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IAF Formally Inducts BrahMos-1 Block-3 Into Service

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Brahmos will take some time to be delivered to IAF
given the LONG waiting list

If the need arises Prithvi and Shaurya too can do this job
 
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Check the 2 diff links that's I've posted .
I've seen that and what I said wasn't disagreeing with that. But I think I misunderstood what you were saying, I thought you were saying the same exact missiles used in the mobile-launchers could be taken out and fired from aircraft as the Brahmos-A which is clearly not the case.

What is true is the IAF is inducting two different versions of the same missile (the Brahmos-A which is the air-launched version of the Block III and Brahmos Block III ground-launched missile).

I am not disputing the IAF is inducting the Block III.

Just as the IN's Block IIIs will be both the naval (surface) version and the sub-launched versions. Both based on the same missile but with differences in the launch systems.

Brahmos will take some time to be delivered to IAF
given the LONG waiting list

Well this news is stating the Brahmos has formally been inducted into the IAF so I am assuming it has already been delivered in a unknown quantity. You are right about there being high demand for the missile right now so the IAF must have placed their orders a while back.
 
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taking the centre of the AB to the centre of the other AB

Pathankot to Sargodha.. 280km
Adampur to Sargodha 300 km
Halwara to Sargodha 310 km

Bhuj AFS to Masroor PAFB 320km
Naliya AFS to Masroor PAFB 270 km
Jamnagar AFS to Masroor 400km

Bhatinda AFS to Rafiqui PAFB 240km
SuratGarh AFS to Rafiqui 220km
Sirsa AFS to Rafiqui 290km


And these are all main airbases... not the forward bases.


Lets take aircraft speeds into account.. on average combat aircraft travel around 700 kmh.. that is their cruise speed on combat missions and not on afterburner or otherwise(which is not how actual missions occur) but for the sake of the point, this will suffice.

Aircraft will then take on average 25 minutes of flight time within each other.
If they go any faster(as they do).. you are looking at strikes coming in with as little as 15 minutes from take off to attack.

The Brahmos travels at an average of 3400 km/h.. that means from launch to impact it has 5 minutes to impact.. now why would the IAF not want that capability knowing what I just showed you.
Some others also
Awantipur to Sargodha -- 299 KM (approx.)
Srinagar to Chaklala 171 KM (approx.)
Awantipur to Chaklala 185 KM (approx.)
Kamra PAC to srinagar 223 km (approx.)
Kamra PAC to Awantipur 242 km (approx.)
Never thought our AFBs are so close o_O
 
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Some others also
Awantipur to Sargodha -- 299 KM (approx.)
Srinagar to Chaklala 171 KM (approx.)
Awantipur to Chaklala 185 KM (approx.)
Kamra PAC to srinagar 223 km (approx.)
Kamra PAC to Awantipur 242 km (approx.)
Never thought our AFBs are so close o_O

Which is also why the advantage of BVR weapons reduces.. There is little warning to be had in terms of sneaking in attacks...
Aircraft will have little time to use more than two missiles before they are in close range.
 
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If the Air war goes to mostly WVR my money is on su30mki with its hms r73 combo and tvc engines plus two pilots.

f16 will give a fight for sure and will bloody nose the flanker migs & mirages too.

but with 200 mki in service iaf can afford attrition losses more frequently than paf
 
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Abingdonboy said:
This is exactly what the Nirbhay is meant to do. The Bhramos is for time-critical HVTs.
Afaik Nirbhay is a sub-sonic cruise missile and it is meant to strike and kill and not return.
While Dr.APJ Abdul Kalam had suggested a reusable version of Brahmos,UCAV variant.
I don't think they sound similar.

@Dash
 
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Afaik Nirbhay is a sub-sonic cruise missile and it is meant to strike and kill and not return.
While Dr.APJ Abdul Kalam had suggested a reusable version of Brahmos,UCAV variant.
I don't think they sound similar.

@Dash

Neither Nirbhay nor Brahmos will be re-usable .

What APJ sir told was an idea ..... that's it ....... I don't think it's being worked on .
 
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Afaik Nirbhay is a sub-sonic cruise missile and it is meant to strike and kill and not return.
While Dr.APJ Abdul Kalam had suggested a reusable version of Brahmos,UCAV variant.
I don't think they sound similar.

@Dash
What I meant was the Nirbhay has the ability to loiter.

The ability to return is a capability that can be looked at once the offensive capabilities have been developed.
 
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In general, the surface-to-surface variants of the BrahMos have seen the most extensive testing. Its penetration capabilities had been impressively demonstrated in the past at sea when a single BrahMos cruise missile was able to effectively pierce the hull of a free-floating ship, destroying it entirely. That test, in 2010, rendered India the first country to have a maneuverable supersonic cruise missile. The deep penetration block-III variant expands this capability greatly, allowing the BrahMos to destroy reinforced targets.

Brahmos Block III has an advanced guidance and upgraded software, incorporating high manoeuvres at multiple points and steep dive from high altitude. The steep dive capability of the Block III enables it to hit targets hidden behind a mountain range. It will be deployed in Arunachal Pradesh. It can engage ground targets from an altitude as low as 10 meters for surgical strikes with out any collateral damage. It is capable of being launched from multiple platforms like submarines, ships, aircraft and land based Mobile Autonomous Launchers (MAL).
 
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Neither Nirbhay nor Brahmos will be re-usable .

What APJ sir told was an idea ..... that's it ....... I don't think it's being worked on .

The ability to return is a capability that can be looked at once the offensive capabilities have been developed.

Hypersonic reusable version that APJ Abdul Kalam was talking about is I think already under study
Work on BrahMos' hypersonic version to begin this year: Russian official | StratPost
 
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