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The SoP-18 Tejas fighter will have a turn-around time between missions of 14 minutes

In New Delhi on September 23, decades of friction came to an end when key stakeholders in the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) finally agreed on the specifications of a fighter that would join the Indian Air Force (IAF) in large numbers, starting in 2018-19.

Termed “Standard of Preparation - 2018” (SoP-18), these specifications were agreed between four agencies. Besides the IAF, they include the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), which oversees the Tejas programme; Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), which builds the fighter, and the ministry of defence (MoD).

SoP-18 involves four major, and several minor, improvements. As Business Standard reported yesterday (“Cutting edge Israeli radar wins air force approval for Tejas fighter”), a crucial enhancement in the SoP-18 Tejas will be “active electronically scanned array” (AESA) radar, which Israeli company, Elbit, will develop with HAL.

Besides AESA radar, the SoP-18 Tejas will be equipped with the capability for air-to-air refuelling; a “self-protection jammer” (SPJ) mounted in an external pod to confuse enemy radar, and an improved layout of internal systems to ease maintenance.

HAL is currently building 20 Tejas fighters to the initial operational certification (IOC) standard. HAL chief, T Suvarna Raju says, over the next three years, production will ramp up from four aircraft this year; to seven in 2016-17; and eight in 2017-18, thus completing the order for 20 IOC fighters. From 2018-19 onwards, 16 SoP-18 Tejas fighters will roll off the line each year.

“Ramping up production to 16 Tejas per year will cost us about Rs 1,252 crore. We have mutually agreed that HAL will provide half the cost, and the IAF and navy will together pay the other half,” says Raju.

Meanwhile, ADA will continue developing the Tejas Mark II, replacing the current General Electric F-404IN engine with a new GE F-414 engine. The IAF remains sceptical about the Tejas Mark II, but the navy is certain the Tejas must have the more powerful F-414 engine to enable it to get airborne from short aircraft carrier decks.

That means that, along with the SoP-18 Tejas that would remain in production till 2024-25, the Naval Tejas Mark II would have to be somehow produced alongside.

Air-to-Air refuelling

The integration of air-to-air refuelling has been regarded as essential to give the Tejas enough reach. Currently, its internal tanks carry just 2,300 litres of fuel, with another 2,400 litres carried in external pods. However, external pods cannot be carried into battle, and they take up two weapon stations, reducing the fighter’s punch. Without external fuel tanks, the Tejas has a combat radius of barely 300 kilometres.

Air-to-air refuelling will step up combat radius to 500 kilometres. Towards that, a late prototype of the Tejas, numbered LSP-8, was fitted with an external fuel probe. This is being integrated and will soon undergo flight-testing.

Says a veteran fighter pilot: “As important than the ability to fight is the ability to turn up at the fight. That requires long legs and, for a light fighter, that requires air-to-air refuelling”.

External jammer pod

Tejas designers admit the absence of a jammer to throw enemy radar off the scent is a key vulnerability of the Tejas. While designing the fighter, they simply ran out of space for an internal jammer. With the IAF dropping its insistence on an internal jammer, ADA and HAL have now offered an “external jammer pod”.

While this threatened to reduce the Tejas’ weapons carriage by occupying one of its seven hard points, HAL is overcoming that problem by fitting a “twin-arm” at that hard point. “One of the arms will carry the jammer, while the other will mount an air-to-air missile”, says the designer.

Maintainability

For the IAF, which must mount multiple missions everyday with each Tejas fighter, easy “maintainability” and “low turn-around-time” are key attributes. The HAL chief says the IAF wants the fighter to take maximum 14 minutes between landing after a mission; and taking off for the next mission, fully checked, rearmed and refuelled. Currently, the Tejas takes about 20 minutes.

“The IAF has carried out a ‘maintainability evaluation’ on the Tejas, and provided requests for action (RFAs) to HAL. Each RFA deals with a particular way to improve maintenance. We will be making 27 modifications in the fighter”, says Raju.

The Tejas already has built-in-test-equipment (BITE), which is a software programme that automatically checks the functionality of every crucial system. In case an aircraft system is not working optimally, the BITE flashes a warning light.

On the other hand, if no warning lights are evident, maintenance engineers know that all systems are working satisfactorily. The need to check each one manually is no longer there.

This also involves fitting “pressure refuelling” of the kind that exists in Formula One racing cars, which requires fuel to be pumped under pressure into the fuel tanks. Refuelling the Tejas takes just four minutes, and two more to fill drop tanks as well.
 
SOP 18 aircraft shall be a very potent aircraft. It will have aerodynamic improvement, it will be more agile, it will be fast, it shall accelerate very fast, it will be light and shall carry more payload. It will have more fuel and it will be more fuel efficient.

It will have EW and AESA as well.
 
15 wills:rofl::rofl::rofl::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

SOP 18 aircraft shall be a very potent aircraft. It will have aerodynamic improvement, it will be more agile, it will be fast, it shall accelerate very fast, it will be light and shall carry more payload. It will have more fuel and it will be more fuel efficient.

It will have EW and AESA as well.
7 wills,nice will
 
SOP 18 aircraft shall be a very potent aircraft. It will have aerodynamic improvement, it will be more agile, it will be fast, it shall accelerate very fast, it will be light and shall carry more payload. It will have more fuel and it will be more fuel efficient.

It will have EW and AESA as well.

Definitely looks like it..AESA radars on 200 fighters is a big surprise. Would be great when Israel is on board...They work on a joint amca development.
 
15 wills:rofl::rofl::rofl::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:


7 wills,nice will

Wills of today and reality of 2017-18. Wou will have nothing to counter it. This small plane shall carry 4.0 tons and fly in Himalays with lethal weapons like R 77, Astra, Paython etc with mini brahmos. It shall fire a missile at your plane before even you can see it.
 
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The SoP-18 Tejas fighter will have a turn-around time between missions of 14 minutes

What was the previous turn-around time, 24 hours?

Besides AESA radar, the SoP-18 Tejas will be equipped with the capability for air-to-air refuelling; a “self-protection jammer” (SPJ) mounted in an external pod to confuse enemy radar, and an improved layout of internal systems to ease maintenance.

Every blind bhakt of HAL/DRDO/PSU needs to be tagged so that the fools know that LCA lacks every basic feature of a modern aircraft.
 
What was the previous turn-around time, 24 hours?

As usual farty is choo cute.

That 14 minutes is best case scenario. Multiple things can happen when sortie rates are being considered. Plane is perfectly maintained. Now assume, this is the case, then what ammunition are you going to load? Dumb bomb or guided. If guided it will take more time. can the missile be hoisted up my engineers or if it requires special equipment. Is the mission parameter same as last time. What is the fatigue level of the pilot? If this pilot is fatigued is the next pilot certified to be using the said missiles. 100s of things can go wrong.

So 14 is best case scenario. And as usual farty did not read. It said 20 minutes.
 
As usual farty is choo cute.

That 14 minutes is best case scenario. Multiple things can happen when sortie rates are being considered. Plane is perfectly maintained. Now assume, this is the case, then what ammunition are you going to load? Dumb bomb or guided. If guided it will take more time. can the missile be hoisted up my engineers or if it requires special equipment. Is the mission parameter same as last time. What is the fatigue level of the pilot? If this pilot is fatigued is the next pilot certified to be using the said missiles. 100s of things can go wrong.

So 14 is best case scenario. And as usual farty did not read. It said 20 minutes.

If currently ; it can be done in 20 minutes then definitely there is a
room for improvement

We shall hear about it in Iron Fist 2016 exercise
 
@samlove

For a long time a certain FAKE Indian Patriot has been relentlessly
trolling against India's efforts to build indigeneous weapons

He should be boycotted and put on the Ignore List

Cry some more, I want to see you ruined in tears.

So 14 is best case scenario. And as usual farty did not read. It said 20 minutes.

So your name in Hindu means farty? Shoo off disgusting creature or I will shove beef down your throat.

That 14 minutes is best case scenario. Multiple things can happen when sortie rates are being considered. Plane is perfectly maintained. Now assume, this is the case, then what ammunition are you going to load? Dumb bomb or guided. If guided it will take more time. can the missile be hoisted up my engineers or if it requires special equipment. Is the mission parameter same as last time. What is the fatigue level of the pilot? If this pilot is fatigued is the next pilot certified to be using the said missiles. 100s of things can go wrong.

So in you farty's infinite intelligence the only time consumed for a plane in between sorties is the work of ammunition and fuel loading? Measures like maintenance and repair do not count? Do dumb dumbs like you know that aircraft need constant maintenance after certain time of flying (which differs from aircraft to aircraft)?

"Fatigued pilot"? :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

You stupid, there are always more pilots than the number of fighter aircraft in every air force. Israel once had a ratio of 3:1 that is 3 pilots for every jet, in no air force is the ratio 1:1.

If the next pilot is not "certified" then he has no place in the airforce. Problem is you gullible fools watch too much movies. Such a waste of a fart.
 
Why the heck does it need air to air refueling when it is going to be defensive fighter ? Its not going on a long rang bombing or for deep penetration strike behind the enemy lines. It seems air force wants keep on throwing road blocks until they get phoren maal.

At this rate the country will go bust and we will be staring at economic disaster. These military ppl are the same guys who ask for OROP but they fail to understand where the money comes from.
@samlove
For a long time a certain FAKE Indian Patriot has been relentlessly
trolling against India's efforts to build indigeneous weapons
He should be boycotted and put on the Ignore List
Ignore him he is from a different country where they print money at their whims & fancies.
 
What was the previous turn-around time, 24 hours?



Every blind bhakt of HAL/DRDO/PSU needs to be tagged so that the fools know that LCA lacks every basic feature of a modern aircraft.
Why don't you make a habbit of going through the entire article before speaking anything...

But FYI according to this article currently Lca Tejas turn around time is around 20 minutes.....
 
@samlove

For a long time a certain FAKE Indian Patriot has been relentlessly
trolling against India's efforts to build indigeneous weapons

He should be boycotted and put on the Ignore List

@waz Can you warn this Fake Poster

If currently ; it can be done in 20 minutes then definitely there is a
room for improvement

We shall hear about it in Iron Fist 2016 exercise

What is the turnout time of other fighter planes like JF-17 @MastanKhan @irfan baluch

I heard for MKI its around 8 sorties per day during peace time.
 

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