IAF wants aerial refuelling, jammers, quick turnaround in new Tejas

[surya kiran]

If I say the sun is a star and you call it a planet it does not means you have disproved anything. It only shows that your brain is underdeveloped and you are a retard.

In the same way your comments are full of rants and incoherent ramblings which has no base in reality. You may believe anything you want, you may even believe hat LCA is better than F-22 but it does not make a difference. So keep your opinion to yourself child.

Oh fartie. Again not answering. Just answer all your facts and point mistakes in argument. No general ranting you naughty fartie.

 

[illusion8]

[QUOTE ="Indian Patriot, post: 7818383, member: 164236"]If facts are jarring to your nerve then it shows your weak character. And this is a public forum not your home, so maintain some decency.[/QUOTE]

The poster I replied to had an opinion about you for which I described what I think of it..I am perfectly within my rights in telling him what I think.

 

[Mike_Brando]

15 wills


7 wills,nice will

At least we didn't shamelessly copy it like your chini brethren

 

[Indian Patriot]

One needs to be factual and should have first hand knowledge before making such general statements.

Factual? I will give you some facts.

1. LCA was meant as a Mig-21 replacement and it is yet to be given the green light by IAF.
2. LCA took 32 years in the making and it still has 57 deficiencies
3. LCA has no EW suite
4. LCA has no modern radar. Forget AESA, LCA does not even have a radar that can track and lock on to BVR targets.
5. LCA cannot fire BVR missiles
6. LCA has a very limited combat radius of 300-400 km.
7. LCA lacks mid-air refueling capability
8. LCA is useless in strike role and in air defense it is vulnerable to frontline aircraft like PAF F-16 and Chinese Sukhoi-30.

The above are FACTS.

You need to visit a defense psu first and interact with a few there to draw any conclusion.

I don't need to visit any PSU. As an Indian I am paying taxes and the PSUs are wasting them. I need those suckers to have accounability instead of wasting 30-40 years in building tanks, arty guns and aircraft.

By the way the engine, radar (to be inducted in future models), missiles in LCA are all imported. Soif critical technologies for Indian aircraft, tank and other weapon systems have to be imported then what is the logic of wasting 30 years of time and public money?

The poster I replied to had an opinion about you for which I described what I think of it..I am perfectly within my rights in telling him what I think.

You are in your rights to tell him what you think but as I said this is not your home where you can talk as you like. This is a public forum and you will maintain decency. I can also tell a lot of things about you or your family so let's not go down that road and keep things civil.

 

[MilSpec]

why don't you guys just put this troll on your ignore list, whn one replies to his idiotic rants, it's just encouragement for him.

 

[Mike_Brando]

What was the previous turn-around time, 24 hours?



Every blind bhakt of HAL/DRDO/PSU needs to be tagged so that the fools know that LCA lacks every basic feature of a modern aircraft.

R e bhai cut your crap for once.Have you done anything useful to this country other than destroying it's food since your birth.Personally i don't think you are qualified enough to question the scientists of DRDO/HAL let alone criticize them otherwise you would have been working there rather than spending hours in this forum writing your useless craps!!

 

[Indian Patriot]

Oh fartie. Again not answering. Just answer all your facts and point mistakes in argument. No general ranting you naughty fartie.

Oh sh1tty. You seem to have lost your way from home and wandered into a civilised part of the internet. So why don't you look for your mama and take your stench away from here?

Now if you ask in a nice manner then papa will oblige. But first go home and learn manners. PDF is not a place for destitute street children. Get an education, learn some basic decency from your parents and do your homework. Then you have the right to ask questions. Capiche kid?

R e bhai cut your crap for once.Have you done anything useful to this country other than destroying it's food since your birth.Personally i don't think you are qualified enough to question the scientists of DRDO/HAL let alone criticize them otherwise you would have been working there rather than spending hours in this forum writing your useless craps

And what have you done for your country other than contributing to the national gobar gas scheme?

why don't you guys just put this troll on your ignore list, whn one replies to his idiotic rants, it's just encouragement for him

Must be tough on you when someone exposes the failures of DRDO and busts your fantasy bubble.

 

[illusion8]

Factual? I will give you some facts.

1. LCA was meant as a Mig-21 replacement and it is yet to be given the green light by IAF.
2. LCA took 32 years in the making and it still has 57 deficiencies
3. LCA has no EW suite
4. LCA has no modern radar. Forget AESA, LCA does not even have a radar that can track and lock on to BVR targets.
5. LCA cannot fire BVR missiles
6. LCA has a very limited combat radius of 300-400 km.
7. LCA lacks mid-air refueling capability
8. LCA is useless in strike role and in air defense it is vulnerable to frontline aircraft like PAF F-16 and Chinese Sukhoi-30.

The above are FACTS.



I don't need to visit any PSU. As an Indian I am paying taxes and the PSUs are wasting them. I need those suckers to have accounability instead of wasting 30-40 years in building tanks, arty guns and aircraft.

By the way the engine, radar (to be inducted in future models), missiles in LCA are all imported. Soif critical technologies for Indian aircraft, tank and other weapon systems have to be imported then what is the logic of wasting 30 years of time and public money?



You are in your rights to tell him what you think but as I said this is not your home where you can talk as you like. This is a public forum and you will maintain decency. I can also tell a lot of things about you or your family so let's not go down that road and keep things civil.

If you go back to when I replied to your posts, you will see that I contested your point that lca cannot even fly or cannot even fly properly. Which is factually wrong because I witness it fly above regularly..

The other shortcomings...no one said that lca has issues..Some major some minor..you are perfectly in your rights to question the psu ' s..but calling people on a forum as fools and bakhts isn't going to get you any answers. The answers if you seek them honestly is to seek them from the source directly. .For which my offer for you to take a visit to the source...The lca test facility.

You are on the verge of being ignored. I am just waiting to see if you take up the offer.

 

[MilSpec]

Must be tough on you when someone exposes the failures of DRDO and busts your fantasy bubble.

Not really, why should it be tough on me. People here are happy that some modifications are happening to make LCA bridge the gap between current config to desired config. You seem be quite hurt by that, and thus vomitting your guts our here. I am just enjoying your pain.

continue with your rants,

 

[surya kiran]

Oh sh1tty. You seem to have lost your way from home and wandered into a civilised part of the internet. So why don't you look for your mama and take your stench away from here?

Now if you ask in a nice manner then papa will oblige. But first go home and learn manners. PDF is not a place for destitute street children. Get an education, learn some basic decency from your parents and do your homework. Then you have the right to ask questions. Capiche kid?

After 3 months fartie darling, this is what you come up with? Please please answer your facts! I pray to you, in all your glory answer the following facts you stated. Pretty please. Or else just admit you are a LIAR!

1. Nag is 4th generation
2. Artillery was not placed on hold by GoI
3. Kaveri was never sanctioned
4. Arjun CAG report does not exist and when provided with link does not read
5. Warhead and seeker differentiation is unheard of
6. IA procurement procedure is God's gift to mankind.
7. Does not know, that tenders which were only private sector were never fulfilled.
8. Zero information on production lines and how production planning happens.
9. There is no difference between designer and manufacturer.

Now either man up and prove your above 'facts' with proof or just admit it you are not papa but just confused between papa and mama.

 

[Indian Patriot]

If you go back to when I replied to your posts, you will see that I contested your point that lca cannot even fly or cannot even fly properly

Test flight and combat sorties are different things. The LCA you see flying is still in the prototype or limited series production. Let it get inducted first in squadron numbers and then we can talk.

The other shortcomings...no one said that lca has issues..Some major some minor..you are perfectly in your rights to question the psu ' s..but calling people on a forum as fools and bakhts isn't going to get you any answers.

People who are blind supporters of an organisation against proven facts will be addressed as bhakts.

The answers if you seek them honestly is to seek them from the source directly. .For which my offer for you to take a visit to the source...The lca test facility.

My source is the media. If you prove to me that the mediais deliberately trying to sabotage LCA and presenting wrong figures then I will take up your offer.

Not really, why should it be tough on me. People here are happy that some modifications are happening to make LCA bridge the gap between current config to desired config. You seem be quite hurt by that, and thus vomitting your guts our here. I am just enjoying your pain.

continue with your rants,

Modifications are not happening, it has been claimed by the PSUs that the next batch of LCA will be better and will have EW suite, AESA Radar (the name is Uttam I believe), BVR missile firing capability, "indigenous" BVR missiles, mid-air refueling capability etc. Anybody who has even read very little about aeronautics will understand that for a newbie like HAL who has little to zero experience in manufacturing the above components will take at least 2 decades to come up with their prototypes. But since we are all in a hurry the EW suite, Radar etc. will have to be imported which negates the very purpose for which LCA was sanctioned - to create SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

But PSU employees are a bunch of unprofessional retards and we all know that.

I am hurt because for 32 years the incompetent losers of the PSUs have been wasting public money and if accounability is not demanded from them then hey will waste another 32 years and compromise India's security measures.

Now don't tell me you believe that HAL can create top-of-the-line EW suite, AESA radar, BVR missiles in less than 2 decades.

 

[surya kiran]

 

[Hindustani78]

Sources told ET that a high powered committee on acquisitions is set to clear a Rs 4,250-crore project to Russia for the upgrade and enhancement of the air force's transport fleet of IL 78 and 76 aircraft. The project will not only increase the service life of the aircraft by up to 20 years but will also give both aircraft enhanced avionics.

More importantly, the upgrade will also involve fitting new engines to six of the IL 78 midair refuelers that will give the aircraft a longer range as well as the capability to carry extra fuel. The Indian fleet is likely to be fitted with new PS 90 engines that can increase the load carrying capability by almost two tonne. The air force has been particularly worried about its midair refuelers with a contract to purchase new generation tankers from Airbus under the Multi Role Tanker Transport (MRTT) project stuck for over two years on pricing issues.

The other Russia-linked project likely to be cleared is for the purchase of 150 BMP 2/2K armoured fighting vehicles for the Indian Army. The project, worth Rs 950 crore, will be executed in India by the Ordnance Factory Board on license from Russia.

 

[Indian Patriot]

After 3 months fartie darling, this is what you come up with? Please please answer your facts! I pray to you, in all your glory answer the following facts you stated. Pretty please. Or else just admit you are a LIAR!

Now now cerelac baby, you still have not learned basic manners. Papa is disappointed. Now go home and learn basic manners first or don't come here and pollute PDF with your stench. If you learnt nothing then go to your neighbour's place, maybe hey can help

 

[illusion8]

Test flight and combat sorties are different things. The LCA you see flying is still in the prototype or limited series production. Let it get inducted first in squadron numbers and then we can talk.



People who are blind supporters of an organisation against proven facts will be addressed as bhakts.



My source is the media. If you prove to me that the mediais deliberately trying to sabotage LCA and presenting wrong figures then I will take up your offer.

Defense PSUs are bad when it comes to projecting themselves in media..plus..media isn't interested in reporting mundane details. .rather media looks for sensationalist news to sell..you won't find media persons covering what happens routinely on a day to day basis at every factory.

Everyone has issues with how the PSUs operate. .you aren't any different...I have severe criticism for NAL for the way they have handled a single project for the last 20 years...and I personally have seen how the operate...HAL isn't the picture of perfection..lca has been mocked from a decade now..but what one witnesses is its taking taking a turn for the better.