IAF Pilot Served Tea in PAF Officers Mess !

[aiman_hashmi.25]

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[coffee_cup]

Please think things through before jumping up as if someone had exploded a firecracker under your seat.

I am not defending or attacking the official response but just pointing out some facts, as a bystander with neither official standing nor access to anything other than regular news items, that I have read or listened to in the past.

The first report was that Kulbhushan Yadav had been detected and arrested within Pakistani territory, on suspicion of being an Indian espionage agent. If he had been a genuine agent, GoI would have known everything about him. If he had not, it is difficult to understand what immediate reaction there could have been. Were we to have deduced from that initial report that he was actually located in Iran and had been kidnapped from there? Is it too difficult to believe that in the normal course of things, if he had actually been not the kind of James Bond figure that has been painted, to find what the man had done after the Navy, and was doing currently, at the time of the report, might take some time. On finding that he had been in Iran when last reported, what should have been the reaction? To tell the Government of Iran that an ex-naval officer trading out of the territory had been detained by Pakistan? With what authority, and on what standing? He was not there on official duty, if you bear with me, and continue to follow the line of reasoning that quite possibly took place. Second, how was GoI to assess the truthfulness of the false passport story? Just on the say-so of the official information from the Government of Pakistan? Presumably there needed to be some basic investigation of the existence of a passport issued to Hussain Mubarik Patel, and it's being issued under the auspices of an intelligence agency to the retired officer Yadav?



Might I point out without disturbing you the way my initial post had done that your outline of action that you might expect the Government of India to have taken is entirely consistent with the behaviour of a guilty authority, and that it is also entirely inconsistent with the behaviour of an authority trying to find out what was going on, with not the slightest cooperation of a Pakistani administration that has to date refused even to share the sentence of the military court?

My basic argument can be summed up in one sentence: Apply Occam's Razor.



Please feel completely free to say whatever occurs to you, and do not stifle your feelings and suppress your reactions. It would normally be up to us to judge each other by our words first, and then, circumstances permitting, by our actions. If what you wish to say is what you have stated is what you might have said but didn't, that is rather deflective, is it not? If I had been in your apparent mood of ascribing religious and civilisational values to the other person's words and actions, I might have agreed with you that these could be interpreted as typical of each other, and suggested that you were practising, or extolling 'takfiri'. Would you consider that as a fair accusation? Or would you, as I do, think of these as the shortcomings of an administration and not of a culture or a religion? The distinction is not difficult.

The most painful part of your post was your seemingly deliberate brushing aside the sharp contrast between the deception that the Government of Pakistan resorts to, habitually, and as a practice, of concealing evidence, of destroying evidence, of doing away with witnesses, of intimidating witnesses and generally of distorting the course of justice. Exactly these things have happened in my country, too; unlike you, and unlike your fellow citizens, save those who have formed a movement to protest these and been despised for it, we have a strong section of civil society united in condemning these administrative and political attempts at manipulation.

Painful because you seem to wish to allow to die unseen and unheard the actions of dutiful officials who unearthed the machinations of the right-wing Hindu terrorists responsible for the Samjhauta Express blasts and the Malegaon blasts. It was Indian policemen, and Indian prosecutors who took up these issues; it was the famously toxic Indian media who carried these stories in their full, disgraceful versions, and revealed these plots to an angry nation. Not a Pakistani, not Pakistani media, not the ISI, no outsider; we. The 'Bagal me chhurri aur muh mein Ram Ram' lot, those who accuse Muslims. None of this occurs in my post, but I can understand your seeking to impose these tags in order to justify the latent prejudice and bigotry that guided the suggestions that we might have been guilty of what you have been thinking. The fact that the Indians involved in these investigations did not think of themselves as Hindus, or Muslims, or Sikhs, or Christians, or Buddhists is obviously one that sets your teeth on edge, and only that resentment of what you cannot achieve can explain the accusations of religious bigotry on our part or the hostility on your part that you display.



As a contrast to whatever I have stood for, and argued for, yes.

Shame on you, @Bratva. I had thought this to have been beneath you.



Read with little interest.

Your verbiage really deserves no particular attention.



LOL.

Would I dare to challenge these immutable truths that you have so patiently enunciated to the undeserving?

Good day.



My next lesson will be about how to straighten out tangled syntax. Try to pay attention.

@member.exe @khail007 @Bratva

See guys, I gold you. Piles and piles of gibberish with no real answers.



He will keep denying that India is the main sponsor of cross-border terrorism in the region. Facts are the real enemies of india. And their definition keeps changing from case to case for indians.

Even when you catch him with his pants down, he would write like 3000 lines to tell you it is some kind of vedic meditation that he was trying and nothing else.

So I say our PDF management should take a serious note and not allow him to post any heavily twisted and far from truth garbage here.

He strictly follows Indian logic which is an antonym to the word logic

 

[Hiptullha]

It was persuasive, not conclusive.

What's the conclusive evidence to suggest Yadav was a civilian kidnapped from Iran?

 

[coffee_cup]

What's the conclusive evidence to suggest Yadav was a civilian kidnapped from Iran?

Bro, same advice to you. Stop wasting your time with the brain dead zombie.

 

[khail007]

What's the conclusive evidence to suggest Yadav was a civilian kidnapped from Iran?

Sir, this retard intellectual has nothing conclusive only linguistic - he just express his wishes as a typical Indian in denial mode.

 

[Joe Shearer]

What's the conclusive evidence to suggest Yadav was a civilian kidnapped from Iran?

The wholly unlikely possibility that he should have been inside Pakistan. He doesn't speak the language, he doesn't look the part, there was no need, and there was every reason for the Pakistanis to 'find' him there; they couldn't very well admit he was taken out of Iran.

Yes the true (verbiage) made you more sick and you have no credibility while you put all your weight to protect Indian Terror Mata.
You don't have to laugh but to face palm on yourself.

I face palm quite a lot on PDF posts. Yours being most prominent. Meaningless, content-less bits of frustrated venom.

My syntax is tangled by design. Makes your head spin does it not?
As for your class, I am dropping it for something more mentally stimulating.

Some subject with lots of pictures in it, I presume. You will have difficulties with all others, including those where ineptitude results in making heads spin.

 

[khail007]

The wholly unlikely possibility that he should have been inside Pakistan. He doesn't speak the language, he doesn't look the part, there was no need, and there was every reason for the Pakistanis to 'find' him there; they couldn't very well admit he was taken out of Iran.

Blah blah blah ... your degenerated cerebral just again gone into the denial mode that the terrorist was also trained from your terror breeding grounds as spy. You forced me to the conclusions - think like human being and not like an Indian.

I face palm quite a lot on PDF posts. Yours being most prominent. Meaningless, content-less bits of frustrated venom.

While in front of mirror you do it on yourself it will be more convenient for you; your Terror Mata also got the same at OIC but seems shameless never learn.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Blah blah blah ... your degenerated cerebral just again gone into the denial mode that the terrorist was also trained from your terror breeding grounds as spy. You forced me to the conclusions - think like human being and not like an Indian.

As it happens, there is no record of the Indian Navy ever having got involved in intelligence work, or in sponsoring terror. Only James Bond, or Cdr. James Bond, RN, was a spy, and it is not unnatural that overheated minds will jump to the wrong conclusions. No doubt these are the conclusions forced on you.

While in front of mirror you do it on yourself it will be more convenient for you; your Terror Mata also got the same at OIC but seems shameless never learn.

That is the trouble with language-challenged enthusiasts chancing their hand at posting on line; they put words together and hope that it makes sense. What did that last passage mean? Do you yourself understand what it means?

 

[khail007]

As it happens, there is no record of the Indian Navy ever having got involved in intelligence work, or in sponsoring terror. Only James Bond, or Cdr. James Bond, RN, was a spy, and it is not unnatural that overheated minds will jump to the wrong conclusions. No doubt these are the conclusions forced on you.

So here is answer for your non worthy answer; that is the trouble with language-challenged enthusiast chancing your hand at posting on line; you put words together and hope that it makes sense. What did that mean? Just use your keyboard intellectual skills to satisfy your sick and tiny ego.

Do you yourself understand what it means?

I think you felt much pain in realising the truth - truth is always bitter and for intellectual Indian like you, OMG it is unbearable.
I also know that you could type for hours meaningless words/sentences as your previous career seems to be stenographer, but you are illustrated it to be 'intellectual'.

 

[HAIDER]

I advise the PAF Mess to be more environmental friendly and minimize the use of paper.

FBR still believe in " raseed" to claim tax break.

 

[Joe Shearer]

So here is answer for your non worthy answer; that is the trouble with language-challenged enthusiast chancing your hand at posting on line; you put words together and hope that it makes sense. What did that mean? Just use your keyboard intellectual skills to satisfy your sick and tiny ego.

LOL.

When you quote someone, it is usual to put his words in quotation marks. Since you have been reduced to reproducing my posts, having run out of thoughts and even words, do remember this. But what you said after doing that is the cream.

It is amusing to find that in your world, intellectual skills equate to a sick and tiny ego.

Nothing can illustrate more vividly the curious cultural values that think that intellect shows ego, a sick and tiny one at that. Nothing I could have written would be as blighting as your own confession of a perverted way of thinking. Thank you for the self-goal.

I think you felt much pain in realising the truth - truth is always bitter and for intellectual Indian like you, OMG it is unbearable.

Your words, not mine!

I also know that you could type for hours meaningless words/sentences as your previous career seems to be stenographer, but you are illustrated it to be 'intellectual'.

You aren't doing too badly, typing for hours, without the skills; while my posts, in your somewhat innovative English, illustrate this to be 'intellectual', yours 'illustrate' (sic) you to be grammar-challenged.

What next? Since you have run out of things to say and have fallen back on reproducing my posts, would you like to tell us all about your childhood and early youth? It would be better than 'illustrating' this, that and the other, and would also have the advantage of being original, not someone else's posts copied.

 

[khail007]

LOL.
When you quote someone, it is usual to put his words in quotation marks. Since you have been reduced to reproducing my posts, having run out of thoughts and even words, do remember this. But what you said after doing that is the cream.

It is amusing to find that in your world, intellectual skills equate to a sick and tiny ego.

Nothing can illustrate more vividly the curious cultural values that think that intellect shows ego, a sick and tiny one at that. Nothing I could have written would be as blighting as your own confession of a perverted way of thinking. Thank you for the self-goal.

You are a fool ... what you are preaching to others, yourself never done it. Improve your sick attitude.
I also know very well your culture values which are so vivid that you always try to prove you satans/butchers/terrorists as innocent, Indeed a great culture, 'Bugal main churee munh main ram ram'; that is the retard and sick attitude which you want to prove otherwise.

Your words, not mine!

But dedicated to only for a pseudo intellectual like you.

You aren't doing too badly, typing for hours, without the skills; while my posts, in your somewhat innovative English, illustrate this to be 'intellectual', yours 'illustrate' (sic) you to be grammar-challenged.

What next? Since you have run out of things to say and have fallen back on reproducing my posts, would you like to tell us all about your childhood and early youth? It would be better than 'illustrating' this, that and the other, and would also have the advantage of being original, not someone else's posts copied.

Sick intellectual, now you want to hide behind HINGLISH grammer?
So you mean what you are vomiting for hours are the valuable 'Golden Words'? I feel pity for your mental health.
You are producing so innovative and different posts that may be after your death will be compiled by the name 'Mental master batons of an Indian'.
Did you already shared your childhood at this forum?

 

[Joe Shearer]

You are a fool ... what you are preaching to others, yourself never done it. Improve your sick attitude.
I also know very well your culture values which are so vivid that you always try to prove you satans/butchers/terrorists as innocent, Indeed a great culture, 'Bugal main churee munh main ram ram'; that is the retard and sick attitude which you want to prove otherwise.



But dedicated to only for a pseudo intellectual like you.


Sick intellectual, now you want to hide behind HINGLISH grammer?
So you mean what you are vomiting for hours are the valuable 'Golden Words'? I feel pity for your mental health.
You are producing so innovative and different posts that may be after your death will be compiled by the name 'Mental master batons of an Indian'.
Did you already shared your childhood at this forum?

Aren't you happy you got so much free publicity in engaging in a discussion where all you have contributed is abuse?

Your master batons must already have left you physically happy.

 

[shaded]

And that is what happens when you dont pay your bills ...

 

[khail007]

Your master batons must already have left you physically happy.

'Tum Samajh tu gaye ho' - You got the message, message conveyed .

Aren't you happy you got so much free publicity in engaging in a discussion where all you have contributed is abuse?

IMO you are the abuse to humanity by putting so much efforts unsuccessfully trying to prove the sick Indian logic of protecting Hindu Zafarani Terrorism. Will advise you to refrain or else I consider you are also the same breed.