisons than their share in the populations of the states....................